• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:01
CEST 01:01
KST 08:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy1GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1551 users

Complexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 17

Forum Index > SC2 General
1142 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 58 Next
Please make sure to read the statement from Naniwa that is linked in the full article before commenting.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 08 2011 21:51 GMT
#321
On December 09 2011 06:50 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:49 Corvi wrote:
am i blind or is that team not even sponsored? at least i cant find anything on their website. some rich guy behind this?


Are you serious, go to complexitygaming.com

All their sponsors are right at the top.

I think he's talking about Quantic, which actually makes sense.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
December 08 2011 21:52 GMT
#322
On December 09 2011 06:49 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:47 Pippi wrote:
Well, it's a pure NA team now! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/CompLexity.
And who are they going to pick up now? I don't see any top player joining coL atm, maybe some mouz player. Any top EG player isn't buyable . And Liquid players seems to be so loyal to their team.


I hope they do not pick up a player from mouz, liquid, EG or any other big teams. I would appreciate it much more if teams were looking for new talent and developing that instead of buying established players.


But they stated: " We will be seeking another top contender to fill his spot in the near future. " And I think they need an established player right now, because they don't have any consistent top player atm (according to liquidpedia).
Toast and coffe
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37069 Posts
December 08 2011 21:52 GMT
#323
Wow that was quick....

Bad news for Complexity losing such a talented player but....

AWESOME FOR QUANTIC!! Their roster is getting scarier now..... GL Nani!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
December 08 2011 21:52 GMT
#324
If we're to go by Naniwa's statement he's simply following his ambition in choosing a team that's focusing at competition in Korea and offers the to him perfect perfect practice partner. It looks like he discussed it with coL and agreed with them that they don't share the same vision. It's just the "...not share complexity's core values" part of coL's statement that makes it look like a grudge, which is probably what it's not.
xyzåäö
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#325
On December 09 2011 06:50 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:50 Mordiford wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:49 Corvi wrote:
am i blind or is that team not even sponsored? at least i cant find anything on their website. some rich guy behind this?


Are you serious, go to complexitygaming.com

All their sponsors are right at the top.

He's talking about Quantic.


Woops, that makes more sense. I was wondering how someone could miss Complexity's sponsors when they're pretty much all over their website.

Quantic has suddenly seemed to have this huge surge of cash to throw around at players.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 21:54:35
December 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#326
On December 09 2011 06:49 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:46 Klondikebar wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:43 farvacola wrote:
Quite frankly, Jason Lake's statement makes coL look petty, Naniwa hwaiting!



It definitely sheds some light on why Stephano just walked away from the team.


Really?... The situation with stephano was in now way col fault.

Jason is a great guy, don't shit on him for no reason



Did you read what he said on reddit?

"We're sending TriMaster to Korea any week now and Johan is well aware of that. I'm not going to get into a public argument and wish him the very best but this was a one way decision. His contract was being sold (to Quantic or someone else) whether he approved or not."

Which translates to: I don't want to say anything bad, but I'm going to proceed to say that we don't care what our players want. Or he was STRONGLY implying that Naniwa had pissed off the team. Either way, he was getting into a public argument in the very statement where he said he didn't want to. And terse little laws like "whether he approved or not" imply a management style of which I don't approve.

He really should have just kept his mouth shut there. Or at least not contradicted himself within two sentences.
#2throwed
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#327
On December 09 2011 06:52 Pippi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:49 Sandermatt wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:47 Pippi wrote:
Well, it's a pure NA team now! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/CompLexity.
And who are they going to pick up now? I don't see any top player joining coL atm, maybe some mouz player. Any top EG player isn't buyable . And Liquid players seems to be so loyal to their team.


I hope they do not pick up a player from mouz, liquid, EG or any other big teams. I would appreciate it much more if teams were looking for new talent and developing that instead of buying established players.


But they stated: " We will be seeking another top contender to fill his spot in the near future. " And I think they need an established player right now, because they don't have any consistent top player atm (according to liquidpedia).


