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On November 01 2011 06:33 Hot_Bid wrote: Plenty of players have switched race from BW to SC2, DRG is a good example, went from T to Z. There's still hope for Bisu to switch to Terran, nice!
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On November 01 2011 01:39 mnck wrote: What im questioning with this rumor craziness is whether they actually play the game.. It wouldn't surprise me if all BW progamers have at least played a couple of games of SC2 just to check it out. Also wouldn't surprise me if many of them had a personal account for their own personal reasons or maybe were given to them. Doesn't exactly prove anything besides the fact that they have at least registered an account :D
Unless you can provide proper ladder records of possible smurfs/IDs on Bnet like the ones that were found for ForGG (Raptor and now oGsFin) long time ago, then this doesnt really prove much :D Sure some of the IDs linked in this thread have played a few games on ladder and are in masters league, but that hardly is evidence of them considering to play the game on a pro level. The herO one (which was the only one name with an ID with it in the leaked pic) is pretty much the only "hero" account which has the same uppercase/lowercase combination on the Korean ladder. That one also happens to be the highest 1v1 ranked "hero" (aside from oGsHerO) on the ladder. That is almost 100% hero, unless someone else is playing on his account.
Movie was also seen chatting with Choya on his stream, so the movie account is pretty likely his.
If that shows any thing, it's an indication that some BW players are not really bothered to smurf. So that's why it's kinda fun to speculate if those accounts are BW player accounts. Most of the accounts which have been posted were created fairly recently, making it seem quite likely.
Of course any other account (besides hero) could've been a random smurf.
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On November 01 2011 00:16 RinconH wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 00:11 Xenocryst wrote:On November 01 2011 00:09 maybenexttime wrote:On November 01 2011 00:06 Xenocryst wrote:On October 31 2011 22:27 maybenexttime wrote:On October 31 2011 22:23 hitthat wrote:On October 31 2011 22:03 maybenexttime wrote: I meant tournaments boycotting blizzard. Standing up and saying "we won't use your game unless you include LAN". Uhh, dont you think it's quite naive and childish? KeSPA stood up, China stood up. It's possible. The organisations behind the large events would have to be unanimous, though. I don't think Blizzard actually gives a shit at all, they're raking in tons of money and they will lose more on LAN because less people will buy it then they will make on tourneys. Blizzard is not going to back down they will just laugh and eventually they will live without LAN They are slowly destroying their reputation, and they've been riding on it for the past several years. Their games are not that much better than the competition anymore and their support for the games is questionable. That'll bite them in the ass sooner or later, hopefully. Not including LAN is not a huge issue there games are quite a bit better than the competition and every gaming company is run by scumbags these days thats why games cost 60$ and you have to register a key code. They're all greedy and they don't care about the consumer just the dollars in there pocket I can't understand this "companies are greedy" attitude. Blizzard can't include LAN because, if they do, all these lazy kids just pirate the fvck out of their games. It's been proven again and again and again. They deserve to make money for delivering an entertaining game. $60 for hundreds/thousands of hours of gameplay? Steal.
because they deserve to make far more money tha they can spend in their life while people starve in some countries.. sounds like a steal for them :\
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On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran.
Marineking was protoss in bw
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On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran. Marineking was protoss in bw They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.
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On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran. Marineking was protoss in bw They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of.
Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ.
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On November 01 2011 07:58 brunostt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran. Marineking was protoss in bw They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of. Morrow is kind of hybrid, if i'm well remembered he doesn't play ZvZ. He played ZvZ for awhile, but was notoriously bad at it. He eventually switched back to TvZ because he hated the matchup. All the tournaments his participated in since has allowed him to pick Terran against a Zerg but racepicking shouldn't be allowed in tournaments though.
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On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran. Marineking was protoss in bw They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of. idra started as protoss in beta, and switched to zerg. but, i dont know if you count beta since it changed so much.
