• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:35
CEST 01:35
KST 08:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier3Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League49Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War145
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? SOOP Announces New Women's Monthly Tournament [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Women's StarCraft] Tier 8 CK 2026-10-20 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9101 users

Cruncher goes inactive from Complexity Roster - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
378 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 17 18 19 Next All
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
October 04 2011 02:34 GMT
#81
Gotta admit, it's weird for me too to see peope with the sad face after the announcement that he leaves. I mean... do people really think he was any good? I think he was more known because of that idra incident than anything else.

Besides, I remember him stating he doesn't like Stacraft so it's no one's loss really.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 04 2011 02:41 GMT
#82
i wish i could re-do college. Wasting the best 4 years of your life playing a video game, even a fun one, is a terrible decision for most people.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
October 04 2011 02:42 GMT
#83
Glad he recognized he needed to do well in school. Sad to see him go.
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
October 04 2011 02:44 GMT
#84
Best of luck to him.
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
October 04 2011 02:46 GMT
#85
On October 04 2011 11:34 MilesTeg wrote:
Gotta admit, it's weird for me too to see peope with the sad face after the announcement that he leaves. I mean... do people really think he was any good? I think he was more known because of that idra incident than anything else.

Besides, I remember him stating he doesn't like Stacraft so it's no one's loss really.


the sad face is a reference to his infamous happy face


(:
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
October 04 2011 02:51 GMT
#86
Good for him!! SC2 or being in ESPORTS is not a future. Sorry everyone.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 04 2011 03:09 GMT
#87
I'm not a fan of him but i must commend him for doing his job like a pro and carrying a weak complexity for months. I personally think hes not much of a personality and his play is boring but he puts out results every mlg and every clanwar.
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:14:56
October 04 2011 03:13 GMT
#88
On October 04 2011 11:41 Sub40APM wrote:
i wish i could re-do college. Wasting the best 4 years of your life playing a video game, even a fun one, is a terrible decision for most people.


If I was in Cruncher's position, I would of stayed with Complexity since they were paying him decent money to do something that he clearly loves. You can go to college at any age as long as you are still motivated and able to study.

I am a bit bitter about this subject, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

But I'll say that I went to university (and a pretty prestigious institution too, namely the university of toronto) and college before that, got good grades and good experience, and all I have to show for it is a lot of debt. Most certainly a waste of time and money, not a doubt in my mind.

Unless you go to Harvard or some Ivy league school with really small class sizes and almost guaranteed employment at graduation (in which case you are rich anyway), then you will be entering the workforce at the same time as another 200 - 400 people in the same field just from your school, in just that year. And unemployment is on the rise right now. Think about that. And I'm not talking about English majors. I'm in computer science.

80% of the people that graduated with me and that I went to classes with are now unemployed (and can't get a decent job because they are overqualified) or employed in an unrelated field which they most of the time hate being in.

I myself work in a computer store as a technician, using skills that I had when I was 19, that I did not need to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get and be useless. But hey, I can program an awesome content management system in my spare time, since no one is willing to pay me even minimum wage to do it.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
October 04 2011 03:19 GMT
#89
Hopefully he continues his studies and in the time between grad school and college, the magnum Opus of his gaming life as it has been called, he will return to the scene! I really hope he does because this is a thing he won't be able to return to if he waits too long .
User was warned for too many mimes.
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:30:14
October 04 2011 03:24 GMT
#90
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
BilltownRunner
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
October 04 2011 03:28 GMT
#91
Good luck at school Cruncher, been a fan since WC3.
uberism
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada271 Posts
October 04 2011 03:30 GMT
#92
gl with school dude. You are a decent player.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
October 04 2011 03:31 GMT
#93
Good on him, as much as Iike watching these guys play I think in the long run 95% of them would be better off getting an education and a career the can build up over their lifetime, than something that realistically won't last very long.

