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On November 15 2011 13:36 Fionn wrote:
It was gigantically stupid, but I don't think he should be kicked off the team. Have him stay home for a while, make him forfeit his Code S spot, and then make him, in January, have to go through the Code A qualifiers and work his way back up once more. If he was really trying to match fix, even as a kid, he wouldn't be stupid enough to write it in chat while everyone is watching. He was just being an idiot with his friend, treating the Korean Weekly like it wasn't a big deal, and got heavily punished for it.
I'm sure he will learn from this lesson and never do anything like this again.
What he was doing WAS match fixing, just not as sever or near to the scale of Savior. He threw a match regardless of the competitive result, that's match fixing. Korea needs to stamp down on this hard so that it doesn't happen again, and Koreans in general maintain respect for esports. I feel bad for coca, but the kid fucked up hard. Not sure what the consequences should be.
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It was dumb, but unnecessarily harsh punishment is not needed. Ban them from the next x.ESV weeklies. No need to go banning them from MLGs, GSL and etc.
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This's so fucked up, so is he gonna play in tomorrow's game?
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On November 15 2011 13:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 13:30 anrimayu wrote:On November 15 2011 13:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
God damn it, now we're down another zerg. He had possibly the best zvp too D;
Slayers came down hard on his ass I guess. Gotta maintain the rep. It was smart of Boxer to punish Coca within the team. There's lot of discussion about banning both players from tournaments altogether, so this quieted them down. Atleast this way, Coca still can come back later when things calm down and he matures a bit more. Oh yea I understand. Just a shame is all :/ I'm also wondering what they'll do for the missing spot in his group. Maybe Gumiho gets a free win now like when Rain left and Nestea got a free match. Or perhaps replace him with Taeja who came third in the group.
My guess is that they'll make the group just between the three of them.
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On November 15 2011 13:37 babylon wrote:
Okay, someone enlighten me: is the profanity thing really such a big deal?
It was just not the profanity, it was also the fact that coca threw a game that he had won and let byun advance because he already had code s and did not need the code a seed.
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On November 15 2011 13:36 Crysack wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 13:34 anrimayu wrote:
Ok, here's the update.
Byun has been permanently banned from participating in any tournaments by team Prime. He may able to stay in the team house, but he won't be allowed to participate in anything. This is real stuff. ...but why? Surely they can't see this as a serious attempt at match-fixing. It just looks like two kids joking around.
Exactly! Damn coca is such a good player, what a bullshit >_<
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Wow, coca has been doing so well. Why would he be so stupid
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Sounds like they were just speaking loosely together as friends, which makes the statement by Jessica and BoxeR logical. Still pretty harsh treatment regardless (assuming they weren't match-fixing.)
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On November 15 2011 13:37 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 13:34 anrimayu wrote:
Ok, here's the update.
Byun has been permanently banned from participating in any tournaments by team Prime. He may able to stay in the team house, but he won't be allowed to participate in anything. This is real stuff. Man, come on. This obviously isn't to the same degree as say, cough BW incident, so it should be punished by to a scaled degree. I mean, if they were really "matchfixing" then they wouldn't have said anything in chat. It was just on the spur messing around in a minor tournament.
I feel that Prime was kinda "forced" to give out harsher punishment than Slayers because Byun was the one who started this. It would look bad on Prime if Coca was the only one who paid the price for it.
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i think seeing as this is the first time matchfixing in a SC2 tournament is done so blatantly, GSL and both teams involved want to mete out severe punishments as an example to the rest that matchfixing in any shape or form is not acceptable.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Trying to pull this shit under Slayers_Boxer
Not in his house.
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United States30730 Posts
Banning the players permanently, or kicking the player entirely is too extreme imo. Temporary punishment would be more reasonable. This was stupid and disrespectful to the viewers, but it doesn't sound like any serious match fixing. Just two kids fucking around.
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It's a shame, I liked cheering for coca but man what an incredibly stupid thing to do. Don't blame them for the punishment.
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Can we redo our Liquibet voting? lol
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 Reminds me of savior breaking all our hearts. Match Fixing sucks for all sides.......
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sigh... when will kids learn :/
Hopefully they will both still be allowed to continue playing in the future but for right now the correct decision has been made.
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On November 15 2011 13:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Banning the players permanently, or kicking the player entirely is too extreme imo. Temporary punishment would be more reasonable. This was stupid and disrespectful to the viewers, but it doesn't sound like any serious match fixing. Just two kids fucking around.
Yeah, dropping out of code s? thats fucking hard to get back there!
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He is very VERY young. Life lessons I guess.
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EPT
