• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:19
CEST 17:19
KST 00:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!8Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)72Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? BW General Discussion screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4044 users

Complexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 16

Forum Index > SC2 General
1142 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 58 Next
Please make sure to read the statement from Naniwa that is linked in the full article before commenting.
prOpVikingBB2
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden273 Posts
December 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#301
Well... this was unexpected, i guess after reading NaNiWa:s ststement he wanted friends which were easier to communicate with. I still wonder though why NaNiWa transfered to CoL in the firstplace if that was the case.
Well GL to all the parties involved.
The owner of QxG must have alot of money.
I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger, then it hit me.
Brainfart
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany91 Posts
December 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#302
On December 09 2011 06:39 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:36 BijuuSW wrote:
I hope to god people actually read Nani's statement T_T


this.


Why dont you read Jason Lake's reddit post first.


Reading this does not free you from reading Naniwas statement as well.. this post came up way later. You always have to take both sides into account to form an oppinion that should be taken serious. Don´t know what you try to accomplish..
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#303
am i blind or is that team not even sponsored? at least i cant find anything on their website. some rich guy behind this?
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#304
On December 09 2011 06:47 Pippi wrote:
Well, it's a pure NA team now! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/CompLexity.
And who are they going to pick up now? I don't see any top player joining coL atm, maybe some mouz player. Any top EG player isn't buyable . And Liquid players seems to be so loyal to their team.


I hope they do not pick up a player from mouz, liquid, EG or any other big teams. I would appreciate it much more if teams were looking for new talent and developing that instead of buying established players.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#305
On December 09 2011 06:47 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:44 Nadarath wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:42 Mordiford wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:36 Nadarath wrote:
I find it seriously annoying that almost none poster from at least 6 pages of posts did not read Naniwa statement.
People are so eager to judge not even bothering to find out anything about the topic.
To be honest i am really happy for Naniwa - he is one of the most focused on his goals guy in SC2. Quantic with open approach to players will be perfect for him. Especially that they want to support players in Korea.

As for Jason Lake statement - in my eyes(aka my personal opinion) - he is one of those guys who will twist words enough that things will look like he is the only good guy in whole world. Never been a big fan of complexity. Im not into this whole _false core values_ . Also complexity is to be honest mediocre team with decent players but no real top of the top. So i think whole change will go only better for Naniwa.

Naniwa fighting!



There is no possible word twisting I see as possible in Jason Lake's statement, unless you think he's straight up lying. Either TriMaster would not be going to Korea or Naniwa would not have been aware of it, neither of these would be "twisting words", it's either true or false.

Lake's statement considers, this is kind of disappointing on Naniwa's part. Apparently Dignitas wasn't keen on renewing his contract and Complexity sells it after a short duration, doesn't seem like the easiest guy to have on a team.


Forgive me - I might used bad wording. What I ment is whole situation. He is very good at doing PR. They always try to bring situation in favor of complexity. Which is understandable - You want your brand/team to look as good as it can.

well ofc...EG does the same thing (but worse IMO) and that's why alot of people don't like them now.

Anyway, don't really see drama here. Naniwa wanted people to stay and practice with in Korea, and CoL wasn't going to give him that.


Once again, what makes you think coL wasn't going to give him that? They were giving him that so far. There is no statement saying, "Naniwa wasn't fine with being pulled out of Korea" or from Naniwa saying, "They wanted to pull me out of Korea".
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#306
Well, that was quick. I thought coL will keep Nani for awhile.

I'm expecting coL will pickup a big player soon, but I have no idea who.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#307
On December 09 2011 06:43 ShineOnYou wrote:
wow douchy move by col, so they are basically saying we dont want him cause the kid is a bit awkward on stage...My respect for col has decreased :L

User was warned for this post

When did they ever say this? Reading comprehension is a good skil toi have
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#308
Complexity seems very very strict in terms of player policies and what not. Good for them, and I hope Nani likes Quantic, it seems it would suit him better.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#309
On December 09 2011 06:46 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:43 farvacola wrote:
Quite frankly, Jason Lake's statement makes coL look petty, Naniwa hwaiting!



It definitely sheds some light on why Stephano just walked away from the team.


Really?... The situation with stephano was in now way col fault.

Jason is a great guy, don't shit on him for no reason
Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#310
cause naniwa seems like he flaps his trap a little bit too much, probly pissed off some management and no amount of victories can protect form pissed off investors or managers
When Keepin It Real Goes Wrong
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#311
On December 09 2011 06:48 Brainfart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:39 ptbl wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:36 BijuuSW wrote:
I hope to god people actually read Nani's statement T_T


this.


Why dont you read Jason Lake's reddit post first.


Reading this does not free you from reading Naniwas statement as well.. this post came up way later. You always have to take both sides into account to form an oppinion that should be taken serious. Don´t know what you try to accomplish..

Except this newer post shows that naniwa was lying or at the least not telling the whole truth.
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#312
complextiy just got a whole lot worse there only good play was nani
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 21:51:41
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#313
On December 09 2011 06:49 Corvi wrote:
am i blind or is that team not even sponsored? at least i cant find anything on their website. some rich guy behind this?


