• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:41
CEST 09:41
KST 16:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy1GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
https://www.facebook.com/GlacierBreezePortableAC.O https://www.facebook.com/OzoZen.Official/ BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2502 users

Idra and Sen to Code S - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
1601 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 81 Next
Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#201
On December 14 2011 18:23 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:22 Femari wrote:
Wait who was the highest non-Code S player in Providence who doesn't have a Code S spot now?


Huk, then Haypro, and then Idra.

And I don't get the Sen thing. Why?

Then I have no clue what's going on.

If IdrA was the second highest non Code S player at the time of the tournament that doesn't have a Code S spot now then it'd be obvious something is going on with Naniwa.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#202
On December 14 2011 18:23 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:21 baoluvboa wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:20 naux wrote:
why people getting so mad GSL players get into pool play at MLG but nobody says anything but when a player of idras cailber and his popularity goes into GSL code S people start to complaining seriously/?


Because they would have made pool play anyway. If anything one can make the argument that the seeding for pool play in MLG this year was ridiculous and undeserving for some players. That is why they are changing it for this coming year.


are you serious? they wouldve made it into pool play anyway? what a joke of a statement. yeah but u dontk now what there changing exactly its mostly gonna have the same concept anyways


How is it a joke statement when it is a fact that most Koreans make it out of pool plays anyway, unless they eliminate each others? With the exception of Alicia being eliminated by Tod and possibly a few others?

Look at the results.
IMBAkorean
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada835 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#203
well idra was in code-s before he left to go back to the usa, so giving him a spot now that some one dropped out makes sense. However giving Sen code-s seems kinda shady, i know sen is pretty good, but all the koreans have to go through code-a, up and downs with the same qualifications as sen.
RATDOTO
MightyDrKiller
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany82 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#204
It seems that people forgot that Idra has already been Code S class, he had a spot and gave it up. Now he gets it back.
More GG More Skill
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#205
If you're going to give away Code S spots due to DQ, give them to highest ranking GSL players who aren't in Code S or give Naniwa's spot to the highest ranking Providence player who isn't in Code S who would be Huk/Haypro. Not Idra and Sen.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Gin-san
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia92 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#206
I'm really not a Naniwa fanboy, I actually can't stand him often times, but if GOM really removed him just to get Idra in for higher viewer numbers then I lost all respect for them and I hope Kespa will bleed Gom down...
Fulltime Troll brought to you by R1CH
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#207
On December 14 2011 18:23 Ace.Xile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:22 AxionSteel wrote:
Absolutely pathetic. What a joke.



HEY LOOK! it's like someones reacting like the world is ending again. Good lord.

No, he's not at all. It is pathetic actually, if you think for one second.

Code B, Code A, Koreans in general have been busting their ass off to get to Code S, think about that.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#208
On December 14 2011 18:23 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:22 Femari wrote:
Wait who was the highest non-Code S player in Providence who doesn't have a Code S spot now?


DRG

DRG does have a Code S spot.

Jesus that's 3 different people I've had to correct regarding players current GSL rank.

Educate yourselves with liquipedia people. The information is easy to find and accessible.
babo213
Profile Joined January 2011
United States266 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#209
On December 14 2011 18:23 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:21 babo213 wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:20 raf3776 wrote:
if naniwa got removed and SEN of all the programers (i mean sens amazing but more deserving players) then GOM is just going a little insane with power..


Who is more deserving than Sen?

How about every fucking player in Code B/A that keeps trying hard every god damn season?

Edit: I'm glad for Idra and Sen, but they should have earned their way into the tournament through a wild-card tourney of sorts.


I'd say Sen is better than a lot of the Code B players and some A for sure
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#210
Giving out Code A/Code S spots to foreigners pays the bills. Let's not kid ourselves.

Further, Idra left his Code S spot voluntarily previously and even GOM has said they'd love to have Idra back. You don't make the "Idra has died" video without liking what he brings and having him around.

