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Coca forfeits Code S due to ESV weekly scandal - Page 6

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Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
November 15 2011 04:39 GMT
#101
On November 15 2011 13:36 Fionn wrote:
It was gigantically stupid, but I don't think he should be kicked off the team. Have him stay home for a while, make him forfeit his Code S spot, and then make him, in January, have to go through the Code A qualifiers and work his way back up once more. If he was really trying to match fix, even as a kid, he wouldn't be stupid enough to write it in chat while everyone is watching. He was just being an idiot with his friend, treating the Korean Weekly like it wasn't a big deal, and got heavily punished for it.

I'm sure he will learn from this lesson and never do anything like this again.


What he was doing WAS match fixing, just not as sever or near to the scale of Savior. He threw a match regardless of the competitive result, that's match fixing. Korea needs to stamp down on this hard so that it doesn't happen again, and Koreans in general maintain respect for esports. I feel bad for coca, but the kid fucked up hard. Not sure what the consequences should be.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 15 2011 04:39 GMT
#102
Wowwowow that sucks!
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 04:39:57
November 15 2011 04:39 GMT
#103
It was dumb, but unnecessarily harsh punishment is not needed. Ban them from the next x.ESV weeklies. No need to go banning them from MLGs, GSL and etc.
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
November 15 2011 04:39 GMT
#104
This's so fucked up, so is he gonna play in tomorrow's game?
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
November 15 2011 04:39 GMT
#105
On November 15 2011 13:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 13:30 anrimayu wrote:
On November 15 2011 13:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
God damn it, now we're down another zerg. He had possibly the best zvp too D;

Slayers came down hard on his ass I guess. Gotta maintain the rep.


It was smart of Boxer to punish Coca within the team. There's lot of discussion about banning both players from tournaments altogether, so this quieted them down. Atleast this way, Coca still can come back later when things calm down and he matures a bit more.


Oh yea I understand. Just a shame is all :/

I'm also wondering what they'll do for the missing spot in his group. Maybe Gumiho gets a free win now like when Rain left and Nestea got a free match. Or perhaps replace him with Taeja who came third in the group.

My guess is that they'll make the group just between the three of them.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 15 2011 04:40 GMT
#106
On November 15 2011 13:37 babylon wrote:
Okay, someone enlighten me: is the profanity thing really such a big deal?


It was just not the profanity, it was also the fact that coca threw a game that he had won and let byun advance because he already had code s and did not need the code a seed.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
November 15 2011 04:40 GMT
#107
On November 15 2011 13:36 Crysack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 13:34 anrimayu wrote:
Ok, here's the update.

Byun has been permanently banned from participating in any tournaments by team Prime. He may able to stay in the team house, but he won't be allowed to participate in anything. This is real stuff.


...but why? Surely they can't see this as a serious attempt at match-fixing. It just looks like two kids joking around.



Exactly! Damn coca is such a good player, what a bullshit >_<
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scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
November 15 2011 04:40 GMT
#108
Wow, coca has been doing so well. Why would he be so stupid
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
November 15 2011 04:40 GMT
#109
Sounds like they were just speaking loosely together as friends, which makes the statement by Jessica and BoxeR logical. Still pretty harsh treatment regardless (assuming they weren't match-fixing.)
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
November 15 2011 04:40 GMT
#110
On November 15 2011 13:37 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 13:34 anrimayu wrote:
Ok, here's the update.

Byun has been permanently banned from participating in any tournaments by team Prime. He may able to stay in the team house, but he won't be allowed to participate in anything. This is real stuff.

Man, come on. This obviously isn't to the same degree as say, cough BW incident, so it should be punished by to a scaled degree. I mean, if they were really "matchfixing" then they wouldn't have said anything in chat. It was just on the spur messing around in a minor tournament.


I feel that Prime was kinda "forced" to give out harsher punishment than Slayers because Byun was the one who started this. It would look bad on Prime if Coca was the only one who paid the price for it.
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Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 04:41:46
November 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#111
i think seeing as this is the first time matchfixing in a SC2 tournament is done so blatantly, GSL and both teams involved want to mete out severe punishments as an example to the rest that matchfixing in any shape or form is not acceptable.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#112
Trying to pull this shit under Slayers_Boxer

Not in his house.
WriterXiao8~~
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#113
Banning the players permanently, or kicking the player entirely is too extreme imo. Temporary punishment would be more reasonable. This was stupid and disrespectful to the viewers, but it doesn't sound like any serious match fixing. Just two kids fucking around.
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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
November 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#114
It's a shame, I liked cheering for coca but man what an incredibly stupid thing to do. Don't blame them for the punishment.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#115
Can we redo our Liquibet voting? lol
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
November 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#116
Reminds me of savior breaking all our hearts. Match Fixing sucks for all sides.......
Jaedong.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 04:42:25
November 15 2011 04:41 GMT
#117
sigh... when will kids learn :/

Hopefully they will both still be allowed to continue playing in the future but for right now the correct decision has been made.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
November 15 2011 04:42 GMT
#118
On November 15 2011 13:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Banning the players permanently, or kicking the player entirely is too extreme imo. Temporary punishment would be more reasonable. This was stupid and disrespectful to the viewers, but it doesn't sound like any serious match fixing. Just two kids fucking around.


Yeah, dropping out of code s? thats fucking hard to get back there!
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
November 15 2011 04:42 GMT
#119
He is very VERY young. Life lessons I guess.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 15 2011 04:42 GMT
#120
hahahahaha morons
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