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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
October 30 2011 17:54 GMT
#2281
BW players are professionals with job security? Lmao??? Most of them get paid basically nothing for extreme dedication and hard work. Most BW pros retire w/o accomplishing anything or making much money. They are all at Kespa's mercy.

SC2 on the other hand has teams that have big sponsors paying salaries and fly them out all over the world.
Marines > everything
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
October 30 2011 17:54 GMT
#2282
On October 31 2011 02:42 SkimGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:37 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
Are the BW pros really that good? I mean, are they really so good that some of them crossing over could generate an actual controversy?


The average A-teamer on any BW team will make MVP and NesTea look average
The good ones can make them look like amateurs


MVP was an average A-teamer as well, so what are you talking about?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2011 17:55 GMT
#2283
Oh god, Flash and Jaedong playing SC2, MVP better watch his ass.
liftlift > tsm
Terrifyer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States338 Posts
October 30 2011 17:58 GMT
#2284
On October 31 2011 01:36 kilergrunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 00:50 Suisen wrote:
How can Blizzard ever dream to compete with Kespa on an equal footing? It isn't even close, Blizzard is tons behind western esports organizations who are tons behind Kespa.

It's not about SC BW vs SC2. If tomorrow Blizzard had to run SC BW tournaments and Kespa ran SC2 tournaments, guess which one would be the most popular?

I laugh at every example of Blizzard incompetence, and there are many.
I laugh at their failing tournaments. I laugh at their attempts to balance. I laugh at their PR. I laugh at how their game endings get leaked. I laugh at how Blizzard employers go behind Blizzard's back and sell illegally created runes and items to D2 item shops.
I laugh at how Blizzard failed to promote SC2 in Korea.
I laugh at how they promote homophobia and get crazy backlash.

People always point at Kespa and claim that SC BW players are slaves. But in the mean time SC2 players are nothing. They are just amateurs that have to scrape together the money, beg their parents or a team member that did happen to win a tournament, get a part time job or live on wellfare. And all the time we see how lazy foreign SC2 players are and how they don't practice.

In the mean time SC BW players are professionals with job security and support and infrastructure that for a SC2 player are hard to imagine. SC BW players just have it much better than SC2 players. And they need to do that with a game that is much much less marketable.

It's a miracle.

You realize that Blizzard made sc bw right? If anything Blizzard has proven that they can work with kespa, and other organisations, to make there game reach it's true potential.



ahahahahahah, quote of the day...i found it!!!!
you should probably look up blizzard vs kespa...
eat shit and die
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 18:16:31
October 30 2011 17:58 GMT
#2285
On October 31 2011 02:53 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:46 Coeus1 wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:41 Shiori wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:37 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
Are the BW pros really that good? I mean, are they really so good that some of them crossing over could generate an actual controversy?

Yes. They have much better micro than any Sc2 players simply because BW demanded more, they have much higher APM because BW demanded it, and they have perfected a method of training to overcome any weaknesses they might have. Compared to BW pros, our Sc2 pros are downright casual in the way they practice.



True that. SC2 players like MVP, July, NaDa, Boxer don't even know what is it like to train like a real BW pro and lack apm/micro. If SC2 players train 8-10 hours a day, average BW pro trains 26 hours a day. It shows.


lol those sc2 players you just listed all started with bw. they definitely know what it is like to train like a real bw pro.
He's being sarcastic.
But it's true that currently in BW the top pros can make short work of MVP, July, Nada, Boxer, and it won't even be funny how one-sided that goes. That's not a theory, but proven fact in TLPD bw records.

Basically, if we assume the BW->SC2 transition becomes 100% perfect (which we don't know yet), then the whole current SC2 scene should be below Code A from now on. With maybe MVP and Nestea making it occasionally to first rounds of Code A.

