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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
December 04 2011 13:38 GMT
#101
On December 04 2011 22:34 valaki wrote:
Honestly my 2 favourite casters are you Orb and Rotti. Keep up the good work!


haha, yesterday i kept thinking that orb+ rotterdam would be a really cool casting duo
beep boop
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 13:44:51
December 04 2011 13:41 GMT
#102
orb you are really great, in my top3 casters:

1. dApollo
2. Tastossis
3. Orb
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
jakek95
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom351 Posts
December 04 2011 13:43 GMT
#103
On December 04 2011 10:58 Rekrul wrote:
i think you're doing a great job with analysis but i'd like to see a little more personality and humor to flavor it up

Yeh i would agree with this.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 13:51:13
December 04 2011 13:46 GMT
#104
I think you're very good, but not really exciting. Of course you can't just start shouting your lungs out the next time you cast so it is either something you will learn slowly or vnever at all. For me it is not a problem at all to listen to a good but not exciting caster, as long as he is matched up with someone who is exciting. So I would say if possible try to be more self aware of your casting partners and try to get matched up with people who bring excitement. You can see tons of casters in the industry are successful as a duo, which is because they compliment each other. This isn't pure luck; it is something casters can influence (if tournaments don't do it for them) themselves.

On December 04 2011 13:10 Dreadwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 12:25 7mk wrote:
On December 04 2011 11:12 Rekrul wrote:
oh yeah, and get some new glasses

something baller/fashiony, not standard nerd frame


yea thats been my main critique from the start.
get just a little bulkier, get rid of those nerd glasses and youll be the most baller commentator in no time


So.. got him to be a better casting you want to see his eyes and you want him to work out...

I can see those issues seriously affecting casting.. of guy vs guy mud wrestling, not sc2.

Your casting is very good orb, keep working on it.

Sad as you may think it is, looks are not unimportant in any business related to media. It might not matter to you, it might not matter to me, but it still is good advice to give.
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CalumXD
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom9 Posts
December 04 2011 13:48 GMT
#105
Love the casting, and stream more! <3
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
December 04 2011 13:56 GMT
#106
I agree with most posted, you're one of the best analytical casters but need a Husky/Tasteless type next to you.
And I would love to see you cast with Rotti too
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
KulterBaun
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden44 Posts
December 04 2011 13:57 GMT
#107
You are one of my favourite casters cause you such a nice voice keep it up.
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SCPlato
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 14:00:27
December 04 2011 13:58 GMT
#108
To be honest I am not a big fan of you casting with Gretorp. I am not sure what it is, but I am just not a fan of you two casting together. Just don't mesh as well as other casters maybe. I can't really put my finger on it.

Edit; I agree with Nazgul's sentiments above. I think that is why I don't like you and Gretorp together. Maybe if you casted with someone else or if you two got a lot more experience together I would like it better. but you have casted a season together already so I don't know.
All men are by nature equal, made all of the same earth by one Workman; and however we deceive ourselves, as dear unto God is the poor peasant as the mighty prince. -Plato
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 04 2011 13:59 GMT
#109
I usually watch ESV TV and I think you are really great then. Nothing to complain about here, where you casted with DJWheat you really were spot on. Keep it up!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
December 04 2011 14:06 GMT
#110
We need more casters like you who actually know something about the game. Keep it up.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
December 04 2011 14:06 GMT
#111
I really like your casting. I can't think of any negative feedback. If there would be one thing to work on it would be adding some humor cause lols never hurt.
Young_Gun
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom18 Posts
December 04 2011 14:09 GMT
#112
1) Sometimes you speak really fast in your casting. It would be good to slow down a bit, I think it gives what you are saying more weight (good example is Tasteless). Slow down you speech can also make it more relaxing and enjoyable for viewer because I feel stress out when you speak too fast.

