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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 04 2011 03:44 GMT
#101
On October 04 2011 11:46 FrankWalls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 11:34 MilesTeg wrote:
Gotta admit, it's weird for me too to see peope with the sad face after the announcement that he leaves. I mean... do people really think he was any good? I think he was more known because of that idra incident than anything else.

Besides, I remember him stating he doesn't like Stacraft so it's no one's loss really.


the sad face is a reference to his infamous happy face


(:


Plus...he was actually quite good. People only thought he was bad because after he qualified for TSL Idra said he was trash and what Idra says tends to stick for some reason. Even after Cruncher beat Idra himself, Mondragon, went 3-2 with Naniwa, beat players like QXC, Ensnare and Darkforce in NASL, made it into pool play in MLG...
GettinMyFill
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia37 Posts
October 04 2011 03:44 GMT
#102
On October 04 2011 12:42 Zorkmid wrote:
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On October 04 2011 12:37 GettinMyFill wrote:
You don't need to jump straight into tertiary education. You can study at any point in time in your lifetime. This is simply an average 'pro-gamer' realising that he is never going to make it, so he returns to his normal life, before forcefield exploitation garnered him some kind of internet fame.


This reminds me of the question that young baseball prospects have. They can either sign with a pro organization out of high-school, forfeit NCAA eligibility, and get a cash bonus (which can be millions for high high picks), or go to college on a full ride. For the blue chip guys, there is no decision at all.....if they sign and get 250,000K, they can always go to school and use that money to pay for college later on.

The situation for gamers is more similar to a late round pick, who is getting little or no signing bonus. By the time that their career is over, they may be saddled with other debts and responsibilities that make going to school at the age of 23-26 much tougher than it would have been at 18-19.


So study part-time while you gain experience and working your way through other jobs. That is the sacrifice you make if you want to do anything seriously, any sport, any hobby, any creative art you want to master. No passion? It's okay, you can just study and become a cog in the machine.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#103
anyone know where crunchtime is going to college?
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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 04 2011 03:46 GMT
#104
For the school vs esports thing...life is an adventure, why would anyone pass up the chance to fly around the world playing a game in front of crowds for big money? I doubt anyone is gonna sit on their deathbeds all like 'Man I wish I never had all that fun doing that awesome thing.'
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
October 04 2011 03:52 GMT
#105
Somewhere, Idra's smiling
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 03:55:52
October 04 2011 03:53 GMT
#106
On October 04 2011 12:46 The KY wrote:
For the school vs esports thing...life is an adventure, why would anyone pass up the chance to fly around the world playing a game in front of crowds for big money? I doubt anyone is gonna sit on their deathbeds all like 'Man I wish I never had all that fun doing that awesome thing.'


Exactly man. More people should be thinking like you. Cruncher is not even 20. The world is his oyster, he can try and fail at anything he wants. Being a progamer is exactly the kind of thing you try when you are at this age otherwise he will regret it forever.

On October 04 2011 12:43 Zorkmid wrote:
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On October 04 2011 12:42 daxile wrote:
In this economic climate, you would be lucky to even find a job with just a bachelors degree.

So what chance does someone without one have?


Quite good actually, since most companies these days would rather higher unqualified help since they can pay them less.

And to your earlier post I'll say hahaha. OK then. You know exactly what I was able and not able to do with my degree right? Just because I was unwilling to sell my life and liberty to a soul sucking entity like IBM (for which I worked for in my paid experience year) does not mean I was unable to translate my degree into a decent living.

And how do you know how I live? I bet that besides the money (which, I'll tell you a secret, you can't spend it once you are old or dead) your "career" sucks more than my job. I work exactly 8 hours a day, not a minute of overtime ever, have full health and dental, and (the big one) I get 5 weeks vacation a year. You show me one of your bachelor degree positions like that outside of academia.

And not to mention that once you are climbing the corporate ladder, there are 100 other guys right behind you just waiting for the slightest mistake to take your spot and knock you down.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
October 04 2011 03:54 GMT
#107
On October 04 2011 12:52 GGTesomas wrote:
Somewhere, Idra's smiling

Guangzhou, China.
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
October 04 2011 04:00 GMT
#108
where did all the cruncher hate go?
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:32:33
October 04 2011 04:04 GMT
#109
I posted on this thread but later I changed my mind and erased it, just because I know that a simple post wouldn't change much, But then, someone PMed me and reminded me that maybe one post could make a difference.
Why did we boo him on the MLG stage... ? why ? Who is Idra? Why would we bash a person, that is, a professional player who helps our community just to show our support for someone else?
Maybe, if we acted like humans with brains and emotions and unlike animals and showed him some support he wouldn't have left our community as easy.
Why is Idra getting so much support? he would do what he did to cruncher to each and everyone of us if he didn't "like" us or the race we play...
Lets build a community that praises the best, most hardworking people and punished the unappreciative.
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 04:27:05
October 04 2011 04:26 GMT
#110
On October 04 2011 13:04 Theeakoz wrote:
I posted on this thread but later I changed my mind and erased it, just because I know that a simple post wouldn't change much, But then, someone PMed me and reminded me that maybe one post could make a difference.
Why did we boo him on the MLG stage... ? why ? Who is Idra? Why would we bash a person, that is, a professional player who helps our community just to show our support for someone else?
Maybe, if we acted like humans with brains and emotions and unlike animals and showed him some support he wouldn't have left our community as easy.
Why is Idra getting so much support? he would do what he did to cruncher to each and everyone of us if he did "like" us or the race we play...
Lets build a community that praises the best, most hardworking people and punished the unappreciative.


