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Coca forfeits Code S due to ESV weekly scandal - Page 8

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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
November 15 2011 04:44 GMT
#141
Wow, pretty harsh on Coca. Kid isn't even 18 and they just shit all over his career over some bad decision on his part.
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
November 15 2011 04:44 GMT
#142
Wow I honestly cant help but feel bad for CoCa for trying to be nice to his friend and then receiving such a fierce punishment when he is obviously very talented. Still a dumb and unjust thing to do though when you think of the other players.
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
November 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#143
Due to the nature of the match fixing I think a less severe punishment is in order. This wasn't motivated by greed or personal gain, just friendship, and considering his age I think it's understandable how he made this choice. It's also lame to see one of the very best Zergs in the world drop out of code S for such a silly mistake.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#144
On November 15 2011 13:44 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 13:39 windsupernova wrote:
Such a moronic overreaction. Please get this sorted out teams!

Seriously this seems like just a stupid reactionary measure that was made with little thought. I mean I can understand making the apologize but not allowing them tp participate on tourneys?

This is nowhere near as the stuff Savior and co did. The retribution is extremely disproportionate.



Are you serious? This is one of the only things that shouldn't be tolerated at any event or level. This could potentially cost people thousands of dollars and ruin entire teams. It could also ruin the legitimacy of Starcraft. You should not be allowed to have an opinion on anything related to Starcraft.

We've seen this before from other players -- Stephano vs. BratOK comes to mind, in which they actually did have something at stake -- and the blow-up was nowhere near as gigantic as this. Hell, I don't know if people even cared that much.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#145
Yes I voted for Gumiho against him in Liquibet!

This is really dumb. They are former teammates though.
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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#146
On November 15 2011 13:43 Tanatos wrote:
Full translation

슬레이어스가 ESV TV 코리안 위클리 시즌4 ‘고의 패배’ 사건에 대해 공식 사과하고 최종환을 집으로 돌려보냈다.
Team SlayerS apologize about what happen to Coca's 'match fixing' during the ESV TV Korean Weekly S4 and send Coca back to home.


슬레이어스 김가연 게임단주는 “슬레이어스에 소속된 선수가 온라인 대회에서 고의 패배로 물의를 일으켜 죄송하다”고 말한 뒤 “이번 사건은 대회의 규모나 경기의 중요도에 관계없이 e스포츠 팬들에게 오해를 줄 수 있는 명백한 실수다. 팀 소속 선수에 대한 관리가 부족했던 것을 반성하고, 앞으로는 절대로 이런 일이 재발하지 않도록 노력하겠다”고 말했다.

Manager SlayerSEve said, "I am sorry about what happen to one of SlayerS member during the online tournament." "This is complete mistake from us to e-sports fans to cause misundertanding with no matter of importance nor size of tournament. I regret about reckless management and I will work hard to prevent such an incident ever again."


임요환 역시 “과거 승부조작 파문이 어떤 결과를 초래했는지 모두 알고 있다. 비록 온라인에서 진행된 일이라고 할지라도 선수로서 절대 해선 안될 일을 저지른 것”이라고 말한 뒤 “팀의 맏형으로서 사과 드리고, 이번 사건이 얼마나 나쁜 일인지 선수들에게 인지시키고 더 멋진 경기를 보여드릴 수 있도록 노력하겠다”고 덧붙였다.

Boxer also said, "We all know what result match fix scandal has caused. Even in online tournament, this is a non-exceptable matter as progamer." "I apologize as big brother of the team, and I will remind how terrible it is to other players, and we will work hard to show you better games."

슬레이어스는 이번 사건의 책임을 물어 최종환을 2군으로 강등시키고 집으로 귀가 시켰다. 또한, 자숙과 반성의 의미로 앞으로 펼쳐지는 국내외 모든 스타2 대회에 최종환을 출전시키지 않는다고 말했다. 슬레이어스의 이번 징계는 무기한 조치이며, 최종환이 대회에 출전할 수 있는 상황이 됐다고 판단했을 때 복귀할 수 있다.

SlayerS asked responsiblity of this incident to Coca and place him to B team and set him home. Also, by the meaning of self-reflect, SlayerS will ban Coca to any Starcraft 2 matches inside of Korea and rest of the world. This decision is for an indefinite period, and Coca will be back to SC2 when he is ready.

