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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
October 31 2011 23:19 GMT
#2861
On November 01 2011 08:16 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:01 Bobster wrote:
On November 01 2011 06:31 zhurai wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

artosis (Z -> p)
gumiho (Random -> T)
Lz (T -> Z)
Guineapig (P -> Random -> P)
Day9 (R, not really competitive anymore/yet)
Nerchio (R -> Z)
Morrow (T -> Z -> (no ZvZ: plays T))
TLO (T -> R -> T ?)
David Kim (R)


forgot if there wre any others

Isn't Minigun playing Zerg now?


Minigun's main race is still Protoss. He plays Zerg quite a bit too, but he plays Protoss in tournaments(excluding showmatches)

Ah, ok.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 31 2011 23:20 GMT
#2862
On November 01 2011 08:16 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:01 Bobster wrote:
On November 01 2011 06:31 zhurai wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

artosis (Z -> p)
gumiho (Random -> T)
Lz (T -> Z)
Guineapig (P -> Random -> P)
Day9 (R, not really competitive anymore/yet)
Nerchio (R -> Z)
Morrow (T -> Z -> (no ZvZ: plays T))
TLO (T -> R -> T ?)
David Kim (R)


forgot if there wre any others

Isn't Minigun playing Zerg now?


Minigun's main race is still Protoss. He plays Zerg quite a bit too, but he plays Protoss in tournaments(excluding showmatches)

He plays Protoss in showmatches too, the most recent one he played they requested that he play T/Z so it wasn't PvP
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
October 31 2011 23:21 GMT
#2863
On November 01 2011 08:10 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 06:31 zhurai wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

artosis (Z -> p)
gumiho (Random -> T)
Lz (T -> Z)
Guineapig (P -> Random -> P)
Day9 (R, not really competitive anymore/yet)
Nerchio (R -> Z)
Morrow (T -> Z -> (no ZvZ: plays T))
TLO (T -> R -> T ?)
David Kim (R)


forgot if there wre any others

Moon switched from T to Z

Hardly, Moon was competing in GSL using knowledge he was given by MakaPrime, who is a Terran. So if you had an experience coach willing to help you out, you'd probably just play the same race as him to simplify things. This is also why LyN plays Terran.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Melo.
Profile Joined August 2011
United States63 Posts
October 31 2011 23:21 GMT
#2864
Didn't Byun switch from Protoss to Terran?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 31 2011 23:24 GMT
#2865
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 31 2011 23:27 GMT
#2866
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.

as long as the other player has advanced notice of what race he/she is playing against, race picking should be fine.
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
October 31 2011 23:28 GMT
#2867
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to choose another race for each matchup.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
October 31 2011 23:28 GMT
#2868
On November 01 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:16 Linwelin wrote:
On November 01 2011 08:01 Bobster wrote:
On November 01 2011 06:31 zhurai wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

artosis (Z -> p)
gumiho (Random -> T)
Lz (T -> Z)
Guineapig (P -> Random -> P)
Day9 (R, not really competitive anymore/yet)
Nerchio (R -> Z)
Morrow (T -> Z -> (no ZvZ: plays T))
TLO (T -> R -> T ?)
David Kim (R)


forgot if there wre any others

Isn't Minigun playing Zerg now?


Minigun's main race is still Protoss. He plays Zerg quite a bit too, but he plays Protoss in tournaments(excluding showmatches)

He plays Protoss in showmatches too, the most recent one he played they requested that he play T/Z so it wasn't PvP


Well yeah by saying "showmatches" i was refering to the one vs Incontrol
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 23:33:47
October 31 2011 23:30 GMT
#2869
On November 01 2011 08:04 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 07:35 Origine wrote:
On November 01 2011 06:33 Hot_Bid wrote:
Plenty of players have switched race from BW to SC2, DRG is a good example, went from T to Z.

There's still hope for Bisu to switch to Terran, nice!


NO! Bisu must be protoss! I don't even know what I'd do if Bisu isn't protoss. Starcraft wouldn't make sense to me anymore.


I'd be cool with that if P got Flash and Jdong.

On November 01 2011 08:28 insanet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to choose another race for each matchup.


