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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 18:49:56
November 08 2011 18:41 GMT
#381
Also, I might get into fucking debt of around 40,000 PHP because all the rooms were named after me and not after him.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States533 Posts
November 08 2011 18:43 GMT
#382
On November 09 2011 03:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Hey guys, just incase you want to lynch this guy I have his address.

Understandable that you're upset but take it down a few thousand notches.
Live it up.
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
November 08 2011 18:44 GMT
#383
On November 09 2011 03:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Hey guys, just incase you want to lynch this guy I have his address. Also, I might get into fucking debt of around 40,000 PHP because all the rooms were named after me and not after him.

O.o
Team Operations Director for CheckSix Gaming
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
November 08 2011 18:45 GMT
#384
On November 09 2011 01:09 Arrietty wrote:
Here's a statement from one of the members of Team AZK posted on reddit. I think we really should be careful of distancing the leaders from the staff. Even some in team AZK got the short end of the stick because of Gus' decisions.

Show nested quote +
add to this, even the staff of AZK got scammed, Gus who has all the funds for this event, and the one who promised us that he will pay us, didn't pay us at all. It's so sad that we the staff, did our best to make things work out, and the spotlight for hate is turned to us. On the first day of the event, Gus was nowhere to be found. He arrived late on the event. And it was a great thing Torch was there. I hide in this account, but I would like to speak on behalf of the staff members, who didn't even got the chance to EAT (since he didn't give a fuck if we ate or not) or got even paid as promised. this is really disappointing and sad.. pointing all the blame to team azk, without knowing what really was happening even between the members and Gus. It is unfair to tell everyone here that the leaders just disappeared,its not fair to judge everything by what you see without even knowing what really happen, THEY DIDN'T DISAPPEAR. They went out to look for a computer cafe with (2 group brackets--8players) so that they could finish all the games in TIME (since there is really nothing good if they wait until the computer/internet's fixed). And about the HoN tournament, we were asking for Gus's Decision whether we push through the tournament, but he insisted NO. being his staff members, we follow his orders since we are just merely staff members. With this incident, we sincerely apologize, we can't do anything about it even if we wanted to make it happen, GUS wouldn't allow us, he just insisted NO and that we should push through the SC2 Tournament. We, his own staff members also feel that we got scammed for being not being paid (or even given the budget for food and drinks) and on behalf of my team, we are really frustrated, tired and disappointed at his leadership. When he arrived late at the venue, he doesn't seem to be on the right mind to lead us. So on behalf of our staff team, we are very sorry to provide you a lack-luster tournament. Thank you to those people who stepped up and lead the way, and we are very thankful to have Torch on our team that time. Even us staff members are puzzled and looking for answers to what the fuck happen to the funds, I see a lot of things, heard a lot of things, UNNECESSARY THINGS that he has been spending on. /rantoff


So the staff is now saying his firm NO is the only reason the HoN tournament didn't happen. So everyone's fingers are now pointed at Witchdoc for swindling Yoon, Cube, IGN, the HoN players, and his staff. When every finger unequivocally points the same way, that says volumes in and of itself.

He hasn't paid his staff, and doesn't care whether or not they get to EAT?!?!?

I take back what I said about seeing little recourse. Now I see none.
I....... just......... no...... it doesn't matter what kind of statement he makes now. He has no recourse.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:22:37
November 08 2011 18:57 GMT
#385
On November 09 2011 03:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 23:49 lisward wrote:
On November 08 2011 23:25 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly TL hasn't learned its lesson about villifying people before giving them a chance to give their side of the story. It doesn't matter if you think he's 100% guilty, on principal you should give him his fair say before declaring him guilty. In both the EG/TSL and Major/Sixjax threads, people thought one party was 100% guilty until hearing the other side.

When these threads get so long the issue inevitably gets blown out of proportion and details get exaggerated left and right. At some point you have to ask the question whether some tournament in the Phililpines warrants all the attention and importance you are giving it.


