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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 06 2011 15:27 GMT
#21
Impressive numbers, that should definitely bring in new sponsors. Of course the statistic about the comparison to the TV channels is heavily skewed, but its still a sign of potential and the size of the market.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
December 06 2011 15:29 GMT
#22
I think they counted me as 4 people watching, when I had 4 streams open at same time.
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
December 06 2011 15:29 GMT
#23
Great job MLG! Does anyone find it weird that Anaheim had more attendees than Providence though? Was it just because the venue had a greater capacity?
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 15:31:41
December 06 2011 15:30 GMT
#24
delete post
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10668 Posts
December 06 2011 15:31 GMT
#25
On December 06 2011 23:52 Manslayer wrote:
sup Dreamhack?


Only proofs that quality (i'm not talking about the players) is not the main reason for success.

It's stupid hype, which MLG and everything "US" excells at.



But grats MLG, you beat a Lanparty...
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
December 06 2011 15:31 GMT
#26
On December 07 2011 00:21 windzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:
On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.

You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?

Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers...



That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic.

Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG


Yea MTV don't have great numbers in that agespan, But I imagine that Comedy Centrals has males between 18-24 as one of their prime audiences. And males between 18-24 is the audience that MLG can sell stuff to. Not a large part of their audience is much older, and below don't really have much money to use, or for their potential sponsor/advertisers to sell stuff to. So in that way that graph makes perfect sense.






no mtv if anything has there largest audience between 18-24.. I watch alot of the reality shows.

Who you think watches 16 and pregnant, jersey shore, real world challenges , 40 year olds?

mtv is for younge people around the ages quoted here, That statisic is very impressive, however im curious how they actually know what age are the viewers ( this goes out to both mtv and mlg, unless a survey is done its just guess work)
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
December 06 2011 15:31 GMT
#27
On December 07 2011 00:27 sabas123 wrote:
bigger than comedy central0_o why dont they go on real tv?


Because TV is not the way to go for eSports, Well just my opinion.
bounca
Profile Joined June 2011
140 Posts
December 06 2011 15:32 GMT
#28
it's crazy how much the numbers changed in 1 year, shits crazy
vertical101
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 15:36:05
December 06 2011 15:34 GMT
#29
meh
its like they wait for DH numbers for so long then 100k on it. DH didnt even put Sweden national tv viewers count.
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
December 06 2011 15:34 GMT
#30
On December 07 2011 00:31 jinixxx123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 00:21 windzor wrote:
On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:
On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.

You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?

Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers...



That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic.

Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG


Yea MTV don't have great numbers in that agespan, But I imagine that Comedy Centrals has males between 18-24 as one of their prime audiences. And males between 18-24 is the audience that MLG can sell stuff to. Not a large part of their audience is much older, and below don't really have much money to use, or for their potential sponsor/advertisers to sell stuff to. So in that way that graph makes perfect sense.






no mtv if anything has there largest audience between 18-24.. I watch alot of the reality shows.

Who you think watches 16 and pregnant, jersey shore, real world challenges , 40 year olds?

mtv is for younge people around the ages quoted here, That statisic is very impressive, however im curious how they actually know what age are the viewers ( this goes out to both mtv and mlg, unless a survey is done its just guess work)


Okay should say age and sexspan. Male between 18 and 24 watching 16 and pregnant i would call men that programs agespan I would say i 20-30 age women.
Yeah
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
December 06 2011 15:36 GMT
#31
Great year for MLG, I hope 2012 will be even greater!

On December 07 2011 00:27 sabas123 wrote:
bigger than comedy central0_o why dont they go on real tv?


Beacuse streams make the numbers happen. What channel would reach 175 countries with the low cost of streams?
I am not young enough to know everything.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
December 06 2011 15:36 GMT
#32
Such a turn of events for MLG. Ever since Dallas they have improved so much. Shame about the prize money budgets though.

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That being said, because of their low prize pools MLG should have lots of money in the bank. 2012 is going to be an awesome year.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 06 2011 15:38 GMT
#33
Congrats MLG!!!