Best description was: you better hide your children, and your grandparents, and your underwear, and your kidneys, because everything is gonna get raped and snatched and burned. We need to start looking for those 7 samurai to save us.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 30 2011 18:04 GMT
#2286
On October 31 2011 02:54 vnlegend wrote:
BW players are professionals with job security? Lmao??? Most of them get paid basically nothing for extreme dedication and hard work. Most BW pros retire w/o accomplishing anything or making much money. They are all at Kespa's mercy.

SC2 on the other hand has teams that have big sponsors paying salaries and fly them out all over the world.

You don't know much about Brood War do you?
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
October 30 2011 18:16 GMT
#2287
On October 31 2011 02:58 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:53 alffla wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:46 Coeus1 wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:41 Shiori wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:37 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
Are the BW pros really that good? I mean, are they really so good that some of them crossing over could generate an actual controversy?

Yes. They have much better micro than any Sc2 players simply because BW demanded more, they have much higher APM because BW demanded it, and they have perfected a method of training to overcome any weaknesses they might have. Compared to BW pros, our Sc2 pros are downright casual in the way they practice.



True that. SC2 players like MVP, July, NaDa, Boxer don't even know what is it like to train like a real BW pro and lack apm/micro. If SC2 players train 8-10 hours a day, average BW pro trains 26 hours a day. It shows.


lol those sc2 players you just listed all started with bw. they definitely know what it is like to train like a real bw pro.
He's being sarcastic.
But it's true that currently in BW the top pros can make short work of MVP, July, Nada, Boxer, and it won't even be funny how one-sided that goes. That's not a theory, but proven fact in TLPD bw records.

Basically, if we assume the BW->SC2 transition becomes 100% perfect (which we don't know yet), then the whole current SC2 scene should be below Code A from now on. With maybe MVP and Nestea making it occasionally to first rounds of Code A.

But the SC2 players have played this game for 1-1.5 years longer, so the BW pros first have to go into SC2.
xCenasfu
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland143 Posts
October 30 2011 18:19 GMT
#2288
I will laugh when like 75% of the BW pros who switch over will pick Terran just like Bisu said..
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5809 Posts
October 30 2011 18:30 GMT
#2289
On October 31 2011 02:54 vnlegend wrote:
BW players are professionals with job security? Lmao??? Most of them get paid basically nothing for extreme dedication and hard work. Most BW pros retire w/o accomplishing anything or making much money. They are all at Kespa's mercy.

SC2 on the other hand has teams that have big sponsors paying salaries and fly them out all over the world.


I hope that is a joke. O_o I don't think we want to get into a discussion over that, lol. BW sponsors are much, much better.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
October 30 2011 18:32 GMT
#2290
On October 31 2011 03:19 xCenasfu wrote:
I will laugh when like 75% of the BW pros who switch over will pick Terran just like Bisu said..


I will cry. GomTvTvTvTvT
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
October 30 2011 18:38 GMT
#2291
On October 31 2011 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh god, Flash and Jaedong playing SC2, MVP better watch his ass.


MVP beat jangbi, best and took a set off Flash, now hes played sc2 for more than a year longer than these BW dudes, MVP would destroy them.

Maybe in like 2-3 years they can catch up.
esports
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 30 2011 18:38 GMT
#2292
On October 31 2011 02:54 vnlegend wrote:
SC2 on the other hand has teams that have big sponsors paying salaries and fly them out all over the world.


YEAH LARGEST ASIAN SHIP BUILDING COMPANY HAS NOTHIN ON INTERNET WEBSTORES YO
dats racist
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
October 30 2011 18:41 GMT
#2293
On October 31 2011 02:54 vnlegend wrote:
BW players are professionals with job security? Lmao??? Most of them get paid basically nothing for extreme dedication and hard work. Most BW pros retire w/o accomplishing anything or making much money. They are all at Kespa's mercy.

SC2 on the other hand has teams that have big sponsors paying salaries and fly them out all over the world.