Not sure how this is him 'fading out of the scene cause he's bad', more just realizing that he is better off going to school, just like most progamers would be.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:34:21
October 04 2011 03:34 GMT
#94
On October 04 2011 12:13 RajaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 11:41 Sub40APM wrote:
i wish i could re-do college. Wasting the best 4 years of your life playing a video game, even a fun one, is a terrible decision for most people.


If I was in Cruncher's position, I would of stayed with Complexity since they were paying him decent money to do something that he clearly loves. You can go to college at any age as long as you are still motivated and able to study.

I am a bit bitter about this subject, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

But I'll say that I went to university (and a pretty prestigious institution too, namely the university of toronto) and college before that, got good grades and good experience, and all I have to show for it is a lot of debt. Most certainly a waste of time and money, not a doubt in my mind.

Unless you go to Harvard or some Ivy league school with really small class sizes and almost guaranteed employment at graduation (in which case you are rich anyway), then you will be entering the workforce at the same time as another 200 - 400 people in the same field just from your school, in just that year. And unemployment is on the rise right now. Think about that. And I'm not talking about English majors. I'm in computer science.

80% of the people that graduated with me and that I went to classes with are now unemployed (and can't get a decent job because they are overqualified) or employed in an unrelated field which they most of the time hate being in.

I myself work in a computer store as a technician, using skills that I had when I was 19, that I did not need to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get and be useless. But hey, I can program an awesome content management system in my spare time, since no one is willing to pay me even minimum wage to do it.


Just because you haven't translated your U of T degree into a decent living doesn't mean that university is stupid.

I went to university, and I make many times more money than I'd likely have been able to make had I not gone. I'm not saying that my experience, or this posters, is what YOU'RE going to get, but I beg of you 16-18 year olds.....TAKE RajaF's POST FOR WHAT IT IS....the cries of someone who didn't make the best of a rare opportunity to get a great education.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77

You're going to make about 60% more money on average with a bachelors degree in your lifetime.
GettinMyFill
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia37 Posts
October 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#95
You don't need to jump straight into tertiary education. You can study at any point in time in your lifetime. This is simply an average 'pro-gamer' realising that he is never going to make it, so he returns to his normal life, before forcefield exploitation garnered him some kind of internet fame.
GettinMyFill
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia37 Posts
October 04 2011 03:39 GMT
#96
On October 04 2011 12:34 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:13 RajaF wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:41 Sub40APM wrote:
i wish i could re-do college. Wasting the best 4 years of your life playing a video game, even a fun one, is a terrible decision for most people.


If I was in Cruncher's position, I would of stayed with Complexity since they were paying him decent money to do something that he clearly loves. You can go to college at any age as long as you are still motivated and able to study.

I am a bit bitter about this subject, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

But I'll say that I went to university (and a pretty prestigious institution too, namely the university of toronto) and college before that, got good grades and good experience, and all I have to show for it is a lot of debt. Most certainly a waste of time and money, not a doubt in my mind.

Unless you go to Harvard or some Ivy league school with really small class sizes and almost guaranteed employment at graduation (in which case you are rich anyway), then you will be entering the workforce at the same time as another 200 - 400 people in the same field just from your school, in just that year. And unemployment is on the rise right now. Think about that. And I'm not talking about English majors. I'm in computer science.

80% of the people that graduated with me and that I went to classes with are now unemployed (and can't get a decent job because they are overqualified) or employed in an unrelated field which they most of the time hate being in.

I myself work in a computer store as a technician, using skills that I had when I was 19, that I did not need to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get and be useless. But hey, I can program an awesome content management system in my spare time, since no one is willing to pay me even minimum wage to do it.


Just because you haven't translated your U of T degree into a decent living doesn't mean that university is stupid.

I went to university, and I make many times more money than I'd likely have been able to make had I not gone. I'm not saying that my experience, or this posters, is what YOU'RE going to get, but I beg of you 16-18 year olds.....TAKE RajaF's POST FOR WHAT IT IS....the cries of someone who didn't make the best of a rare opportunity to get a great education.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77

You're going to make about 60% more money on average with a bachelors degree in your lifetime.


