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Regarding the whole DH vs MLG debate that people talk about in this thread there there are not so many stats that you can compare.
DreamHack Winter presented their stats earlier today with 1.7M Unique Viewers on one single event while MLG have not released unique viewers for MLG Providence - only hours and peak concurrent viewers.
So if you want to compare DH and MLG regarding "How many people watched the event" you simply cannot do it.
+If you want to get it even more complicated DH Summer also had the LoL tournament with about 200k concurrent viewers. Add the other DH Summer games and you have a gigantic concurrent peak number. But this was not released together with the official TwitchTV stats so it's very hard to compare this with MLG concurrent viewers number.
You can debate this forever but that's how it is.
Why not just be happy that we have two tournaments with amazing stats that are growing like crazy?
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On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.
You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?
Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers... That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic. Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG
Pretty sure that is one of the most desirable demographics for marketing
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WOOOOOT!!! Great to see that MLG is thriving and living strong. GO MLG!!!
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As long as Sundance leads like he currently does I will continue to purchase every weekend for MLG events. 
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On December 07 2011 01:33 feanor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.
You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?
Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers... That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic. Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG Pretty sure that is one of the most desirable demographics for marketing
Its not, most networks use 18-49 as the main demo.
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Didn't Sundance say if they didn't get 300k concurrent viewers it would be disappointing?
I'm not sure if the figure of 241k includes all their media outlets, but ostensibly those figures were lower than expected for MLG right?
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241,000 is simply staggering, wow.
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On December 07 2011 01:43 godemperor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 01:33 feanor1 wrote:On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.
You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?
Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers... That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic. Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG Pretty sure that is one of the most desirable demographics for marketing Its not, most networks use 18-49 as the main demo.
This in no way contradicts what feanor1 said...
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On December 07 2011 01:53 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 01:43 godemperor wrote:On December 07 2011 01:33 feanor1 wrote:On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.
You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?
Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers... That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic. Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG Pretty sure that is one of the most desirable demographics for marketing Its not, most networks use 18-49 as the main demo. This in no way contradicts what feanor1 said...
And to try to get the 30+ demo happy is just not MLGs thing, they shouldn't even try. They are doing the right thing, comparing within the demo they want to compete, nothing strange about it.
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This really is pretty amazing. I'd like it if someone could put the statement about beating out traditional cable television stations and having higher viewership that those stations did in a quarter hour into some context. Why a quarter hour? Are we comparing MLG peak concurrent to the average 15 minutes of these stations? Still, blows my mind that we are even able to compare to cable television and not just fringe channels on the extended packages but FX, Comedy Central, and TBS.
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This is so awesome! I love the growth. Hopefully I can attend an MLG in 2012.
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We could kid ourselves and pretend that MLG 2011 wasn't bigger than MLG 2010 because of Starcraft 2. But thats like saying that chocolate is just as nice without sugar.
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Jesus incredible numbers great job MLG.
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Bisutopia19223 Posts
If OP had left the Dreamhack pic out of the thread there would never be this DH vs MLG nonsense. I personally say you remove it and let us just be happy with those outstanding MLG statistics.
Thanks MLG and this is awesome news!
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Now the question is, Will it keep growing and rival brood war OSL/MSL Glory years numbers? Or will it turn out to be a dud. In my opinion, the game really is good right now, but HoTS Is just going to ruin the progress it has made. All the units they are putting in are just shit, the games all about just big fights when it shouldn't be. For the fanbase to keep growing, the game needs to be made more exciting. Just my 2 cents~
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On December 07 2011 01:33 feanor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.
You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?
Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers... That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic. Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG Pretty sure that is one of the most desirable demographics for marketing
Keep in mind that MTV is on every day, while MLG is only every couple months. This means that fans are more likely to watch the MLG events cause they know it's rare, whereas MTV is always on so you watch it whenever you have time. If mlg was on every day like MTV they'd probably be nowhere close to their numbers.
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Germany2238 Posts
i would be a real fan of mlg if their format wouldnt be the worst out of any big tournament out there
hope they will give European (or maybe even SEA) players to come over and have a realistic chance to stay in the top 16 without having to win like 20 series in a row while seeded players can just lose every single game and still come in ahead of a guy that won 12 or something bo 3s in a row
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looks like cool numbers. congrats MLG.
GO #ESPORTS
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I DIDN'T KNOW!!! I just didn't know...........
There are 21 countries that have never heard the holy words of the eSport!
+ Show Spoiler +Now we know, and knowing is half the battle.
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Do we know whether the peak concurrent figure represents unique viewers? Or were the people running 4 streams at once counted as four? If the latter, the number becomes much less impressive, and actually lower than even MLG was hoping for.
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