EPTgl naniwa i am sure you will do great on GSL
Complexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 18
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Please make sure to read the statement from Naniwa that is linked in the full article before commenting. | ||
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tapk69
Portugal264 Posts
gl naniwa i am sure you will do great on GSL | ||
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mache
47 Posts
anyways GL nani, hopefully this doesnt affect to your Starcraft2 CV haha :D | ||
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milky_muh
Sweden38 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:53 ZwuckeL wrote: why has noone seen this coming? i would have thought everyone has seen it coming, after the fact of nani bm'ing so hard at MLG and putting coL in a very awkward position Hahaha, who/what did he BM? :D | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
Why not use official channels and clear out confusion before announcing stuff instead of this shit flinging crap in reddit posts? | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:55 crms wrote: I'd imagine Naniwa didn't want to do a lot of community outreach and PR stuff, something complexity probably wants to grow more seeing as their big rivals EG are the kings of 'outside the game' content creation. Naniwa probably wants to be left alone to train and only train and that was a problem for coL. Of course, pure speculation but it seems reasonable. Anyway, I love Naniwa so gl to wherever he goes in the future. I dunno, Quantic seems pretty big on doing community outreaching stuff. Remember when they were doing all those interviews with the IM players? | ||
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
Eh, NesTea, how could you miss it... | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:55 Choboo wrote: To quote the man himself: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267130¤tpage=14#264 Breaking a contract and having his contract sold isn't the same... | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
IMNestea and MLG itself. "joke tournament" | ||
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Zalithian
520 Posts
I don't know. Major League Gaming, probably the best SC2 tournament in the world, or at least outside Korea. Nestea, one of the most respected players in Korea and the world? | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:50 Jebotres wrote: No, I posted it and didnt even read it, lol. Maybe you should re-read my post before replying. People were assuming he was kicked out for a whole 10ish pages refusing to read NaNi's statement on the matter when it was the only extra piece of information available, that is all I am pointing out. It is called reading between the lines. complexity approached quantic, which means they wanted to get rid of naniwa's contract. Naniwa didnt fit with complexity's "core values." Jason lake's reddit statement only confirms the facts and that nani was possibly lying in his statement. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:54 canikizu wrote: Naniwa bmed IMNestea. IM parted way with Quantic. Quantic purchased Naniwa. Now it's all clear. They didn't have to purchase him, NaNiWa's contract was transferred over to QxG without an actual buy if I'm not mistaken, because coL would have to wait a while yet to transfer more players to Korea, I'm assuming they have QXC in mind. Interesting, not sure if I saw this coming, but as long as he's in Korea he'll be happy, same as MajOr | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:53 Klondikebar wrote: Did you read what he said on reddit? "We're sending TriMaster to Korea any week now and Johan is well aware of that. I'm not going to get into a public argument and wish him the very best but this was a one way decision. His contract was being sold (to Quantic or someone else) whether he approved or not." Which translates to: I don't want to say anything bad, but I'm going to proceed to say that we don't care what our players want. Or he was STRONGLY implying that Naniwa had pissed off the team. Either way, he was getting into a public argument in the very statement where he said he didn't want to. And terse little laws like "whether he approved or not" imply a management style of which I don't approve. I don't see how he said, "We don't care what our players want". That's some pretty crazy extrapolation from something that isn't event hinted at. He does plainly state that Naniwa is not being entirely honest about no future English speaking teammates coming to Korea, I see no problem with calling someone who is lying to make themselves look better provided that is the case, we aren't sure. The second was a pretty clear statement that they were going to remove him from the team and were looking to do so, effectively suggested he was being "kicked out" in a sense. Considering his history, I'm sort of leaning towards Complexity's side but it seems they didn't know what they were getting into despite Odee briefing them on what to expect. | ||
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Roberi
Sweden347 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
Nestea mentioned Naniwa in his last interview, if anything it was a good publicity stunt  | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
Also, "boredom" isn't a reason to leave one of the biggest MGCs in the business. I'm sure there were many issues involved, which makes me quite impressed with the fact that complexity still manages to keep it relatively calm and classy. Hope it works out for everyone  LE: yeah, same story every x months, and still there's people who go "hmm. probably the managers were bad or the team didn't fulfill enough expectations, maybe some boredom as well" :D so silly ^^ | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:57 pPingu wrote: Breaking a contract and having his contract sold isn't the same... practically the same | ||
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On December 09 2011 06:56 karpo wrote: What i don't understand is how Complexity's founder can write such posts on reddit. It just feels so unprofessional to me. They aren't a small business anymore, there's alot of money involved yet their PR skills seem so bad both now and with the Stephano deal. Why not use official channels and clear out confusion before announcing stuff instead of this shit flinging crap in reddit posts? Small business anymore? Yeah, I think a G7 might be aware they aren't small time. Jason Lake knows better than you, me, and everyone on this forum. We aren't in a place to criticize him. Rather disgusting if you ask me, to think that someone outside of the G7 can have such a bold position and not defer to our elders in eSports. | ||
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
Edit: Ok, found it it is not so bad: @OGJackyor I am me and not col what i say I stand for and if there are misunderstandings I'll clear them up .... Kid I had it more argressive in mind. | ||
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marxgarza
United States373 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
Not anything alike, actually. Not even remotely. Even leaning towards Complexity's side in this, Naniwa having his contract sold is nothing like breaking a contract. | ||
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