This man right here speaks the truth. This is most likely why Cruncher quit, because all the vitriol from one person (Idra) was channeled by a big part of this so called community. We should all be a bit ashamed we let this happen.
seoulsun
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands80 Posts
October 04 2011 04:29 GMT
#111
lol why would he even bother
o/
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 04:35:31
October 04 2011 04:34 GMT
#112
I support anyone who pursues a higher education for himself, whatever his reasons may be.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
October 04 2011 04:45 GMT
#113
On October 04 2011 10:03 Pocketsocks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:02 Corrosive wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:01 Bagi wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:00 Ruscour wrote:

Not that big of a loss for coL though, they're not exactly lacking for talent.

They've got Naniwa and thats pretty much it.

trimaster? minigun?

Don't forget DRG and all the other MVP members through the partnership they have.

Serously? no one mentions KiwiKaki?
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Saiton
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden467 Posts
October 04 2011 04:46 GMT
#114
Can't see why more people can't just be here to wish Cruncher good luck with his studie instead of starting to bash him about leaving.

GL to you!
Top diamond terran streaming at http://www.twitch.tv/saitontv
Soulriser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 04:54:07
October 04 2011 04:50 GMT
#115
lol. giving up the opportunity of a lifetime to train as a progamer for college? sorry sir, best of luck to you, but i think its stupid. you can always go to college later, but you pretty much only get 1 shot for something like this. "oh i think ill pass playing professional sports or producing a huge movie so i can get a degree that probably wont mean shit by the time i eventually get it" makes no sense, and neither does this.

also, if hes quitting because IdrA fans poked fun at him and IdrA doesnt like him, then he doesnt deserve to be a progamer. if you cant handle being criticized, your name doesnt deserve to be spotlighted.
Audi309
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
October 04 2011 04:50 GMT
#116
Best CSL team ever incoming
Diablo3
Profile Joined October 2011
46 Posts
October 04 2011 05:00 GMT
#117
On October 04 2011 10:03 Pocketsocks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:02 Corrosive wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:01 Bagi wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:00 Ruscour wrote:

Not that big of a loss for coL though, they're not exactly lacking for talent.

They've got Naniwa and thats pretty much it.

trimaster? minigun?

Don't forget DRG and all the other MVP members through the partnership they have.

yeah, but they don't have real members of their team. Its only Naniwa and the rest are truth be told quite mediocre pro players with no significant achievement in tournaments.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
October 04 2011 05:00 GMT
#118
On October 04 2011 13:04 Theeakoz wrote:
I posted on this thread but later I changed my mind and erased it, just because I know that a simple post wouldn't change much, But then, someone PMed me and reminded me that maybe one post could make a difference.
Why did we boo him on the MLG stage... ? why ? Who is Idra? Why would we bash a person, that is, a professional player who helps our community just to show our support for someone else?
Maybe, if we acted like humans with brains and emotions and unlike animals and showed him some support he wouldn't have left our community as easy.
Why is Idra getting so much support? he would do what he did to cruncher to each and everyone of us if he did "like" us or the race we play...
Lets build a community that praises the best, most hardworking people and punished the unappreciative.

completely agree with you. I was there at MLG Anaheim and ppl boo Cruncher when IdrA was the guy who trashtalked and walked ago. Idk why ppl really like that dick and bm Cruncher for no reason. Just b/c Cruncher beat their Zerg's heroes and playing Protoss, so they're being that bad.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:02:44
October 04 2011 05:01 GMT
#119
On October 04 2011 10:09 AutomatonOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:05 Papulatus wrote:
Looks like IdrA was right about Cruncher falling off the scene... lol...

On a more serious note, I can't imagine how hard it must be to be a progamer while in college. Last night on RedBull LAN QXC said a little about how hard it is and how "life basically sucks" trying to balance the two.

Good luck to Cruncher even if I lost 3 times to his cannon rush cheese on the ladder!


Lol fucking right. Idra said once the balance swung out of Protoss' favor, Cruncher would make a quiet exit, and here it is. <3


This is the reason why I hate majority of IdrA fans - they are even bigger douchebags than IdrA himself. Oh well, birds of a feather....

All the best to cruncher for his college. I'm quiet sure he has made the right decision.
Envy fan since NTH.
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
October 04 2011 05:08 GMT
#120
On October 04 2011 13:45 dapierow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:03 Pocketsocks wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:02 Corrosive wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:01 Bagi wrote:
On October 04 2011 10:00 Ruscour wrote:

Not that big of a loss for coL though, they're not exactly lacking for talent.

They've got Naniwa and thats pretty much it.

trimaster? minigun?

Don't forget DRG and all the other MVP members through the partnership they have.

Serously? no one mentions KiwiKaki?


He's on Reign, not coL.MVP
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