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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
December 13 2011 18:41 GMT
#101
I think its no problem to invite girls to teams. Even if there not GM. They just need something to push them to get better, and having a pro team is exactly this!
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
December 13 2011 18:42 GMT
#102
Lol is she really training with Naama Satiini etc ?
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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
December 13 2011 18:42 GMT
#103
haha god i remember her euro channel... fun times!

best of luck madde
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:45:09
December 13 2011 18:43 GMT
#104
On December 14 2011 02:45 Sated wrote:
Sounds like she's been signed on a gender basis rather than a skill basis. Sad times.

EDIT:

More positively, for all I know she has a lot of potential and will get better in a team environment. So good luck to her and the team.

I'd just like to point out that, in UK people are seemingly signed because they are from UK (ie there are better players from other countries unsigned). I don't see anyone whining about that ._.? Neither of those are weird, to be one of the best in a group of people (be it nationality or gender) will give you more chances than if you're better than those individuals but in a group where more people and better people exist. That's just how shit works.

Edit: Another great example is Korea, I don't doubt by a second that there are unsigned players there that are way better than some of the signed international players with a decent salary.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
December 13 2011 18:45 GMT
#105
Ooooh here we go again. Good for her and definitely good for the team but yeah, special treatment etcetc. TT
@nowSimon
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:49:27
December 13 2011 18:47 GMT
#106
On December 14 2011 03:41 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:10 DeathAngel[ro] wrote:
lol , in sc2 there are female cups , that are also promoted , streamed .. media coverage etc.
seems smart for our team to have a good girl in the team also

since we couldn't find a GM girl (I don't know any in EU server) , we took one master division girl ..
don't get why some bronze guys comentate :D

it has nothing to do with sexism .. if you are a male you get a male competition

is the same for boxing , football and other sports that have huge male competitions.. and some small ones for females where ppl can still look at some 2 chicks boxing eachother

but you will not see a female boxer vs a male boxer .. the male will crush her..
and don't tell me that I chosed a wrong example because it has to do with men body having more strength etc. , cause it's the same for CHESS , where are also women competitions , and male ones

so if there is a sc2 female tournament , Maddelisk can represent esahara while in some big tournament , the top squad will do it..

and being masters as girl , is a pretty good ranking imo , considering the scene..

The difference between this and boxing is that female SC2 players don't have to contest with their genetic make-up making them less able as physical athletes. SC2 has a level playing field gender-wise, there's no competitive reason for a split to exist.


As he said, there are female sc2 tournaments that get coverage, so its good business having a player in your team that can play in said tournaments. Them signing a female player has nothing to do with "level playing field gender-wise".
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
December 13 2011 18:47 GMT
#107
She's masters and phd math student so she's better at sc2 and smarter than most people in this thread

If you've only got negative things to say why don't you go to reddit
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:51:01
December 13 2011 18:48 GMT
#108
blonde girl in masters... pretty sure i cant believe that for a second haha. sorry!

will give you a chance and check the stream sometime tho!


and lol @ all the teams recruiting 1 girl...

ps. not hating, props for girls playin and gettin good/etc. props
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:51:43
December 13 2011 18:48 GMT
#109
A team I've never heard of signed a player who, if she was a man, would have a remarkably unimpressive record.

I know the whole "mascot" idea got floated around earlier, but if this is their way of earning press, then it's not entriely untrue...

Just sayin'

Oh yeah, she's masters... I forget, how many people rate higher than a low masters? Must be very, very few of them or else this wouldn't be a big deal. In fairness, she could probably beat me in SC2... but then again, I don't claim to be a "pro" and play on a "pro team".

Fuck, I don't know why I'm getting more and more phased by this. It's just striking all the wrong chords.
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 13 2011 18:51 GMT
#110
Well she's certainly a looker. That pic is one veil short of looking like a wedding photo.
Logic is Overrated
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 13 2011 18:52 GMT
#111
Seriously, how have people not heard of eSahara?

Naama just made Ro8 at Dreamhack. They just picked up Check.

Do people just not pay attention?
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cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
December 13 2011 18:53 GMT
#112
I hope she does well!

Good Luck!!
Play Terran
Turbogangsta
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia319 Posts
December 13 2011 19:04 GMT
#113
dayum shes fine
Esports is killing Esports.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
December 13 2011 20:00 GMT
#114
Kinda funny I don't think anyone would care that much about the recruit's record/league etc. if it was a guy

"Huh some team signed some low masters player. Whatever, maybe they see something in him I don't. Best of luck I suppose."

"Oh my god this team only signed this player because she's a girl, she has an awful record she must be terrible, this is such blatant reverse discrimination, etc"

It's just newsworthy because there aren't many female progamers, so it's interesting to see them. End of story. I would be equally as interested in a story about a team that signed a black progamer even though there's no gender division there.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 13 2011 20:04 GMT
#115
On December 14 2011 05:00 jubil wrote:
Kinda funny I don't think anyone would care that much about the recruit's record/league etc. if it was a guy

"Huh some team signed some low masters player. Whatever, maybe they see something in him I don't. Best of luck I suppose."

"Oh my god this team only signed this player because she's a girl, she has an awful record she must be terrible, this is such blatant reverse discrimination, etc"

It's just newsworthy because there aren't many female progamers, so it's interesting to see them. End of story. I would be equally as interested in a story about a team that signed a black progamer even though there's no gender division there.


I think some of the drama comes from "We were looking for a female player, after few months speaking with different girls" on the second line of the thread, and as i said twice earlier, the way they go way over the top promoting it, with the thread title reading as "eSahara adds girl player" on the teamliquid thread list.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 13 2011 20:07 GMT
#116
Waiting for White-Ra's face to be put on her picture.

And would any team ever live down announcing a new player with a picture of a guy apparently topless next to some pretty flowers?

Other than the stupid picture, its awesome to see females getting picked up by teams. Atleast they will have the opportunity to take the game seriously, congrats MaddieLisk I hope you do fantastic
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
December 13 2011 20:22 GMT
#117
Good luck! Hope you do well with the new team!
Life is Good.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 13 2011 20:27 GMT
#118
On December 14 2011 01:29 RedBlargh wrote:
Didn't think getting team mascots would become a trend.

User was temp banned for this post.


That is really rude, they said she is masters and has been practicing with the team...
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 20:41:11
December 13 2011 20:30 GMT
#119
WAIT WAIT WAIT

Ph. D. in mathematics ? Play sc2 seriously ? Swedish ? COME ON MARRY ME MADDE YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO !


Slightly more on topic : what is her Ph.D about ?


Edit : apparently she works with graph and combinatorial things. Which I hate both. Sad panda there.
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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 20:37:20
December 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#120
Better looking than me, smarter than me, and better at starcraft than me. I'm so in love right now. <3<3<3
:)
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