Some talented koreans don't have a team right now.

If we estimate that nani salary was quite good, they could maybe even pick 2 new players
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
December 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#328
On December 09 2011 06:51 werynais wrote:
Hnnng, sad to see.

I hope he still has some good training partners and doesn't have to play with the Quanitc guys.


There is nothing to be sad about imho, Naniwa is happy switching, coL is happy getting some money out of him and Quantic can boost its roster by a huge amount =)
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#329
On December 09 2011 06:50 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:49 Corvi wrote:
am i blind or is that team not even sponsored? at least i cant find anything on their website. some rich guy behind this?


Go to complexitygaming.com

All their sponsors are right at the top.


i think he meant quantic?
banelings
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
December 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#330
why has noone seen this coming? i would have thought everyone has seen it coming, after the fact of nani bm'ing so hard at MLG and putting coL in a very awkward position
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#331
serious lol at the concept of this in any way shape or form being the fault of compelxity and not naniwa given dude's history of BM and the god awful way he presented himself at mlg... he won what....4 or 5 games and got 2nd place? dude will flop in code s, and complexity knows this. not worth keeping around for the bad pr. never thought id see a foreigner get booed down in favor of a korean at any mlg event. thats how bad it is.
Waste
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden84 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#332
THIS IS NICE QUANTIC <3 NANIWA <3 :D
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#333
Best of luck to all of the parties involved. I know Nani has a bad reputation in terms of his personality but he really has made an effort to change this year. If you actually read his statement it just seems like he wanted to team up with Sase and a team that has more presence in Korea than just him. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#334
Naniwa bmed IMNestea.
IM parted way with Quantic.
Quantic purchased Naniwa.

Now it's all clear.
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#335
i didn't see that coming, but i could see that naniwa doesnt share the same values and goals as complexity aims for
complexity is probably looking for more people like mike ross and gootecks
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#336
On December 09 2011 06:50 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:49 Corvi wrote:
am i blind or is that team not even sponsored? at least i cant find anything on their website. some rich guy behind this?


Go to complexitygaming.com

All their sponsors are right at the top.



arent we talking about quantic here? oO
at least i am ^^
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 08 2011 21:54 GMT
#337
The really funny thing is that Quantic badmouthed Naniwa a bit after Naniwa BMed NesTea at Providence, hahaha.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
December 08 2011 21:55 GMT
#338
On December 09 2011 06:48 StarcraftNerd1547 wrote:
Well... this was unexpected, i guess after reading NaNiWa:s ststement he wanted friends which were easier to communicate with. I still wonder though why NaNiWa transfered to CoL in the firstplace if that was the case.
Well GL to all the parties involved.
The owner of QxG must have alot of money.

To quote the man himself:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267130&currentpage=14#264
SaSe fan club manager
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 21:58:45
December 08 2011 21:55 GMT
#339
This is awesome news! The two best swedish toss-players on the same team in Korea practising together will be great!

EDIT: And can people please stop trying to create drama over every singe player tranfer? At least read the full article first!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 08 2011 21:55 GMT
#340
I'd imagine Naniwa didn't want to do a lot of community outreach and PR stuff, something complexity probably wants to grow more seeing as their big rivals EG are the kings of 'outside the game' content creation. Naniwa probably wants to be left alone to train and only train and that was a problem for coL. Of course, pure speculation but it seems reasonable.

Anyway, I love Naniwa so gl to wherever he goes in the future.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 58 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 134
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 644
GuemChi 250
hero 237
Rush 177
Dota 2
monkeys_forever317
capcasts172
League of Legends
JimRising 397
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1185
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0276
Mew2King92
AZ_Axe17
Other Games
summit1g17554
hungrybox346
ROOTCatZ94
ViBE59
ZombieGrub57
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick156
BasetradeTV123
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 27
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21304
League of Legends
• Doublelift3608
Other Games
• imaqtpie1226
• Scarra557
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h
The PondCast
11h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 1h
WardiTV Team League
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
OSC
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.