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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 06 2011 15:45 GMT
#41
Oh jeez. Simple article that is cleverly designed to simply show MLG's growth rather than initiate flame war over MLG vs Dreamhack.

European posters must of course defend DH.
U.S. posters must of course defend MLG.

Lmao just enjoy the damn growth for e-sports.
I love crazymoving
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
December 06 2011 15:45 GMT
#42
On December 07 2011 00:42 Koshi wrote:
Not surprised. MLG gets me hyped every time, and it keeps me hyped from the first to the last minute.

+ Show Spoiler +
It is hard to compare to TV though, because TV station are limited to 1 country mostly, unless you have a satellite but (in Belgium) almost nobody has that.


I think the main reason MLG is so hyped is how its always 1-2 months till the next stop and ppl are more excited how their favorite player will move up on the MLG rankings and the addition of the GSL partnership.

Of course i could be wrong don't crucify me.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
December 06 2011 15:47 GMT
#43
On December 07 2011 00:44 DreamOen wrote:
I dont get that much rivalry between dreamhack and mlg, they both are different kind of events, where dreamhack is a lan byoc where they invite players to play an invitational, and mlg is a pro circuit during the whole year.


it's so hard for ppl to just be happy for both events, and for the growth of eSports.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
December 06 2011 15:49 GMT
#44
I really would love something like this but for Starcraft streams only. How much of a percentage do you guys think SC2 occupies in those statistics?
forSeohyun
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
504 Posts
December 06 2011 15:50 GMT
#45
What is wrong with people? So much need to compare everything negatively, in every thread, be it number of stream viewers, players, games (BW vs SC2), artists (yeah, even comparing looks within groups).

If you win, praise your opponents.
If you lose, congratulate the winner.

That is the only way a victory gains meaning, if you lose to someone who sucks: what does that make you?

We should be glad that MLG and DH is showing great form, despite a long, arduous season this autumn.

That DH would get less viewers than MLG Providence isn't surprising for two reasons.

1. Providence was the weekend before DH and MLG was extremely tiring (not complaining)
2. DH had two weekdays instead of one and fewer koreans (a lot which sadly declined in the last minute)
Seohyun fan
Norzma
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden160 Posts
December 06 2011 15:51 GMT
#46
Both event broke their previous records, which is awesome, so no flamewar please.

Also find it kinda cool that sweden is in top 5 at watching, since we are pretty few people, but seem to have a very large fanbase.
Ecliptium
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada147 Posts
December 06 2011 15:55 GMT
#47
Go Esports!!!!!!
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
December 06 2011 15:55 GMT
#48
On December 07 2011 00:44 DreamOen wrote:
I dont get that much rivalry between dreamhack and mlg, they both are different kind of events, where dreamhack is a lan byoc where they invite players to play an invitational, and mlg is a pro circuit during the whole year.



Neither company sees it as a rivalry, we're just constantly bombarded with questions/comments that attempt to create one.

Esports events failing is bad for everyone, so we're happy for their success!
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126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
December 06 2011 15:55 GMT
#49
On December 07 2011 00:27 sabas123 wrote:
bigger than comedy central0_o why dont they go on real tv?


It's a flawed comparison as MLG's streams are readily available and easily accessible (for free) to people all around the world, while US cable channels obviously aren't. To make it worse I guess for this comparison they only used the US viewer numbers for the cable channels, whilst using the entire viewership for their own streams?

Also, how do they know the ages of people watching their streams?
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skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 15:59:28
December 06 2011 15:56 GMT
#50
I like this infographic except for the cable TV comparison. That is really unfair and just hype comparing average viewers of a 24/7 station to something that specific fans tune in to for a weekend.
(I'm assuming it means average # of viewers over any given 15 minute period, which would include times like 4am when almost no one would be watching)
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 16:00:02
December 06 2011 15:59 GMT
#51
On December 07 2011 00:44 DreamOen wrote:
I dont get that much rivalry between dreamhack and mlg, they both are different kind of events, where dreamhack is a lan byoc where they invite players to play an invitational, and mlg is a pro circuit during the whole year.


To compare DH and MLG is, as you say, not really correct.

DH is a made into a culture event in sweden, they don't work with a 100+ staff to market, sell, produce and create content for them. They create a lan where people can create stuff, play and watch games being played. They have also got 2-3 guys working with esports, making it a new part of Dreamhack.