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On November 01 2011 06:31 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. artosis (Z -> p) gumiho (Random -> T) Lz (T -> Z) Guineapig (P -> Random -> P) Day9 (R, not really competitive anymore/yet) Nerchio (R -> Z) Morrow (T -> Z -> (no ZvZ: plays T)) TLO (T -> R -> T ?) David Kim (R) forgot if there wre any others Isn't Minigun playing Zerg now?
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On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Protoss do fine in BW. A Protoss with Stork PvT and Bisu PvZ would have been a bonjwa - the race is not weak. Outside of Flash and Fantasy, Terran is not dominant and borderline slightly weak. Zerg has numbers but not always star league winners.
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On November 01 2011 07:35 Origine wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 06:33 Hot_Bid wrote: Plenty of players have switched race from BW to SC2, DRG is a good example, went from T to Z. There's still hope for Bisu to switch to Terran, nice!
NO! Bisu must be protoss! I don't even know what I'd do if Bisu isn't protoss. Starcraft wouldn't make sense to me anymore.
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On November 01 2011 07:16 koolaid1990 wrote: Most of the players that switched to terran always had the most success. Morrow had the most success when he was terran, switched to zerg, not too much success. Gumiho went from random to terran, became a strong code s level terran that took out nestea and is pretty consistent. Byun is another perfect example. He was a protoss by the name of Bleach that did mediocre, but then he switched to terran and made it to Code A finals and became a consistent code s terran until recently.
just, no. He is equally successful at zerg compare to when he was Terran.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MorroW
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On November 01 2011 06:31 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. artosis (Z -> p) gumiho (Random -> T) Lz (T -> Z) Guineapig (P -> Random -> P) Day9 (R, not really competitive anymore/yet) Nerchio (R -> Z) Morrow (T -> Z -> (no ZvZ: plays T)) TLO (T -> R -> T ?) David Kim (R) forgot if there wre any others Moon switched from T to Z
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On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran. Marineking was protoss in bw They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of. Idra was a protoss.
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How can Paralyze be in Masters with 14 wins 16 losses? he must have had played in season 3 right?
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On November 01 2011 08:14 Garnet wrote: How can Paralyze be in Masters with 14 wins 16 losses? he must have had played in season 3 right? depends on the order of wins i imagine. if he won 14-0, he may have gotten directly into masters. who knows?
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On November 01 2011 08:12 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran. Marineking was protoss in bw They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of. Idra was a protoss.
Wasn't Idra Terran? I remember him complaining about Toss during TSL2.
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On November 01 2011 08:01 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 06:31 zhurai wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. artosis (Z -> p) gumiho (Random -> T) Lz (T -> Z) Guineapig (P -> Random -> P) Day9 (R, not really competitive anymore/yet) Nerchio (R -> Z) Morrow (T -> Z -> (no ZvZ: plays T)) TLO (T -> R -> T ?) David Kim (R) forgot if there wre any others Isn't Minigun playing Zerg now?
Minigun's main race is still Protoss. He plays Zerg quite a bit too, but he plays Protoss in tournaments(excluding showmatches)
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On November 01 2011 08:12 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2011 07:54 ZAiNs wrote:On November 01 2011 07:51 Soulish wrote:On November 01 2011 05:48 klo8 wrote:On November 01 2011 05:14 Emporio wrote:On November 01 2011 05:10 Talin wrote:On November 01 2011 05:02 LostDevil wrote: Next announcement: All players on that list that aren't terran in broodwar have now announced they will be switching to terran in SC2 If they were so easily swayed, there would be no Protoss left in Brood War now. Even in SC2, no progamer has actually switched race have they? Artosis I suppose, but I don't feel like he really counts. Otherwise the only thing that comes to mind is Gumiho and GuineaPig switching from Random. Byun (then Bleach) used to play Protoss and is now Terran. Marineking was protoss in bw They're talking about people who have played a race in SC2 then switched during their SC2 pro career. Morrow, Byun and Artosis are the only ones I know of. Idra was a protoss. For a time in the beta yes. Hardly counts tbh.
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Isn't Minigun playing Zerg now?
He only ladders as zerg for fun and when he's bored. The one showmatch he did vs Incontrol was an exception, since the organizers did not want pvp and Minigun accepted anyway.
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