Go to complexitygaming.com

All their sponsors are right at the top.
give.ViviD
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden235 Posts
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#314
He actually had good reasons, quite cute ones too :D he felt lonely!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#315
On December 09 2011 06:50 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:49 Corvi wrote:
am i blind or is that team not even sponsored? at least i cant find anything on their website. some rich guy behind this?


Are you serious, go to complexitygaming.com

All their sponsors are right at the top.

He's talking about Quantic.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#316
Really enjoyed the statements from all parties involved. GL to Naniwa Quantic Gaming and Complexity Gaming in the future!!
Sc2 Caster | Host of Sc2 Up & Coming | The Godfather of Team LXG | Sc2 Historian | Youtube.com/NanMan | Twitch.tv/TheRealNanMan | Twitter.com/TheRealNanMan |
Jebotres
Profile Joined August 2011
Croatia48 Posts
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#317
On December 09 2011 06:46 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:42 Jebotres wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:37 ptbl wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:33 Jebotres wrote:
From Jason Lake on reddit:

We're sending TriMaster to Korea any week now and Johan is well aware of that. I'm not going to get into a public argument and wish him the very best but this was a one way decision. His contract was being sold (to Quantic or someone else) whether he approved or not.


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/n59w3/complexity_sells_naniwa_contract_to_quantic_gaming/c36d1v7


And people keep saying "read nani's statement first" when it's obvious that complexity kicked him out.


Because they should read it before riding Nani for being ''kicked out'' - it was the single extra piece of info available at the time and people decided to not read it, remember I only posted the CoL statement like 10 minutes ago.

Furthermore, his contract was sold, he wasnt kicked out. Big difference.

Anyways, I much prefer Quantic to CoL and was kinda disappointed when Nani joined Complexity, I'd be his fan no matter what team he is in but this is pretty sweet, hope it works out in the long run.

Nani fighting!

You obviously didn't even read his post. Wow


No, I posted it and didnt even read it, lol.

Maybe you should re-read my post before replying.

People were assuming he was kicked out for a whole 10ish pages refusing to read NaNi's statement on the matter when it was the only extra piece of information available, that is all I am pointing out.
ShineOnYou
Profile Joined November 2011
93 Posts
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#318
OP forgot to include naniwas statement:
“I know I might get criticized by fans and haters for switching teams, but what Quantic had to offer was simply better and much more similar to what my visions are for my career. With Quantic I will have the opportunity to live with SaSe and that will for sure help me a lot. He’s not just a good player but a very dear friend of mine and it will be fun and interesting to play in the same team as him.

I was not a good fit in Complexity because I was all alone in Korea, and they had no plans to send any more of their players here for a long time. I may come off as a cold person in interviews and with the way I act in general, but I get lonely quite easily. Living with other people who speak English and being around StarTale (who embraced me with open arms when I first came to Korea) is an exciting prospect for me. If my time within Quantic goes as well as I think it will, then you can bet I won’t be moving teams again. Thanks to all my fans! Continue to support me in the future please!”
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
December 08 2011 21:50 GMT
#319
"he does not share the core values of XXX"

NaNi should try to do something about his personality.
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
December 08 2011 21:51 GMT
#320
Hnnng, sad to see.

I hope he still has some good training partners and doesn't have to play with the Quanitc guys.
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 58 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
12:05
Summer Cup Group B
WardiTV973
TKL 174
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 390
ProTech86
SHIN 72
trigger 19
RushiSC 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6557
Bisu 2751
Shuttle 2356
Jaedong 1276
Britney 969
Soma 878
Light 370
Larva 363
Hyuk 309
firebathero 302
[ Show more ]
Stork 267
Mini 244
hero 200
actioN 198
Soulkey 188
Snow 186
ggaemo 168
Dewaltoss 128
Rush 121
Mong 119
Sharp 100
Hyun 80
Pusan 76
soO 39
Free 35
sorry 35
JYJ 34
910 34
ToSsGirL 31
Movie 22
Bale 20
Rock 17
Barracks 17
Sacsri 17
Sexy 16
Terrorterran 14
IntoTheRainbow 14
Hm[arnc] 13
GoRush 12
Noble 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
zelot 7
Dota 2
qojqva2262
Dendi1147
syndereN409
XaKoH 337
League of Legends
Trikslyr44
Counter-Strike
fl0m3595
byalli338
Other Games
FrodaN5726
B2W.Neo825
hiko767
Lowko617
Harstem510
crisheroes324
Liquid`VortiX205
Hui .195
TKL 174
ArmadaUGS125
Livibee101
CosmosSc2 42
KnowMe34
SteadfastSC19
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV188
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 19
• mYiSmile117
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 25
• HerbMon 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1118
League of Legends
• Nemesis3193
• TFBlade865
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
8h 41m
The PondCast
18h 41m
Kung Fu Cup
19h 41m
OSC
1d 8h
CrankTV Team League
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.