Of course, except that's completely untrue and you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
October 30 2011 18:41 GMT
#2294
On October 31 2011 03:38 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh god, Flash and Jaedong playing SC2, MVP better watch his ass.


MVP beat jangbi, best and took a set off Flash, now hes played sc2 for more than a year longer than these BW dudes, MVP would destroy them.

Maybe in like 2-3 years they can catch up.

that doesn't make MVP on the same level as flash, bisu, or jaedong. it means he had potential to be an A-teamer. what, do you think flash has a 100% winrate or something?
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 30 2011 18:46 GMT
#2295
I so bet 80% of them will pick Terran. I honestly think Blizzard should hand out $1000 dollars to every A-teamer who picks a non-Terran race.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 30 2011 18:50 GMT
#2296
On October 31 2011 03:41 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 03:38 Luepert wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh god, Flash and Jaedong playing SC2, MVP better watch his ass.


MVP beat jangbi, best and took a set off Flash, now hes played sc2 for more than a year longer than these BW dudes, MVP would destroy them.

Maybe in like 2-3 years they can catch up.

that doesn't make MVP on the same level as flash, bisu, or jaedong. it means he had potential to be an A-teamer. what, do you think flash has a 100% winrate or something?


He WAS an A-teamer.

Holy crap why do people NOT KNOW THIS?

Don't talk BW if you haven't followed the scene.
secret - never again
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
October 30 2011 18:50 GMT
#2297
On October 31 2011 03:04 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:54 vnlegend wrote:
BW players are professionals with job security? Lmao??? Most of them get paid basically nothing for extreme dedication and hard work. Most BW pros retire w/o accomplishing anything or making much money. They are all at Kespa's mercy.

SC2 on the other hand has teams that have big sponsors paying salaries and fly them out all over the world.

You don't know much about Brood War do you?


SC2 doesn't have teams with big sponsors and paid salaries either.

Unless he was talking about Evil Geniuses, which I doubt he was.
This space for rent.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5809 Posts
October 30 2011 18:52 GMT
#2298
On October 31 2011 03:50 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 03:41 Shiori wrote:
On October 31 2011 03:38 Luepert wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh god, Flash and Jaedong playing SC2, MVP better watch his ass.


MVP beat jangbi, best and took a set off Flash, now hes played sc2 for more than a year longer than these BW dudes, MVP would destroy them.

Maybe in like 2-3 years they can catch up.

that doesn't make MVP on the same level as flash, bisu, or jaedong. it means he had potential to be an A-teamer. what, do you think flash has a 100% winrate or something?


He WAS an A-teamer.

Holy crap why do people NOT KNOW THIS?

Don't talk BW if you haven't followed the scene.


A Woongjin Terran, lol. ;p
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
October 30 2011 18:55 GMT
#2299
On October 31 2011 03:38 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh god, Flash and Jaedong playing SC2, MVP better watch his ass.


MVP beat jangbi, best and took a set off Flash, now hes played sc2 for more than a year longer than these BW dudes, MVP would destroy them.

Maybe in like 2-3 years they can catch up.


LOL? 2-3 years?? if they played right now they would catch up within max 6 months..
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 30 2011 18:55 GMT
#2300
On October 31 2011 03:52 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 03:50 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 31 2011 03:41 Shiori wrote:
On October 31 2011 03:38 Luepert wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh god, Flash and Jaedong playing SC2, MVP better watch his ass.


MVP beat jangbi, best and took a set off Flash, now hes played sc2 for more than a year longer than these BW dudes, MVP would destroy them.

Maybe in like 2-3 years they can catch up.

that doesn't make MVP on the same level as flash, bisu, or jaedong. it means he had potential to be an A-teamer. what, do you think flash has a 100% winrate or something?


He WAS an A-teamer.

Holy crap why do people NOT KNOW THIS?

Don't talk BW if you haven't followed the scene.


A Woongjin Terran, lol. ;p


SKT Zergs on the A-Team are still called A-Teamers. =)
secret - never again
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