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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
November 10 2011 06:04 GMT
#901
Reading this as "incompetent criminality" is likely the best read on it. It wasn't a slick con, it was more hubris and complete lack of moral character type con.

There'll probably be some lawsuits and criminal charges in the future, I imagine.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
November 10 2011 06:08 GMT
#902
Looking at the player pool again, this tournament had SOO much potential. Such an epic failure of an event if there ever was one... sigh....
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pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
November 10 2011 06:18 GMT
#903
On November 10 2011 15:08 SoKHo wrote:
Looking at the player pool again, this tournament had SOO much potential. Such an epic failure of an event if there ever was one... sigh....

this is one of the main reasons why i made this thread

I hyped this tourny up like crazy?

Fucking Tastosis and top tier players for a spot in one of THE biggest tournies in the world
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
November 10 2011 06:52 GMT
#904
This is such a clusterfuck I don't even know what to say... hopefully it gets straightened out, I feel bad for the people that got screwed over. :\
Galaxy613
Profile Joined March 2011
United States148 Posts
November 10 2011 07:38 GMT
#905
AZK needs new leadership. Gus should not be given the freaking time of day at any tournament for any game.

He's a freaking bane of eSports; both SC2 and HoN were screwed over because of him.
100,000 lightyears of awesome.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
November 10 2011 07:41 GMT
#906
^^ I dont think too many people would want to be associated with azk now, saw a few people changing their id's removing the azk name, more will probably follow.
riez_n
Profile Joined November 2011
Philippines5 Posts
November 10 2011 07:44 GMT
#907

People feel that he is guilty because it has already been proven conclusively that he is a negligent fool and liar.

1. He owes Clive and Amanda $12,900 (Confirmed by thegunrun, who has paid the $900 owed to Clive, and has also confirmed that Gus will not pay him back for it)

2. He owes a lot of event staff and KTSMedia money, and has not paid. (Refer to Clive case and KTSMedia employee John's Statement on Dox wall)

3. He owes Seltzer and Tastless money (According to Seltzer)

4. He scammed YJ of his place and owes him 1.6k (As shown by concrete screen shots posted by YJ and Dox)

5. He tried to bribe moonglade (As confirmed by moonglade)

6. Turned up for the event extremely late on the first day, and contributed little to make the event happen, following days included ( Testimony of thegunrun, Seltzer, various event staff involved.

Everything above is FACT, not OPINION.



7. He cancelled 4 Cube Players Plane Tickets to the Event. (Coincidentally 2 of those 4 players were facing his own AZK Clan members (Gus is the Manager Clan Leader of AZK) in the tournament and therefore two AZK members got free by's in the Tourney because the CUBE players weren't flown to the event.)



8. He got 2k usd from S2 games (verified by S2 and mentioned of Lo3) for HoNslaught but it didn't materialize.

9. HoN players arrived for HoNslaught but the event was never held. We also don't know whether these players just drove down to the event venue or if some flew in.



You forgot that the bracket for the championship matches were redrawn after the traditional seeding method put too many AZK members on one side of the bracket. The redrawing method involved picking names out of a hat...


so much dirt/mud for one hand/person to hold...

EDIT: i just complied all of them so pardon if i am not directly quoting the posts..
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portland
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States27 Posts
November 10 2011 08:00 GMT
#908
just so everything is accurate, even though the hon prizepot was 2k, that doesn't mean that only gave him 2k, I would guess that they gave him much more to run the HoN tourny. Gus owes more than 2k.
perp scerp
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
November 10 2011 08:05 GMT
#909
On November 09 2011 15:37 shoodyo wrote:
Ive always been a forum lurker but this guys response just had to make me go retieve a forgotten pw and log in to TL and share my personal opinion of him. He is a piece of poo.


ROFL

Best post ever.
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Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
November 10 2011 08:14 GMT
#910
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.
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kKagari
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia84 Posts
November 10 2011 08:39 GMT
#911
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.


i actually agree with this. i think the money was lost due to poor management, and any remainder he kept to himself, probably thinking that forking it out wont solve all the problems, so why bother to begin with. however, considering the outcome, it is pretty much the same as swindling. albeit a terribly executed con.
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 08:47:07
November 10 2011 08:46 GMT
#912
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.

I think it's equally plausible that he wanted to actually steal some of the money. USD1600 is huge to a phillipino.. each flight that he stops and doesn't give to someone else .. each of those is like 3 months of pay. If he can deny ~4-6 flights it's like 20-40K to a developed country person.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
November 10 2011 08:50 GMT
#913
On November 10 2011 17:46 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.

I think it's equally plausible that he wanted to actually steal some of the money. USD1600 is huge to a phillipino.. each flight that he stops and doesn't give to someone else .. each of those is like 3 months of pay. If he can deny ~4-6 flights it's like 20-40K to a developed country person.


Shameless thief. Def doesn't paint the region in a good light. Wouldn't be surprised if another international level tournament is never held in the Phillipines ever again.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
November 10 2011 08:53 GMT
#914
On November 10 2011 17:50 Zidane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:46 arbitrageur wrote:
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.

I think it's equally plausible that he wanted to actually steal some of the money. USD1600 is huge to a phillipino.. each flight that he stops and doesn't give to someone else .. each of those is like 3 months of pay. If he can deny ~4-6 flights it's like 20-40K to a developed country person.


Shameless thief. Def doesn't paint the region in a good light. Wouldn't be surprised if another international level tournament is never held in the Phillipines ever again.


Seems like it's isolated to this Gus guy. Why would no tournament be held in the country again?
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 08:56:40
November 10 2011 08:55 GMT
#915
On November 10 2011 17:46 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.

