EPTLgN.desRow to Korea! - Page 7
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
EDIT: To elaborate more seriously, I have a feeling whomever is in charge of team LgN is seriously out of touch with the community. I think from a swift glance, seeing Desrow, a streamer who gets what, maybe 1k viewers at a time, and is in the highest league of sc2, one could assume he is actually really good. Furthermore, from a quick glance at the community, one could suppose that if you send someone to Korea, they become an insta-star. Neither of these assumptions are correct however - the only foreigners who have gone to Korea and met with legitimate success were people who already had strong results in foreign tourneys (Desrow has none). He will not do well in Korea, he will spend time on the Korean mid masters ladder, and then he will come home, no one but his stream viewers will notice the change or the trip and LgN will be several thousand dollars shorter. This all said, I hope he proves me wrong and takes off and becomes a foreigner hope. I just can't see someone whom I've only heard of because he beat Incontrol and Idra with 4gates becoming something huge or worthy of a ticket to Korea. Sorry. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 13 2011 01:05 tirentu wrote: Why are there multiple single/single-digit post users in this thread, and every desRow thread, encouraging him and advertising his stream? Has nobody looked into this yet?  You're seriously a giant dick for posting this for basically no reason. Haven't you noticed that nearly every streamer has countless fans that mostly come out to support them? Look at the top left of the page. The vast majority of TL users aren't even logged in most of the time, and announcements about their favorite players are a great reason for them to come in and show support. Good luck desRow. I admire your passion and dedication, and while I might not be appreciative of every trait about you, I hope you have a great time in Korea and improve a lot. On December 13 2011 01:43 Chill wrote: What a great opportunity for Desrow and a stupid move by LgN. I think Starcraft teams don't understand the purpose of an investment. Edit: Desrow has a lot of fans because of his personality, not his skill level. By sending him to Korea you are isolating the majority of viewers from his stream. He obviously won't make it into Code A. This move just doesn't make sense. I hope Desrow views this as a vacation and doesn't train too hard in Korea. I have to humbly disagree. desRow is paying the majority of this on his own, with support from Maxfrag (with little/no support from Legion). Korea server practice is often more interesting and attractive to stream viewers, and accompanied with his (hopefully) increased skill level will definitely draw attention. | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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IMCHINA
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On December 13 2011 01:16 eYeball wrote: If someone could figure out the IP of all of them we could perhaps find a match? xD im one of those who just signed to say congratulations to him! i've been scrolling the forums for a long time but never made an account until now. | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:18 tyler233 wrote: At all the haters talking about low thread post accounts. I know that this is only like my 5th post now, because I don't come here for fun to communicate with others or troll or whatever, but I can tell you that I only came here to support Desrow because I watch his stream on a regular basis. Maybe that is a similar situation for many other people. So you can take it as him trying to boost his own success, but I see it as him expanding many people's boundaries in e-sports by making them familiar with sites such as this or Reddit. GL in Korea Desrow! just to clarify, people who are not fond of desrow =/= haters pro-gaming is revolved around performance, the average reaction to such a news is very much correlated to the performance of the player. just remember for example a lot of people made fun of drewbie when he went to korea and like everyone considers him a better player than desrow and i haven't even seen one bashing or flaming post in this topic, people are just saying he's not up to the challenge and that is an objective observation;) people don't necessarily need to be sweethearts or dickheads | ||
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Darigaz(L)
United States106 Posts
 I am glad that you have made your dream come true. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:26 Pokebunny wrote: I have to humbly disagree. desRow is paying the majority of this on his own, with support from Maxfrag (with little/no support from Legion). Korea server practice is often more interesting and attractive to stream viewers, and accompanied with his (hopefully) increased skill level will definitely draw attention. I disagree, as a stream viewer I prefer NA play to KR - on NA I know who must of they players they hit are etc etc, whereas on Kor it's by enlarge some Hangul named guy. Not to mention I doubt desrow will get high enough on kr ladder to hit any big names. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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RuzaSK
Slovakia117 Posts
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zachychan18
Scotland1 Post
On December 13 2011 01:45 msjakofsky wrote: yeah i watched him stream few times and his macro slips literally every game (1000-2000 rescources at not even close to max), he doesn't use stargate play at all, etc, his forcefields are pretty bad. he's not bad overall but too many obvious flaws that need fixing before even dreaming about code a;) Hmm ok first dont post things about people when ur facts r wrong. u probably watch his stream 3 months ago when yes his resource's did reach high levels and in fact he has been using stargate frequently beating meny top zergs with a phenox zelot play in general he has been do very well on the ladder as u can see not low GM http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/443514/VTdesRow and if u just watch his stream for 10mins u will see that his forcefields r sick resulting in him crushing opponents. and now if he spends 3 months in Korea he is only going to get better ! | ||