Lastly, given his MLG Orlando & Providence placings, it also makes logical sense to invite him as well. They need to fill someone in with someone missing, and the format for filling the other spots is already set.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#211
On December 14 2011 18:09 baoluvboa wrote:
I hope it was Naniwa. Set a precedent for some professionalism in Korean leagues the way they want it.


Kicking a player who didn't break any rules out of your league does not set a precedent for professionalism at all.

Neither do these arbitrary invites though. I'm curious what Idra and Sen have over other foreigners?
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
December 14 2011 09:24 GMT
#212
I don't like this. It was his choice to leave GSL in the first place and I doubt he could compete with code S level players now.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#213
On December 14 2011 18:24 Fionn wrote:
If you're going to give away Code S spots due to DQ, give them to highest ranking GSL players who aren't in Code S or give Naniwa's spot to the highest ranking Providence player who isn't in Code S who would be Huk/Haypro. Not Idra and Sen.


It would be DRG if i'm not mistaken
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#214
On December 14 2011 18:21 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:20 naux wrote:
why people getting so mad GSL players get into pool play at MLG but nobody says anything but when a player of idras cailber and his popularity goes into GSL code S people start to complaining seriously/?

Because Koreans take the spots of like...Incontrol. In this case GOM is screwing Koreans that have been busting their ass to attain Code S by just inviting people because their foreigners, and there are plenty of people in Code A that are better and deserve the spot more than Idra.


idra = ratings if i was mr chae i would done the exactly same thing but earlier. if koreans were busting there asses to attain code s they wouldve made it already
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#215
IU is a korean singer that did player announcemnets for the earlier seasons

Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#216
WTF IS GOING ON GOM!!!

What is up with these automatic "WELCOME TO CODE S!" Handouts?!?!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
nugget-92
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia83 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#217
If Naniwa got removed I think I will have infinitely less motivation to watch GSL.

In my mind the GSL has always been a fair tournament that has never made huge blunders but if Naniwa is removed then it is a huge mistake in my eyes.
Well, the tomato's an anomaly. So successful with the ketchup and the sauce, but you can't find a good one.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:27:45
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#218
This definitely seems like the wrong move by GOM, especially if Naniwa is removed. If you want to remove players from your tournament for being unprofessional, you shouldn't arbitrarily give away the spot they earned. Idra getting a shot at the up & downs was more than enough - suddenly getting Code S without doing anything more to earn it is ridiculous.

It's even worse for Sen; he was never in Code S. There's no way to pretend he earned that slot =/ Why no wildcard tournament GOM?
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#219
On December 14 2011 18:24 IMBAkorean wrote:
well idra was in code-s before he left to go back to the usa, so giving him a spot now that some one dropped out makes sense. However giving Sen code-s seems kinda shady, i know sen is pretty good, but all the koreans have to go through code-a, up and downs with the same qualifications as sen.


That's silly.

Idra LEFT the GSL. Yes, it was on good terms, but he made the choice to focus in America. He should have to qualify.

Does this mean we should give Rain a spot back in Code S, too? What about LiveForever? He had to leave due to military. In two years when he returns, should we give him a handout?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#220
On December 14 2011 18:24 Gin-san wrote:
I'm really not a Naniwa fanboy, I actually can't stand him often times, but if GOM really removed him just to get Idra in for higher viewer numbers then I lost all respect for them and I hope Kespa will bleed Gom down...

gom didn't remove naniwa to get idra in for the number, gom removed naniwa because he dicked around in a match.

If it was Kespa instead of GOM, naniwa would have been BANNED from esport for life
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 81 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 2020
firebathero 541
Larva 59
Killer 21
Icarus 12
Bale 12
NotJumperer 11
Dota 2
XcaliburYe157
NeuroSwarm106
League of Legends
JimRising 629
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1197
Stewie2K757
m0e_tv405
shoxiejesuss47
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King79
Other Games
summit1g10580
Liquid`RaSZi477
ceh9425
C9.Mang0387
Nina24
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL12430
Other Games
gamesdonequick820
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH319
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1347
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
2h 19m
CranKy Ducklings
16h 19m
WardiTV Team League
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.