I see that university propaganda has brainwashed you. Best of luck.
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
October 04 2011 03:42 GMT
#97
On October 04 2011 12:34 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 12:13 RajaF wrote:
On October 04 2011 11:41 Sub40APM wrote:
i wish i could re-do college. Wasting the best 4 years of your life playing a video game, even a fun one, is a terrible decision for most people.


If I was in Cruncher's position, I would of stayed with Complexity since they were paying him decent money to do something that he clearly loves. You can go to college at any age as long as you are still motivated and able to study.

I am a bit bitter about this subject, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

But I'll say that I went to university (and a pretty prestigious institution too, namely the university of toronto) and college before that, got good grades and good experience, and all I have to show for it is a lot of debt. Most certainly a waste of time and money, not a doubt in my mind.

Unless you go to Harvard or some Ivy league school with really small class sizes and almost guaranteed employment at graduation (in which case you are rich anyway), then you will be entering the workforce at the same time as another 200 - 400 people in the same field just from your school, in just that year. And unemployment is on the rise right now. Think about that. And I'm not talking about English majors. I'm in computer science.

80% of the people that graduated with me and that I went to classes with are now unemployed (and can't get a decent job because they are overqualified) or employed in an unrelated field which they most of the time hate being in.

I myself work in a computer store as a technician, using skills that I had when I was 19, that I did not need to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get and be useless. But hey, I can program an awesome content management system in my spare time, since no one is willing to pay me even minimum wage to do it.


Just because you haven't translated your U of T degree into a decent living doesn't mean that university is stupid.

I went to university, and I make many times more money than I'd likely have been able to make had I not gone. I'm not saying that my experience, or this posters, is what YOU'RE going to get, but I beg of you 16-18 year olds.....TAKE RajaF's POST FOR WHAT IT IS....the cries of someone who didn't make the best of a rare opportunity to get a great education.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=77

You're going to make about 60% more money on average with a bachelors degree in your lifetime.

In this economic climate, you would be lucky to even find a job with just a bachelors degree.
to live is to suffer
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 04 2011 03:42 GMT
#98
On October 04 2011 12:37 GettinMyFill wrote:
You don't need to jump straight into tertiary education. You can study at any point in time in your lifetime. This is simply an average 'pro-gamer' realising that he is never going to make it, so he returns to his normal life, before forcefield exploitation garnered him some kind of internet fame.


This reminds me of the question that young baseball prospects have. They can either sign with a pro organization out of high-school, forfeit NCAA eligibility, and get a cash bonus (which can be millions for high high picks), or go to college on a full ride. For the blue chip guys, there is no decision at all.....if they sign and get 250,000K, they can always go to school and use that money to pay for college later on.

The situation for gamers is more similar to a late round pick, who is getting little or no signing bonus. By the time that their career is over, they may be saddled with other debts and responsibilities that make going to school at the age of 23-26 much tougher than it would have been at 18-19.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
October 04 2011 03:42 GMT
#99
Can't fault anyone for wanting to continue their studies. Best of luck to Cruncher in his education, and hopefully we'll see him back sometime!
Jieun <3
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 04 2011 03:43 GMT
#100
On October 04 2011 12:42 daxile wrote:
In this economic climate, you would be lucky to even find a job with just a bachelors degree.

So what chance does someone without one have?
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 17 18 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft268
SpeCial 90
JuggernautJason35
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 705
Artosis 656
ProTech183
Mini 164
Dota 2
syndereN570
monkeys_forever393
League of Legends
Doublelift4823
Other Games
summit1g6094
FrodaN600
shahzam490
C9.Mang0300
Pyrionflax138
Maynarde94
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick862
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 102
• musti20045 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra718
Other Games
• imaqtpie975
• Shiphtur584
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
55m
The PondCast
10h 25m
Kung Fu Cup
11h 25m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 11h
Reynor vs Zoun
Neeb vs Rogue
FEL
3 days
Patches Events
3 days
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
FEL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.