2) Some of the jokes you do with Gretorp is quite off putting and sometimes offensive, try to tone it down

3) You have good analysis overall. So keep it up

4) Getting stuck with a caster like Gretorp doesn't help I know. I am sure you can improve a lot when paired with a more competent caster
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
December 04 2011 14:14 GMT
#113
To sum up Gretorp + Orb (only match ive seen you cast):

Gretorp: "Those mutalisks have been VERY cost effective"

Orb: "They were on attack move and not attacking probes"

Gretorp: "Whatever"
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 04 2011 14:22 GMT
#114
As someone who saw what an infantile nerd-rager you were a year ago I struggle to take you seriously in a setting like this. Not very constructive, I know, but keep casting and learn how to act and behave from those around you and you'll do fine.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 14:40:27
December 04 2011 14:39 GMT
#115
On December 04 2011 13:16 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 10:58 Rekrul wrote:
i think you're doing a great job with analysis but i'd like to see a little more personality and humor to flavor it up


I kinda disagree with this. I've had an assfull of everybody trying to be funny all the time. It's getting annoying. If you really have something funny to say, then ok. But don't try to force it.

It's not about forcing humor, it's about not being too scared of the spotlight so that you become uptight, see?
Speaking in binary, it's not about turning an 0 into a 1, it's about removing the 0 that's turning the 1 into a 0.

So my advice -> try to relax, try to enjoy yourself more and maybe take the foot off the "personality breaks". Maybe imagine casting to your best buddies or something. You're definitely doing a good job with the analysis, but don't limit yourself into being just a human-trikoder who only calculates stuff and makes predictions.
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
December 04 2011 14:45 GMT
#116
Hi Orb,

I've followed your stream in and out since the beta days. I must say - you have grown a lot over the past year or so. From swearing on stream after losing a game into someone who tries to give genuine analysis during a game, the positive change has been tremendous.

The only criticism I have is that you can sometimes criticise players. The best casters never rip on players. Just as the best celebrity talk shows don't criticise the guests they are hosting. Ofcourse they will will banter and make some jokes about the celebrities they invite to talk shows, but they would never rip into them as you have ripped into some SCII pros.

There is nothing worse than to hear a caster rip into a player for doing something "wrong" than to then see that player whom you just ripped into, totally dominate his opponent because of the "mistake" he apparently made, which he actually did intentionally as part of his game plan.

Things like putting zealots in the front and storming your own units is obviously something you can comment on, but I guess it's good to be diplomatic about how you analyse games.

You're one of my favoured casters after Apollo / Day9.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
December 04 2011 14:47 GMT
#117
hi friend ^^;; you're awesome.. just spam nazgul down until he lets you cast the next tsl
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
December 04 2011 14:54 GMT
#118
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
December 04 2011 14:56 GMT
#119
On December 04 2011 23:39 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 13:16 AndAgain wrote:
On December 04 2011 10:58 Rekrul wrote:
i think you're doing a great job with analysis but i'd like to see a little more personality and humor to flavor it up


I kinda disagree with this. I've had an assfull of everybody trying to be funny all the time. It's getting annoying. If you really have something funny to say, then ok. But don't try to force it.

It's not about forcing humor, it's about not being too scared of the spotlight so that you become uptight, see?
Speaking in binary, it's not about turning an 0 into a 1, it's about removing the 0 that's turning the 1 into a 0.

So my advice -> try to relax, try to enjoy yourself more and maybe take the foot off the "personality breaks". Maybe imagine casting to your best buddies or something. You're definitely doing a good job with the analysis, but don't limit yourself into being just a human-trikoder who only calculates stuff and makes predictions.


I actually think, that sometimes it IS about forcing humour. And I agree completely with AndAgain (quotes messing with ma brains), that that CAN become a big problem. Orb isn't doing it, and I'm not saying that bringing more personality would be bad, but as long it isn't being forced.

Actually, we're all saying the same thing. Relax and just try not to force it orb, cause you're quite the amazing caster. An what Rekrul said about your image is spot on, it is important.
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
December 04 2011 18:08 GMT
#120
I've been a fan of your stream for a while now, I'm really happy to see you actually be in the spotlight. I think your analysis is always great and I like your dry, matter-of-fact way of presenting things. I agree with the sentiment that you need a more humorous co-caster. One that you can play off of. I don't necessarily agree with people when they say that you need more personality. I think you are an awesome personality already with the way you cast. I just think you need a co-caster that is more animated.

Keep up the good work!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
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