사건의 당사자인 최종환은 반성의 의미로 소니에릭슨 GSL 시즌7 코드S를 기권했다. 최종환은 이번 사건의 책임을 통감하고 스스로 코드S 잔여경기 출전을 포기하고 자숙하기로 결정했다. 이에 따라 최종환은 오는 16일 열리는 소니에릭슨 GSL 시즌7 코드S 16강 C조 경기에 출전하지 않는다.

Coca has forfeit the GSL Nov. Code S for meaning of self-reflect. Coca himself has felt responsible to this incident and forfeit the rest of matches. So, Coca will not be on GSL Code S RO16 Group C match on 16th.

한편, 곰TV는 커뮤니티 공지를 통해 이번 사건에 대한 공식입장을 발표했다. 채정원 팀장은 ESV TV와 GSL의 연계와 관련된 내용을 설명하고, 공식적인 확인 절차가 끝난 뒤 선수들에 대한 징계나 처벌에 대해 공식 발표하겠다고 밝혔다.

GomTV has announced their official comment on community board. Mr. Chae has explained relationship between ESV TV and GSL. After their official comfirmation, discipline action on players will be announced.


Wait.....Eve is a manager?
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
November 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#147
Whats with Zerg and "match fixing". Of all the races they seem to be the most shady. Like the Slytherin of Starcraft. You know they are going to be evil, but you practice with them anyway....you asked for this!
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
November 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#148
... and i was watching those games just now. T_T
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
November 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#149
Oh wow, i get it now. Thanks for all the information.

Honestly i doubt this would have been as big of a deal as it is, if the Code A spot wasn't up for grabs. Obviously the players would still be punished, though i don't think it would have been this severely.
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Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#150
I feel very meh about this. IF it was done in secret no one would have known, so I just think it was pretty stupid from the players. Other than that I hope the players don't lose out too much for this.
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lunchrush
Profile Joined March 2011
United States138 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#151
This is just depressing... on the one hand it's generous of Coca to at least give Byun a chance at a third game and advancing in the tournament, but it's Coca's commitment to his team and everyone who supports him to do his best and be the greatest player he can be, and that especially involves staying clear of anything resembling match fixing. It's especially depressing because Coca was REALLY on the rise as a player, and it's unfortunate to see him fall from grace because of this.

Even so, the punishment fit the crime, I just hope this isn't the end of Coca or Byun =(
There is no order in the world around us, we must adapt ourselves to the requirements of chaos instead. -Kurt Vonnegut
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#152
ah so coca felt ashamed and forfeited the spot himself.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#153
Jeez. I honestly thought they were just joking. Wow.

Ugh. Obviously this isn't Sav, Lux, etc esque, but shit. Come on guys -.-

I don't think they should be banned permanently.
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lit0st
Profile Joined September 2011
2 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#154
Calling this 'match fixing' is a bit of an exaggeration.
raviy
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia207 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#155
Lifelong bans of both players are needed here.
Match fixing is not something to be taken lightly.
They should be happy that they're not facing criminal charges.
jarf1337
Profile Joined July 2010
United States146 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#156
This is really sad. I met Coca at Raleigh and his friendliness may be his weakness. He seemed like a really nice guy and talented too! It seems he felt bad for Byun, which is obviously a bad decision and should be dealt with in some way. He doesn't have the character of a cheater or "match-fixer" to be honest.
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hotwings
Profile Joined July 2011
42 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#157
People keep saying cyber athletes are like real athletes. Well, here's our first Plexico Burress.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#158
So does this mean CoCa is SaviOr?
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Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#159
On November 15 2011 13:45 Cyanocyst wrote:
Oh wow, i get it now. Thanks for all the information.

Honestly i doubt this would have been as big of a deal as it is, if the Code A spot wasn't up for grabs. Obviously the players would still be punished, though i don't think it would have been this severely.


Code A spot is NOT up for grabs this ESV tournament.
Dr. Chae explained it in his statement.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
November 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#160
The thing that sucks about this is that there are only two more Zergs left in Code S and they're in the same group.

Also Taeja's official statement:
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