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:28 msjakofsky wrote: just to clarify, people who are not fond of desrow =/= haters pro-gaming is revolved around performance, the average reaction to such a news is very much correlated to the performance of the player. just remember for example a lot of people made fun of drewbie when he went to korea and like everyone considers him a better player than desrow and i haven't even seen one bashing or flaming post in this topic, people are just saying he's not up to the challenge and that is an objective observation;) people don't necessarily need to be sweethearts or dickheads Maybe people need to start reading then. If you haven't noticed, he said he is going to korea to IMPROVE. His aim is to be in code A, notice how different that is from saying "I will be in code A next season" ? Everybody with big ambitions knows you need to have a semi-reachable goal, and Code A for Desrow is definitely reachable with enough practice and dedication. Its kind of frustrating to read posts like this, the guy is so dedicated to the game and tries hard to improve himself but then people come and go..... well you're no Michael Jordan, might as well not even try. He's paying for most of the trip himself in order to improve, don't see why people are being so pessimistic about it. Its his money. | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:34 zachychan18 wrote: Hmm ok first dont post things about people when ur facts r wrong. u probably watch his stream 3 months ago when yes his resource's did reach high levels and in fact he has been using stargate frequently beating meny top zergs with a phenox zelot play in general he has been do very well on the ladder as u can see not low GM http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/443514/VTdesRow and if u just watch his stream for 10mins u will see that his forcefields r sick resulting in him crushing opponents. and now if he spends 3 months in Korea he is only going to get better ! i think it was like 1 monts ago. anyways i didn't say he's not GM. and i do remember his rescource management being fairly bad- could have been a bad day. still it wasn't nearly good enough for a pro player | ||
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:26 Pokebunny wrote: You're seriously a giant dick for posting this for basically no reason. Haven't you noticed that nearly every streamer has countless fans that mostly come out to support them? Look at the top left of the page. The vast majority of TL users aren't even logged in most of the time, and announcements about their favorite players are a great reason for them to come in and show support. Yeah, I am a giant dick, but that's kind of irrelevant. I'm used to that for people like Destiny, which I'm fine with. I see a lot of his fans on a regular basis. I'm just far more suspicious when it's desRow. I'm happy for more TL users, I'm not so happy when said TL users only sign up to post a single one-liner. | ||
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grimmjowxbcx
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:37 sekritzzz wrote: Maybe people need to start reading then. If you haven't noticed, he said he is going to korea to IMPROVE. His aim is to be in code A, notice how different that is from saying "I will be in code A next season" ? Everybody with big ambitions knows you need to have a semi-reachable goal, and Code A for Desrow is definitely reachable with enough practice and dedication. Its kind of frustrating to read posts like this, the guy is so dedicated to the game and tries hard to improve himself but then people come and go..... well you're no Michael Jordan, might as well not even try. He's paying for most of the trip himself in order to improve, don't see why people are being so pessimistic about it. Its his money. people will have an opinion, you kinda have to deal with that if you make posts like that here. and noone accused him of anything. you don't have to make excuses for him... like 1000 posters here shit on stephano for no apparent reason, guess what happens if desrow goes to korea;) you really don't need to complain, it was all civilized. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:38 tirentu wrote: Yeah, I am a giant dick, but that's kind of irrelevant. I'm used to that for people like Destiny, which I'm fine with. I see a lot of his fans on a regular basis. I'm just far more suspicious when it's desRow. I'm happy for more TL users, I'm not so happy when said TL users only sign up to post a single one-liner. Detective tirentu, if you haven't noticed Nazgul posted in his previous thread and Chill posted in this one. I'm pretty certain they have already done IP checks and would of banned him if he was doing the self-promoting himself. Not to mention, he's been streaming for the past 2-4hours when this thread was posted. Kind of hard to make multiple accounts and play at the same time...... | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On December 13 2011 02:26 Pokebunny wrote: I have to humbly disagree. desRow is paying the majority of this on his own, with support from Maxfrag (with little/no support from Legion). Korea server practice is often more interesting and attractive to stream viewers, and accompanied with his (hopefully) increased skill level will definitely draw attention. It won't be interesting to stream viewers unless Desrow can get high enough on the KR ladder to actually hit known Koreans. Otherwise, he'll just be losing to no-names that people don't care about at all, even if those no-names would be able to beat most NA "pros." His skill level will undoubtedly increase, but to be honest he hasn't really shown any promise even in NA. All the other notable guys to head over to Korea were already big deals in their home regions. Desrow is no Naniwa or Sase. Either way this is ultimately good for Desrow even if it's a silly move on his team's part. Sidenote: Desrow will be shockingly large for most Koreans.  | ||
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