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ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
April 25 2012 03:58 GMT
#401
HUGE show tomorrow! Stephano and WhiteRa doing a Bo5 walkthrough AND Tt eSPORTS Saphira mouse giveaway.

To enter the giveaway, follow @ChanmanV on twitter or subscribe to youtube.com/chanmanv and retweet "Ep 42 #procorner .... LIVE NOW". We will do the drawing at the end of the show. Gonna be CA-RAZY .. don't miss it!
G4rrett
Profile Joined June 2011
England124 Posts
April 25 2012 21:18 GMT
#402
Great show guys GJ,
Artosis: 'How's the balance?' Nestea: 'Terran: if you play alot you can become great player, Protoss: if you play hard and become good it's unbeatable, Zerg: Sad'
xs101
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania86 Posts
April 25 2012 21:22 GMT
#403
stephano : "there is no standard way for toss to play pvz and win, you just have to try all kinds of random shit like DT's and hope it works ..."
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 21:29:59
April 25 2012 21:29 GMT
#404
I think the best way to beat Stephano's style is 1-3 gate expand styles - opens you up to do a lot of random shit and keeps the Zerg on two bases because they're afraid to expand without seeing a FFE.
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
April 25 2012 21:30 GMT
#405
how did this end?
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
April 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#406
On April 26 2012 06:29 Azarkon wrote:
I think the best way to beat Stephano's style is 1-3 gate expand styles - opens you up to do a lot of random shit and keeps the Zerg on two bases because they're afraid to expand without seeing a FFE.


If you watch Stephano's stream, he opens 3 hatch regardless of what his opponent does. Against 2 base allins, he might lose one base but that leaves him with 2 bases, and against gateway expands he is even more ahead than against FFE. I've seen him win against 4 gate and DT rush, so his 3 hatch opening is really solid.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
April 25 2012 21:43 GMT
#407
On April 26 2012 06:30 emis wrote:
how did this end?


It was 3-0 to Stephano.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 21:49:00
April 25 2012 21:48 GMT
#408
On April 26 2012 06:40 zylog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 06:29 Azarkon wrote:
I think the best way to beat Stephano's style is 1-3 gate expand styles - opens you up to do a lot of random shit and keeps the Zerg on two bases because they're afraid to expand without seeing a FFE.


If you watch Stephano's stream, he opens 3 hatch regardless of what his opponent does. Against 2 base allins, he might lose one base but that leaves him with 2 bases, and against gateway expands he is even more ahead than against FFE. I've seen him win against 4 gate and DT rush, so his 3 hatch opening is really solid.


The thing is, with 1-3 gate expand you are able to move out faster than FFE because you start teching and collecting gas faster. You're able to do a nexus cancel into 4-5 gate, you're able to rush DTs with very fast gas. It puts a Zerg on the defensive, which is what you want.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 21:53:36
April 25 2012 21:53 GMT
#409
Okay, they talked about this during the interview. I think the question was - what about 1-3 gate expand?

Stephano - I think it's the best way to beat Zerg, you are able to kill their third without them being able to stop it. I don't have an answer to it.

White-Ra - It's a cool build, but Zerg make roaches early on you not able to hold without cannons.
Northern_iight
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada363 Posts
April 25 2012 22:24 GMT
#410
great show, the reviewing of the bo5 in replays where both players gave their thoughts was very good. this is basically free coaching
ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
April 26 2012 02:04 GMT
#411
On April 26 2012 07:24 Northern_iight wrote:
great show, the reviewing of the bo5 in replays where both players gave their thoughts was very good. this is basically free coaching


Thanks! Yes, it definitely sounds like everyone is more of a fan of this format than the Bo7 one we've done in the past. Let's try it again Monday with Dimaga.
ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
April 30 2012 02:14 GMT
#412
Dimaga and Illusion in a Bo5 show format tomorrow. We're doing a Tt ESPORTS mouse giveaway also! To enter the
giveaway either follow @ChanmanV on twitter or subscriber to youtube.com/chanmanv. One of these new follows/subscribers will be chosen randomly at the end of the show. Big thanks to Tt ESPORTS for doing this for the viewers!
StimilantE
Profile Joined November 2011
61 Posts
April 30 2012 02:16 GMT
#413
looking forward to the dimaga / illusion showmatch, go Dimaga!
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
April 30 2012 03:17 GMT
#414
On April 30 2012 11:16 StimilantE wrote:
looking forward to the dimaga / illusion showmatch, go Dimaga!


oh ok stimilant
we all see how it is

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MrStabby
Profile Joined February 2011
United States24 Posts
April 30 2012 06:44 GMT
#415
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ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
April 30 2012 19:29 GMT
#416
LOL .... FYI Dimaga vs Illusion with walkthrough coming up in 30 mins with a Tt eSPORTS mouse giveaway!

twitch.tv/chanmanv
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
April 30 2012 20:21 GMT
#417
Oh man, this is actually a really exciting series. VoD viewers should check out the game on Daybreak for sure.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
May 01 2012 02:44 GMT
#418
Big thanks to Dimaga, Illusion, and Axeltoss for a great show today. Uploading the VOD right now so you should see them soon.

youtube.com/chanmanv
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
May 01 2012 17:57 GMT
#419
Oh bummer that I missed the vileIllusion one. Guess I will have to watch the VOD!`
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
May 01 2012 20:38 GMT
#420
On May 02 2012 02:57 NKexquisite wrote:
Oh bummer that I missed the vileIllusion one. Guess I will have to watch the VOD!`


Speaking of which, VOD is up from last episode with Dimaga and Illusion. Check it out here.


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