I remember the Major/Sixjax threads. Major's 'side' of the story never changed the fact that he conducted himself in an unprofessional manner, he just gave 'excuses' for his conduct. The people who were siding Major were using the skewed, Sixjax is an evil, scam team, therefore Major had the right to act as a douche, forgetting that his conduct is a direct product of his character flaws and not related to how 'badly' he was treated by Sixjax.

The members of TL feel that he is guilty, based on concrete EVIDENCE, and until Gus says anything substantial that can prove himself innocent, he doesn't deserve a side of the story. It is obvious that he knows what's going on, as his team has been censoring the hate he's been getting since the start of this fiasco.

If you have nothing to contribute in this thread, you shoudn't post at all. You claim that this thread is of no importance, and we have too much time on our hands, yet you continue to post your, it's not important anyway nonsense. This tournament had an allstar line up of players from all over the world, a qualifier for a spot in IPL4. Surely it warrants some importance?



You and the other outraged people in this thread are clearly acting on the assumption that the targets of accusations are
guilty until proven innocent. That assumption continues the precedent set by the EG/TSL, NASL/Korean SC2 Association
and Major/Sixjax threads, which is that one side of a story is sufficient to crucify the other side. It's simply not a reasonable
or productive way to approach these issues. Have some patience and wait for the dust to settle and all the facts to come to
light before creating redundant threads and pretending to be the judge and jury. And you can't act like Gus's timeframe to
respond has passed, and therefore he doesn't deserve to be heard. The real world doesn't operate at the pace of internet
forum threads filled with outraged people who can post anonymously.

And for the record I'm contributing something very valuable to this thread, which is the voice of reason and
patience.



How much friqin evidence do you need to be convinced. You Might wanna read Dox's blog then take a look at YJY forum post on SC2SEA forums

Also you said on page two this thread redundant.

How the hell is all this incriminating info redundant.??

Also you might want to take a look at page 17 where I show Gus saying "GL with that" in response to YJYs threat to shed
light to the community what Gus had done to him

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283641&currentpage=17#330
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Superrubim
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom10 Posts
November 08 2011 18:59 GMT
#386
Major manipulation, it seems.

BAD.

I started by reading the IPL Statement and it's a shame that their good name is affiliated with this kind of behavior. This guy "Gus" must explain himself in the same transparent way that YoonYJ did, or he's done, man... That Facebook bit just killed him in the E-Sports Grand Jury. Shame.
yay.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:15:32
November 08 2011 19:14 GMT
#387
On November 09 2011 03:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Also, I might get into fucking debt of around 40,000 PHP because all the rooms were named after me and not after him.


Players not getting their respective slots and misplaced HoN teams aside, if this is true then I think THIS seems much worse but will most likely be overlooked given how most people prefer the player drama. I hope you come out okay from this! ><
pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
November 08 2011 19:16 GMT
#388
On November 09 2011 03:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Also, I might get into fucking debt of around 40,000 PHP because all the rooms were named after me and not after him.

who are you?
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
November 08 2011 19:26 GMT
#389
On November 09 2011 03:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Also, I might get into fucking debt of around 40,000 PHP because all the rooms were named after me and not after him.



Gus Aka AZKwitchdok made you put the hotel rooms in your name?? And he didn't pay you for the rooms???

Btw who are you!!!!

Sorry what Gus did to you; hopefully he pays you so you don't go into debt
Never GG MKP | IdrA
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:33:36
November 08 2011 19:32 GMT
#390
How much more dirt are we going to find on this Gus guy holy crap the information keeps coming from
People at the event.

Won't be surprised if there is worse things he did; that we don't know about yet..

Never GG MKP | IdrA
leadsniper
Profile Joined November 2011
Philippines9 Posts
November 08 2011 19:37 GMT
#391
Will not be surprised if this whole mess up reaches the local media abs/gma. Would not be surprised if this Gus flees to some country in fear for his life. Not only did he screw up big time with the event, he made a lot of players from both local and international scenes look stupid by making half ass commitments to them. I feel bad for the e-sports scene not only in the Philippines but as well as SEA's. This was a major tournament for the IPL and sadly one man's greed destroyed it. Philippine e-sports' credibility is not in ruins, I just hope that SEA e-sports scene can recover from this fiasco. Imagine all the big names who attended and saw this mess from start to finish.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 19:49:08
November 08 2011 19:41 GMT
#392
Pbjsandwich I have two posts from this thread that might belong in the OP.