I think it's equally plausible that he wanted to actually steal some of the money. USD1600 is huge to a phillipino.. each flight that he stops and doesn't give to someone else .. each of those is like 3 months of pay. If he can deny ~4-6 flights it's like 20-40K to a developed country person.

Exactly, it's equally possible both sides of the story. But a lot of the posters here don't seem to see it. Whatever I guess, I'm not here to convince them to change their mind. I'm just here to see how the story unfolds.
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
November 10 2011 08:56 GMT
#916
How are you guys going to extract money from this avaricious shylock anyways? How much has he given back if any?
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 09:04:43
November 10 2011 09:02 GMT
#917
On November 10 2011 17:55 Sky101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:46 arbitrageur wrote:
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.

I think it's equally plausible that he wanted to actually steal some of the money. USD1600 is huge to a phillipino.. each flight that he stops and doesn't give to someone else .. each of those is like 3 months of pay. If he can deny ~4-6 flights it's like 20-40K to a developed country person.

Exactly, it's equally possible both sides of the story. But a lot of the posters here don't seem to see it. Whatever I guess, I'm not here to convince them to change their mind. I'm just here to see how the story unfolds.

But with your logic, the money still has to go somewhere, and from what I'm seeing right now, there's no money going anywhere. If he really didn't try to pocket some money, then money has to go show up by now, either payout for the staff, the media crews, the air tickets,.v..v..v.v All he showed us are apologies and some more lies about paying out this and that.

Either way, being purposely scam or just being stupid, he's the one that has to take responsibility, and he may go to jail for that. You can't just say I'm sorry I messed up and let other people got into jail for you.

rengarr
Profile Joined November 2011
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 09:04:32
November 10 2011 09:02 GMT
#918
I think people aren't really pissed off at where how the money was wasted/pocketed/mismanaged. But how the moron is handling the aftermath of the situation. I doubt he needed the event organization skills which he lacks to rush to a building, that I'm assuming, is within the immediate area to assure two people who, I yet again assume to be his friends, are in big shit because of him fucking things up.

Or even send them a text to reassure them how things are going and being handled. You know stuff like that is like Basic Decency 101.

So yeah I'd say people have the right to be pissed off that we have someone like Gus ruining the community. People may say it in different ways, Gus is a sorry excuse of a criminal or an event planner, but really it's Gus being a sorry excuse for a human being.
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
November 10 2011 09:11 GMT
#919
On November 10 2011 18:02 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:55 Sky101 wrote:
On November 10 2011 17:46 arbitrageur wrote:
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.

I think it's equally plausible that he wanted to actually steal some of the money. USD1600 is huge to a phillipino.. each flight that he stops and doesn't give to someone else .. each of those is like 3 months of pay. If he can deny ~4-6 flights it's like 20-40K to a developed country person.

Exactly, it's equally possible both sides of the story. But a lot of the posters here don't seem to see it. Whatever I guess, I'm not here to convince them to change their mind. I'm just here to see how the story unfolds.

But with your logic, the money still has to go somewhere, and from what I'm seeing right now, there's no money going anywhere. If he really didn't try to pocket some money, then money has to go show up by now, either payout for the staff, the media crews, the air tickets,.v..v..v.v All he showed us are apologies and some more lies about paying out this and that.

Either way, being purposely scam or just being stupid, he's the one that has to take responsibility, and he may go to jail for that. You can't just say I'm sorry I messed up and let other people got into jail for you.


A tree fell in the forest, you didn't see it, so it must not have happened, right? He could have spent it on a million things related to this event production cost, etc. Just because we don't know how much he spent on what, doesn't mean that he's pocketing 100% of this money.

Why can't you just wait for his side of the story regarding to how much money he received, where all that money went, before accusing him being a scammer? He may very well end up being exposed as a scammer, withholding a large chunk of that money, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET!!!

What we do know, however, is the way he's carried himself so far. Yes, he's a douche bag, yes, he's a dick, yes, he's dumb... Anyone could see that.

We all should just calm down and wait to see how the story unfolds. Raging isn't gonna help anybody, it only hurts your head :D
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
November 10 2011 09:12 GMT
#920
On November 10 2011 17:46 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 17:14 Sky101 wrote:
*sigh* seriously, nobody is doubting these claims of what Gus' done. What I said, if you guys read carefully, was how I believed his intention wasn't to swindle money. Rather, in my opinion, it was just manipulation, lying, cheating, boasting, etc... because he is simply a dumb kid, who fucked up big time with this event.

Let's think about it for a second.

Why did he not want to fly YJY and the other dudes over? Err, maybe because he wants to steal YJY's spot and give it to someone he wants to? And the other dudes were facing AZK members, so why take the chance? Make up excuses so his team can receive walkovers.

The money he owes to everyone was "probably" (that's why I hate to include this because I don't know where exactly he spent this money on, but neither do any of us really) spent on production, trying to make this event as big as possible so that he can boast about it later.

So since I don't know WHY he did what he did, I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet. I do, however, have an opinion on his character, and it isn't very favorable (duh!) and explicit (#$%!), but I'm not gonna accuse him of anything just yet because I don't want to assume why he did what he did. My thoughts written above are just thoughts on the other side of a coin, they're not valid to be used as evidences to support any argument, which is why I'm not gonna use it. Rather, I want to sit back and wait for everything to unfold before I come to a conclusion.

I think it's equally plausible that he wanted to actually steal some of the money. USD1600 is huge to a phillipino.. each flight that he stops and doesn't give to someone else .. each of those is like 3 months of pay. If he can deny ~4-6 flights it's like 20-40K to a developed country person.


Yup .. I can attest to this .. $2k is a big money
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