I would love for Dreamhack to go all in with esports, but that is not what the Dreamhack brand stands for to 22 000 people visiting every Dreamhack.

MLG does what it is supposed to do, and have done great 2011. I hope they finally have found a business model that can support them for many years to come.

In a perfect world MLg and Dreamhack could do esports wonders togheter, MLG doing the esport content at Dreamhacks. As Dreamhacks CEO said on Lo3, everyone is welcome to make stuff happen at Dreamhack. Perhaps that might even be true for MLG.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
December 06 2011 16:00 GMT
#52
The 18-24 part of this is important for gaining non-traditional esport sponsors. Glad to see MLG and DH both doing well.

2012 should be epic.
Brood War forever!
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
December 06 2011 16:01 GMT
#53
Nice stuff but don't you have to pay to watch MTV/Comedy Central in the US?
Thales
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States27 Posts
December 06 2011 16:05 GMT
#54
Such an exciting time for esports! MLG hwaiting! ^^
"And God, I, I hope that whenever he loses he doesn't print off some paragraph of insulting things about you know.. calling people stacks of mother fuckers and everything like that" - Brother Mack
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 16:08:22
December 06 2011 16:07 GMT
#55
On December 07 2011 00:59 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 00:44 DreamOen wrote:
I dont get that much rivalry between dreamhack and mlg, they both are different kind of events, where dreamhack is a lan byoc where they invite players to play an invitational, and mlg is a pro circuit during the whole year.


To compare DH and MLG is, as you say, not really correct.

DH is a made into a culture event in sweden, they don't work with a 100+ staff to market, sell, produce and create content for them. They create a lan where people can create stuff, play and watch games being played. They have also got 2-3 guys working with esports, making it a new part of Dreamhack.

I would love for Dreamhack to go all in with esports, but that is not what the Dreamhack brand stands for to 22 000 people visiting every Dreamhack.

MLG does what it is supposed to do, and have done great 2011. I hope they finally have found a business model that can support them for many years to come.

In a perfect world MLg and Dreamhack could do esports wonders togheter, MLG doing the esport content at Dreamhacks. As Dreamhacks CEO said on Lo3, everyone is welcome to make stuff happen at Dreamhack. Perhaps that might even be true for MLG.

This. Dreamhack is not an Esports event. It's a cultural event that supports the general concept of a "Computer Festival" So dreamhack aren't actualy spending all their resources on promoting Esports, to compare MLG with Dreamhack is like comparing oranges with apples.
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Kitetsu
Profile Joined October 2010
73 Posts
December 06 2011 16:21 GMT
#56
I can't believe every would-be feel-good thread ends up so littered with arguments and complaints and all kinds of other nonsense.

MLG and Dreamhack (and others like IPL) have had great years, why do you have to bicker about it? American businesses like to manipulate statisitics? Businesses EVERYWHERE have and will continue to do as such, if it helps them make money. One of the core ideas that defines a business is that it should exist to make money. For every 1 nerd bickering about meaningless statistics there are 10 or more people actually impressed/influenced by said statistics.

With that said, I'm happy that SC2 is growing and MLG and DH are two of the major platforms that will help it do so.
If you're lonely, you can talk to me.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
December 06 2011 16:30 GMT
#57
in other words: fuck yeah starcraft! ^^
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
December 06 2011 16:31 GMT
#58
this ' war ' some members of the community want to create between MLG and DH is ridiculous and retarded.
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rawrss
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada29 Posts
December 06 2011 16:31 GMT
#59
From an advertising angle, those are some juicy #'s to go into any major corporation and possibly target such a huge target market of males 18-24.

3+ hours per weekend, I'm sure there are some of us that pretty much have it on from Friday 5pm --> Sunday 9pm (less sleeping time)

175 countries

240M peak concurrent viewers

Interesting to see which new sponsors they can get for 2012 Circuit, and what the prize pool will look like.




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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 16:32:57
December 06 2011 16:32 GMT
#60
On December 07 2011 00:55 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 00:44 DreamOen wrote:
I dont get that much rivalry between dreamhack and mlg, they both are different kind of events, where dreamhack is a lan byoc where they invite players to play an invitational, and mlg is a pro circuit during the whole year.



Neither company sees it as a rivalry, we're just constantly bombarded with questions/comments that attempt to create one.

Esports events failing is bad for everyone, so we're happy for their success!

Is it possible to provide numbers per game please?, I would like to know how Lol and Halo did in comparision to SC. =)
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