Do not - under any circumstances - fuck with Jinro. He's a boss.
People are good at different matchups, for instance DRG is a god at ZvT but not so much at ZvP afaik. Balanced game doesn't mean balanced players.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 31 2011 23:30 GMT
#2870
On November 01 2011 08:28 insanet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to choose another race for each matchup.

morrow doesnt pick t in tvz because of balance. he picks it because he is better at tvz than zvz. not a balance issue; its a morrow-preference issue.
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 23:34:38
October 31 2011 23:31 GMT
#2871
As Korean accounts require players to sign up with their social security numbers and matching names, it is not easy to fake it. One way someone could possibly fake it is by asking for people with the same names as current BW pros to give this person their email addresses so he could add them. This seems unlikely though.


Your claim is bogus.

You can make a TW account with any name you want, and it's the same as a KR account. My name on the Korean server is "Coffee House", and I could've made it anything I want.

Not that it's plausible that all or even most of these accounts are faked. Just saying it's easy to put whatever name you want on an account on that server
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 31 2011 23:33 GMT
#2872
On November 01 2011 08:28 insanet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to choose another race for each matchup.


If he can pull it off why not?
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
October 31 2011 23:34 GMT
#2873
On November 01 2011 08:28 insanet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to choose another race for each matchup.


You know, other than the reason that you are better at a match up? Lol, i guess you really didnt think that thru.
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 23:38:51
October 31 2011 23:35 GMT
#2874
On November 01 2011 08:28 insanet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to choose another race for each matchup.


What on earth are you talking about? One's criteria for picking another race usually does not rest upon balance perceptions. I hope your brain can understand this, but people have:
- different likes
- different strengths
- different strong matchups/knowledge specialization areas
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#2875
On November 01 2011 08:31 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +
As Korean accounts require players to sign up with their social security numbers and matching names, it is not easy to fake it. One way someone could possibly fake it is by asking for people with the same names as current BW pros to give this person their email addresses so he could add them. This seems unlikely though.


Your claim is bogus.

You can make a TW account with any name you want, and it's the same as a KR account. My name on the Korean server is "Coffee House", and I could've made it anything I want.

Not that it's plausible that all or even most of these accounts are faked. Just saying it's easy to put whatever name you want on an account on that server


Hahahaha it's a fun thought though that all the Korean nicknames actually are their names.
I'm just imagining the parents of MKP going "Let's name him... Marine King Prime.WE"
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 23:40:03
October 31 2011 23:37 GMT
#2876
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.

Thing is, if everyone can racepick, there would be a lot of logistical issues with racepicking. What if another player (say Lastshadow, who actually plays ZvP, ZvT and TvZ) is playing against Morrow? Would it be a TvT then? Or will one player play Terran against Zerg? Who gets to pick their main race?
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arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
October 31 2011 23:39 GMT
#2877
On November 01 2011 08:37 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.

Thing is, if everyone can racepick, there would be a lot of logistical issues with racepicking. What if another player (say Lastshadow, who actually plays ZvP, ZvT and TvZ) is playing against Morrow? Would it be a TvT then? That means both players have to actually also practice for TvTs?


.. you obviously could implement a rule to stop one player having to practice 2 matchups... you're needlessly focusing in on specifics when Jinro's claim was that race picking should be allowed in general.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
October 31 2011 23:40 GMT
#2878
On November 01 2011 08:37 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.

Thing is, if everyone can racepick, there would be a lot of logistical issues with racepicking. What if another player (say Lastshadow, who actually plays ZvP, ZvT and TvZ) is playing against Morrow? Would it be a TvT then? That means both players have to actually also practice for TvTs?


No they would just agree on who should play terran and then play a TvZ.


But i guess we are way of topic now-
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Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
October 31 2011 23:40 GMT
#2879
On November 01 2011 08:37 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 08:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:59 pdd wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:
On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote:
Next announcement:
All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2


If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now.

Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random.

Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.


Marineking was protoss in bw

They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.


Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.

He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.


That is bullshit, in a balanced game there is no reason to ban race picking.

Thing is, if everyone can racepick, there would be a lot of logistical issues with racepicking. What if another player (say Lastshadow, who actually plays ZvP, ZvT and TvZ) is playing against Morrow? Would it be a TvT then? Or will one player play Terran against Zerg? Who gets to pick their main race?

Why not just randomize it? It's fair for both players if they both enjoy ZvT/TvZ.
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Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
October 31 2011 23:43 GMT
#2880
Thanks for the updated list, very interesting. God I hope Bisu streams one day.
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