EPTIt's Gus you want to be mad at; maybe some of the AZK members had no Idea what was transpiring.
What Gus of the PPSL has done - Page 14
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
It's Gus you want to be mad at; maybe some of the AZK members had no Idea what was transpiring. | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 08 2011 20:59 ReaperX wrote: Sigh... the Manila crowd is really amazing.. warms my heart and my rage for Gus and AZK. It's also kinda Pathetic that he managed to put everyone involved in the Event in a bad-light and put into; such an awkward situation by being part of the event; when they know in their mind what kind of a person Gus is. It must be really awkward for them knowing they are obliged to work for a Scum bag; but yet continue the show for the Fans and for E-Sports. Long Live E-Sports. I just can't help but think of how awkward this is for all people who are forced to work for Scum Bag Gus. Hope Gus is Black-Listed from being in Charge of any Tournament that ever happens in the Future. | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
the guy tried to bring a big event to the community and failed. i don't know the reasons why, but i do not believe this all was set up just to scam people. i am sure we are going to hear the other side of the story soon now that the event is over. my personal experience with gus has been pretty positive. he always replied quickly and tried to get any issues solved asap. no complaints from me. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:06 lefix wrote: i think you are giving him too much shit. the guy tried to bring a big event to the community and failed. i don't know the reasons why, but i do not believe this all was set up just to scam people. i am sure we are going to hear the other side of the story soon now that the event is over. my personal experience with gus has been pretty positive. he always replied quickly and tried to get any issues solved asap. no complaints from me. Have you seen YoonYJ's correspondence with him? | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/global/view.php?article_id=3561685 | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:06 lefix wrote: i think you are giving him too much shit. the guy tried to bring a big event to the community and failed. i don't know the reasons why, but i do not believe this all was set up just to scam people. i am sure we are going to hear the other side of the story soon now that the event is over. my personal experience with gus has been pretty positive. he always replied quickly and tried to get any issues solved asap. no complaints from me. The issue is that he has been far from transparent in his dealings throughout the entire process of organising and executing the tournament. He (and possibly his team as well) has failed to communicate with players, not followed through on contractual obligations and put on an extremely poorly run event. It has already been discussed about how YoonYJ was denied flights to the event despite the contractual obligation existing. The same thing goes for the Cube players who were similarly not provided with their promised flights in what seems like a petty attempt to deny a rival Filipino clan any exposure. Not to mention the suspicious (to say the least) circumstances surrounding the abortive HoN tournament and the money provided by S2 Games to go into the prize pool. If Gus has been open and honest throughout the process then that would be a different matter. Maybe the tournament has issues and fails anyway, but at least everyone is in the loop and there are these huge revelations about behaviour which is clearly corrupt. The fact that multiple sources have come forth with clear evidence regarding Gus' improper conduct speaks volumes. If the effort was genuine then I think the reaction would have been completely different. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:06 lefix wrote: i think you are giving him too much shit. the guy tried to bring a big event to the community and failed. i don't know the reasons why, but i do not believe this all was set up just to scam people. i am sure we are going to hear the other side of the story soon now that the event is over. my personal experience with gus has been pretty positive. he always replied quickly and tried to get any issues solved asap. no complaints from me. Clarify. For us. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
I agree. Provide evidence which is contrary to the prevailing evidence which seems to prove without a shadow of a doubt that Gus has been screwing people. | ||
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
maybe give him a chance to provide his side of the story now that the event is over. i am sure the last 2 days have been hell for him. | ||
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:38 lefix wrote: i don't have any evidence. i am just saying that i find it hard to believe that he set this all up to scam everyone. maybe give him a chance to provide his side of the story now that the event is over. i am sure the last 2 days have been hell for him. Given the provided evidence I think it's pretty hard to argue that there wasn't corrupt behaviour. Advertising a HoN tournament that never happened is a pretty dodgy thing to do, especially since there was money provided by S2 Games to be used as prize money for the said tournament. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:38 lefix wrote: i don't have any evidence. i am just saying that i find it hard to believe that he set this all up to scam everyone. maybe give him a chance to provide his side of the story now that the event is over. i am sure the last 2 days have been hell for him. Granted the evidence is stacked against him at the moment, I do think that this is fair. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:38 lefix wrote: i don't have any evidence. i am just saying that i find it hard to believe that he set this all up to scam everyone. maybe give him a chance to provide his side of the story now that the event is over. i am sure the last 2 days have been hell for him. Read yoonyj post in sc2sea and Dox's blog, read those facebook conversations, he may not have planned to "scam everyone" but in the end it is a FACT that he screwed a lot of (good) people over. You may have had a positive experience with Gus but it does not seem to be the case for everybody. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:45 Frogsox wrote: Given the provided evidence I think it's pretty hard to argue that there wasn't corrupt behaviour. Advertising a HoN tournament that never happened is a pretty dodgy thing to do, especially since there was money provided by S2 Games to be used as prize money for the said tournament. Seltzer (Rachel/Torch's girlfriend/host) said on the CSN stream chat that the tourney was delayed because of poor hardware and apparently it happened today. Can't confirm. But Rachel's usually been reliable. If that means anything. Other than that, continue with with the witchhunt. | ||
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exilemic
Philippines34 Posts
prize pool 100k so where did it go? | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:14 OopsOopsBaby wrote: someone has translate the whole fiasco and posted it on playxp. http://www.playxp.com/sc2/global/view.php?article_id=3561685 Looks like Sickness is responding quite a bit in there | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 08 2011 21:53 exilemic wrote: http://teamazk.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=95&Itemid=489#48 prize pool 100k so where did it go? "Get ready for HONslaught, the live tournament for Heroes of Newerth happening this November 7 in Glorietta Activity Center. It's time to test your teamwork and MOBA prowess against other teams in this clash of HON heroes for a prize pool of P100,000." Looks like The 100k has a P beside it possibly mean the Philipino Currency? How much is 100,000 K Philipino Currency in US Dollars. | ||
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dre2k
Netherlands215 Posts
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