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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 21:40:33
November 08 2011 21:39 GMT
#421
Someone do my pent up rage a favor and send me a pic of you punching Gus in the shaft. Even the guy's facebook photo makes him look like a douche.
If shaft punching is impossible, then (this part is serious) take legal action. Team Reddit has good funding and the E-sports community just can't let one man shit all over it without consequence.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
November 08 2011 21:46 GMT
#422
On November 09 2011 06:39 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Someone do my pent up rage a favor and send me a pic of you punching Gus in the shaft. Even the guy's facebook photo makes him look like a douche.
If shaft punching is impossible, then (this part is serious) take legal action. Team Reddit has good funding and the E-sports community just can't let one man shit all over it without consequence.


I heard that'd take forever in the Philippines, on top of costing a lot of money.
Frogsox
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia274 Posts
November 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#423
I really hope Slasher and his guests have all the information from Dox and YoonJY etc regarding the contractual obligations which were not met. I consider those to be the most well documented and damning cases.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
November 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#424
On November 09 2011 06:32 Slasher wrote:
TorcH (Trevor) and TheGunRun will be on my show today live from the Philippines to discuss what's been going on over there. Starts at 5 PM EST/23 CET on MLG.tv.


I'll be tuning in, there is about 1% of me that hopes this is a super elaborate troll to get more viewers, but given the gravity of the situation, I doubt it
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 08 2011 21:52 GMT
#425
all of the people who say that IPL or whomever should take legal action need a reality check. this event was low value. attorneys' fees would cost more than the whole event was even worth. moreover, you would have to subtract the cost of the event out of any recovery so even if you win, you lose.

the way you punish the dude is to bar him from any future events and/or report him for theft (assuming you can even show that). its a small community so it will be easy to shun him.
UniquE.
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada143 Posts
November 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#426
now people can say "guss killed Esports" instead of saying blank killed esports...atleast now we have someone to "really" blame it on
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 22:34:07
November 08 2011 22:32 GMT
#427
Slasher asks Torch and gunrun have you seen Gus in the past 24-48 Hours

Then he asks have you known what happened or know his reaction to the dozen or so accusations against him.

*Silence for 30 seconds*.... Very awkward moment.
Never GG MKP | IdrA
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 22:53:41
November 08 2011 22:34 GMT
#428
Summary of !@#$ Slasher (Torch and Thegunrun's story):

- Torch was only there with an informal role to provide assistance and support to Korean players (if needed). TheGunrun was there to provide streaming assistance and to ensure event went alright since Twitch.tv was a sponsor.
- venue was set up relatively late (11pm the night before)
- internet was slow
- Gus was not around and uncontactabele till about 2-3pm the first day and it was chaos as no one knew what was happening the first day or who to talk to to get things done.
- they eventually got internet faster (thanks to the ISP), they realize there were problems with hardware as well.
- Gus was around for most of the time after that, but wasn't really doing much to assist with production, just preparing his "apology" speech, which eventually became a "thank you for watching, we made it" speech.
- Torch said that Gus said he was intending to hold another HoN tournament to pay off the $2k, but suspects it could be a way of waving off the heat.
- Gus has been AWOL since the end of the tournament
- AZK crew and production staff were very responsive to helping Torch and Thegunrun
- Despite the "fake" VIP passes, in general crowd feedback was good.
- TheGunrun: Mineski production/organization/stream (WCG Phillipines qualifiers/Pinoy Gaming Festival) was so much better than this event. This is an isolated event. Please don't hate the Filipinos
- LiviB and CheekyDuck had always been scheduled to cast as far as Torch and TheGunrun knew. And frankly they needed more than 1 set of casters for an event that long.
- Naniwa vs Sen was delayed because it was lagging and there were sound issues (insufficient noise cancellation).
- Torch and TheGunrun are looking to set up a Reddit AMA sometime in the future to clarify some of the accusations and try to shed more light on the fiasco (what is real, what is not)

And that is all I guess. Looks like this Gus guy can't really get out of this mess anymore.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
November 08 2011 22:35 GMT
#429
Slasher, Please do not associate Gus with NZ, Australia or SEA. He does not represent us, we were infuriated when we heard that IGN sponsored him to run the tournament.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
November 08 2011 22:36 GMT
#430
IGN/IPL are not at Fault; they only provided the Funding.

Gus Duped them
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Superneenja
Profile Joined December 2010
United States154 Posts
November 08 2011 22:38 GMT
#431
I got peeps in the PI if you guys wanna order a hit?! LOL JK...honestly though we cant keep letting people get away with this kinda BS anywhere in the world.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 08 2011 22:39 GMT
#432
On November 09 2011 07:34 pdd wrote:
Summary of !@#$ Slasher (Torch and Thegunrun's story):

- Torch was only there with an informal role to provide assistance and support to Korean players (if needed). TheGunrun was there to provide streaming assistance and to ensure event went alright since Twitch.tv was a sponsor.
- venue was set up relatively late (11pm the night before)
- internet was slow
- Gus was not around till about 2-3pm the first day and it was chaos as no one knew what was happening the first day or who to talk to to get things done.
- they eventually got internet faster (thanks to the ISP), they realize there were problems with hardware as well.
- Gus was around for most of the time after that, but wasn't really doing much to assist with production, just preparing his "apology" speech, which eventually became a "thank you for watching, we made it" speech.
- Torch said that Gus said he was intending to hold another HoN tournament to pay off the $2k, but suspects it could be a way of waving off the heat.
- Gus has been AWOL since the end of the tournament
- AZK crew and production staff were very responsive to helping Torch and Thegunrun
- Despite the "fake" VIP passes, in general crowd feedback was good.

(Will be updated after commercial.)