You might have to ask the mods though since one of the
Isn't an official statement but a relayed message

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283641&currentpage=17#338

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283641&currentpage=16#312

These two posts might belong in The OP pbjsandwich because they are both purportedly statements condemning Gus coming from AZK members and friend who relayed message of AZK member(s).

Ask mods permission or can you put in OP just curious because they aren't 100% objective official statement.

But atleast gives a chance for Poor AZK member to show they don't condone what atrocities Gus has done to E-Sports
Never GG MKP | IdrA
vankaizer
Profile Joined December 2010
Philippines14 Posts
November 08 2011 19:42 GMT
#393
On November 09 2011 03:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Also, I might get into fucking debt of around 40,000 PHP because all the rooms were named after me and not after him.

someone help this guy out. he's a staff member of team azk who went out of his way to make sure the pro players get treated properly
Get a job mouth breather
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1685 Posts
November 08 2011 19:42 GMT
#394
Ok now the guy getting screwed with the hotels, may have a good chance at winning in a lawsuit.
simansh
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
257 Posts
November 08 2011 19:45 GMT
#395
Wow people on teamliquid are so quick to jump on the hate bandwagon.. makes me disgusted. Shit happens people. Just make sure you never have to do with Gus or who ever and all is fine.
#1 Zenex Line fan!
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
November 08 2011 19:48 GMT
#396
Whoa, just got a huge fucking case of deja vu..

Here's how this situation ends: Gus posts his side, disappears into the sunset, and everyone goes "wtf?"
^So that may not be totally true, but I seriously got deja vu reading this thread once i saw:
On November 09 2011 03:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Also, I might get into fucking debt of around 40,000 PHP because all the rooms were named after me and not after him.

Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 20:00:13
November 08 2011 19:59 GMT
#397
On November 09 2011 04:37 leadsniper wrote:
Will not be surprised if this whole mess up reaches the local media abs/gma. Would not be surprised if this Gus flees to some country in fear for his life. Not only did he screw up big time with the event, he made a lot of players from both local and international scenes look stupid by making half ass commitments to them. I feel bad for the e-sports scene not only in the Philippines but as well as SEA's. This was a major tournament for the IPL and sadly one man's greed destroyed it. Philippine e-sports' credibility is not in ruins, I just hope that SEA e-sports scene can recover from this fiasco. Imagine all the big names who attended and saw this mess from start to finish.


Maybe you were just exaggerating, but I dont think anyone is going to kill him over this. Maybe if he doesn't end up paying people their money then he'd be in big trouble but as far as I know he still has the chance to make things right and pay up what he owes (money, apologies, etc). It's like 4am here in Manila, so I dont think a message is coming anytime soon.
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
November 08 2011 20:00 GMT
#398
On November 09 2011 04:45 simansh wrote:
Wow people on teamliquid are so quick to jump on the hate bandwagon.. makes me disgusted. Shit happens people. Just make sure you never have to do with Gus or who ever and all is fine.


to make sure we never have to do with gus again, the community must stay vocal about this whole issue until we get a statement from him or someone else. it we just wait for it silently, nothing will happen, and that would be a disgrace to all the victims of what happend. this gus guy has to speak out, everything other than that is not accepable.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
November 08 2011 20:28 GMT
#399
On November 09 2011 04:42 Zidane wrote:
Ok now the guy getting screwed with the hotels, may have a good chance at winning in a lawsuit.


this. I think this needs to be pursued and he needs all the help he can get. That's pretty ridiculous and awful that he got so shafted for trying to help out.
The universe created an audience for itself.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 08 2011 20:32 GMT
#400
I can't believe this phrase is actual going to be able to work here but

Gus is killing esports by doing all the things he has done.
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