Hope 2012 is even better! :D
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delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
December 06 2011 15:39 GMT
#34
On December 07 2011 00:05 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 00:00 windzor wrote:
Just a question for some of the numbers if any of the MLG guys want/can answer them.

You say that the "MLG Network" has greater number than MTV/CC/others. Are the MLG numbers/others numbers only for viewers of USA/NA or is it global numbers? The thing i'm wondering is, MLG is truly global. Every contry can tune in if you have the internet, but it's not possible to get like Comedy Central in, atleast some if not all of, europe. So the numbers is "skewed" because afaik Nielsen ratings is only US ratings?

Not that it really matters, but would be interesting if MLG actually beated CC in US or if you took global numbers vs Us numbers...



That bit doesn't really matter about the MLG network having greater numbers than MTV/CC because they used "males between 18-24" as the study lol which i think is a bit silly thus throwing that graph to a pointless statistic.

Pretty sure if something about Bieber was on, under 18 girls would of flocked to watch it on MTV or some shit. Wasnt VMAs on 1 of the weekends of MLG aswell? Surely that would of out rated MLG

The graph might seem pointless to you, but it probably resonates with sponsors quite a bit, especially since it's focusing on the 18-24 male demographic, one of the most sought after demos AFAIK. And MLG does amazing in that regard. As for MTV achieving higher peak viewership because of VMA's/Bieber/etc, that's likely true, but that's also probably part of why MLG went with average quarter hour (I would assume over the duration of the tournament) vs. MTV's Nielson ratings for the same metric. After all, how often does MTV have VMA's? And how long are they? MTV may have higher peaks for brief periods, but what that graph is saying is that MLG has a much higher average viewership when it's "airing", so to speak. For sponsors, that's incredibly useful information - they can invest in MLG and reap a higher average viewership relative to MTV's standard programming for the same demographic. Might even be cheaper/more profitable than paying a crapload for a small ad to air during the VMA's or whatever. Anywho, my 2 cents.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
December 06 2011 15:39 GMT
#35
I don't understand people saying "oh suck it DH" or any similar thing. I don't think it's a competition of who will get the most viewers. We should all be happy that the numbers are high and that's about it.
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 15:42:09
December 06 2011 15:40 GMT
#36
On December 06 2011 23:58 robih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 23:52 Manslayer wrote:
sup Dreamhack?

cant compete with americans in records

they find a record everywhere. like every NFL game 304732947932649362 records are set.

dont read too much into american statistics about american events and how much they hype the statistics


LOL. Actually you're kinda right about NFL games.... Hahahaa it really does seem like you see some record being broken in every NFL game, including the most obscure categories of records like "most pass yards after a third quarter deficit" and so on.

That said, your jab/generalization concerning "American statistics, events, hype, ... so on and so forth" is uncalled for/stupid, just like the "sup Dreamhack" comment
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
December 06 2011 15:40 GMT
#37
On December 07 2011 00:31 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 23:52 Manslayer wrote:
sup Dreamhack?


Only proofs that quality (i'm not talking about the players) is not the main reason for success.

It's stupid hype, which MLG and everything "US" excells at.



But grats MLG, you beat a Lanparty...

No...

The reason DH wasn't so high probably was due to scheduling over thanksgiving, and bad hours for Americans. But MLG's quality is good imo.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 06 2011 15:42 GMT
#38
Not surprised. MLG gets me hyped every time, and it keeps me hyped from the first to the last minute.

+ Show Spoiler +
It is hard to compare to TV though, because TV station are limited to 1 country mostly, unless you have a satellite but (in Belgium) almost nobody has that.
I had a good night of sleep.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 15:45:00
December 06 2011 15:44 GMT
#39
awesome! MLG is best event for SC2.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
December 06 2011 15:44 GMT
#40
I dont get that much rivalry between dreamhack and mlg, they both are different kind of events, where dreamhack is a lan byoc where they invite players to play an invitational, and mlg is a pro circuit during the whole year.
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