Thank you. It is a bit hard to hear them honestly.
twitch.tv/medrea
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
November 08 2011 22:41 GMT
#433
As I said before, the Philippine eSports community is so much more than this shitstorm around Gus "AZKWitchdoc" Ledesma. Mineski is really THE best eSports team there, the way they ran PGF (Pinoy Gaming Festival - YouTube it!).
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 22:46:04
November 08 2011 22:41 GMT
#434
On #&$@ Slasher

Uhm they are talking about everyone Raging in Chat ...... and saying everyone were hating Phillipines i don't think most people were complaining about the Internet; Or the Phillipines

People were pissed at SCUM BAG GUS; For the most part..... Noone cared about the internet problems after they found out what happened and what Gus had done.

People wanted to get Justice for the Scum bag Tournament Organizer Gus Ledesma

Not really learning anything Important on $^@% Slasher they are just complaining about people raging at the Tournament and wondering why ? (well obvious because of Gus scum bag)

Then They talk about the Problems Technical Internet Problems Etc.... To be honest we already know about Technical internet Problems it was Blatant on the Stream.

Guess maybe they aren't aware of all that Gus committed so far... idk

Gus Still hasn't released a Statement yet; were waiting for one. So he can explain all these accusations against him

Never GG MKP | IdrA
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
November 08 2011 22:49 GMT
#435
There's no point talking about Gus' actions, I doubt TorcH/TGR would have much to say about that as factual statements. He's been AWOL, as they've repeatedly stated.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
November 08 2011 22:49 GMT
#436
On November 09 2011 07:41 XRaDiiX wrote:
On #&$@ Slasher

Uhm they are talking about everyone Raging in Chat ...... and saying everyone were hating Phillipines i don't think most people were complaining about the Internet; Or the Phillipines

People were pissed at SCUM BAG GUS; For the most part..... Noone cared about the internet problems after they found out what happened and what Gus had done.

People wanted to get Justice for the Scum bag Tournament Organizer Gus Ledesma

Not really learning anything Important on $^@% Slasher they are just complaining about people raging at the Tournament and wondering why ? (well obvious because of Gus scum bag)

Then They talk about the Problems Technical Internet Problems Etc.... To be honest we already know about Technical internet Problems it was Blatant on the Stream.

Guess maybe they aren't aware of all that Gus committed so far... idk

Gus Still hasn't released a Statement yet; were waiting for one. So he can explain all these accusations against him


There were even people on TL shitting on the Philippines. People were making some absurd statements.
#TeamBuLba
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
November 08 2011 22:51 GMT
#437
On November 09 2011 07:49 Xpace wrote:
There's no point talking about Gus' actions, I doubt TorcH/TGR would have much to say about that as factual statements. He's been AWOL, as they've repeatedly stated.


True very true i guess that's why the Feel Awkward when Slasher asks them what they think about Gus and the Whole Fiasco.
Never GG MKP | IdrA
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 08 2011 22:53 GMT
#438
On November 09 2011 07:41 XRaDiiX wrote:
Not really learning anything Important on $^@% Slasher they are just complaining about people raging at the Tournament and wondering why ? (well obvious because of Gus scum bag)


Uh dude:

Please read my post above. There is A LOT of things which were said by Torch and TheGunrun.


On November 09 2011 07:34 pdd wrote:
Summary of !@#$ Slasher (Torch and Thegunrun's story):

- Torch was only there with an informal role to provide assistance and support to Korean players (if needed). TheGunrun was there to provide streaming assistance and to ensure event went alright since Twitch.tv was a sponsor.
- venue was set up relatively late (11pm the night before)
- internet was slow
- Gus was not around and uncontactabele till about 2-3pm the first day and it was chaos as no one knew what was happening the first day or who to talk to to get things done.
- they eventually got internet faster (thanks to the ISP), they realize there were problems with hardware as well.
- Gus was around for most of the time after that, but wasn't really doing much to assist with production, just preparing his "apology" speech, which eventually became a "thank you for watching, we made it" speech.
- Torch said that Gus said he was intending to hold another HoN tournament to pay off the $2k, but suspects it could be a way of waving off the heat.
- Gus has been AWOL since the end of the tournament
- AZK crew and production staff were very responsive to helping Torch and Thegunrun
- Despite the "fake" VIP passes, in general crowd feedback was good.
- TheGunrun: Mineski production/organization/stream (WCG Phillipines qualifiers/Pinoy Gaming Festival) was so much better than this event. This is an isolated event. Please don't hate the Filipinos
- LiviB and CheekyDuck had always been scheduled to cast as far as Torch and TheGunrun knew. And frankly they needed more than 1 set of casters for an event that long.
- Naniwa vs Sen was delayed because it was lagging and there were sound issues (insufficient noise cancellation).
- Torch and TheGunrun are looking to set up a Reddit AMA sometime in the future to clarify some of the accusations and try to shed more light on the fiasco (what is real, what is not)

And that is all I guess. Looks like this Gus guy can't really get out of this mess anymore.

TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Frogsox
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia274 Posts
November 08 2011 22:54 GMT
#439
It looks like a massive bus is coming down the Esports road and Gus is tied down right in line with the tyres. It's about what he deserves after what TorcH and Gunrun had to say about him. What they said was almost 100% in line with what we've been hearing. I'm guessing that of SotG a similar story will be told by Artosis as more reactions from the event become available.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
November 08 2011 22:56 GMT
#440
On November 08 2011 12:57 windsupernova wrote:
So what do you want us to do?

Lynch him?

I am sure IPL is doing something as we speak. They were the ones cheated for money, support IPL if you want to help


No. What needs to be done is exactly what is being done. Threads like this. People are reading this, people know.

He won't get support anymore.

gg
Try another route paperboy.
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