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Fish_Baguettes
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:47 jyLee wrote: Your friend is retarded sorry. ForGG won a starleague. He used to be a very solid A-class player and was just a better bw player compared to MVP. There is no doubt that ForGG is the very best bw player to switch over to sc2 currently. What about Nada? He won like 6 starleagues right? This kind of talk is useless, there isn't a true active "A" teamer that has switched over yet from BW (someone like Stats, Zero, Jaedong, Jangbi, etc) that was still in his prime when he switched. However, MVP is probably the closest we got to that. | ||
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
i am very sad. i don't like this, or want it. why?  | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:47 jyLee wrote: Your friend is retarded sorry. ForGG won a starleague. He used to be a very solid A-class player and was just a better bw player compared to MVP. There is no doubt that ForGG is the very best bw player to switch over to sc2 currently. This is true. My friend said ForGG is more accomplished than MVP, but at the time of both of them leaving bw, MVP was slightly better. He said after his 2008 title win, he kind of fell off and became a middling player for a middling team. Compared it to fruit dealer's decline although nowhere near as drastic. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:52 Whiplash wrote: What about Nada? He won like 6 starleagues right? This kind of talk is useless, there isn't a true active "A" teamer that has switched over yet from BW (someone like Stats, Zero, Jaedong, Jangbi, etc) that was still in his prime when he switched. However, MVP is probably the closest we got to that. Is Jaedong really considered to be just A class now? Does that mean S-class is just Flash? Though you're right, everyone who has switched I wouldn't consider A class at the time. | ||
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:56 ZeaL. wrote: Is Jaedong really considered to be just A class now? Does that mean S-class is just Flash? Though you're right, everyone who has switched I wouldn't consider A class at the time. i don't think he meant it like that lol forgg was an a team because he was not on the b team. That means something, even though he maybe didn't play on tv so much near the end of his career. | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:52 Whiplash wrote: What about Nada? He won like 6 starleagues right? This kind of talk is useless, there isn't a true active "A" teamer that has switched over yet from BW (someone like Stats, Zero, Jaedong, Jangbi, etc) that was still in his prime when he switched. However, MVP is probably the closest we got to that. Actually ForGG was an active A-teamer of the modern era who was better than MVP even at the time of retiring. Nada won his last SL in 2006 before the modern era (post-savior) started. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:55 TheNessman wrote: anyone who is comparing mvp to forgg you can actually just ignore, because it's clear they didn't watch either player when they played bw. There is no argument between smart people here. Well the problem is people are comparing someone's entire career and history instead of comparing their play at the time of leaving bw. Smart people know at the time both left bw, mvp and forgg were at a similar level. | ||
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Zaxro
United States261 Posts
As has been proven numerous times in BW, players who were once top leval always have the potential to get back to that level after even the deepest slump(Nada, Fantasy, Jangbi, Stork, Julyzerg, Effort, Bisu) and I always hoped to see the same from ForGG in BW. Hopefully he has big success in SC2 and I'm glad to see he joined oGs (my favorite Korean SC2 team). | ||
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Kroml
Turkey308 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:56 ZeaL. wrote: Is Jaedong really considered to be just A class now? Does that mean S-class is just Flash? Though you're right, everyone who has switched I wouldn't consider A class at the time. A-teamer and A-class are different things btw. You can be S-class and A-teamer (Jaedong, Flash, Bisu etc..). Just wanted to point it out. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:59 Kroml. wrote: A-teamer and A-class are different things btw. You can be S-class and A-teamer (Jaedong, Flash, Bisu etc..). Just wanted to point it out. Oh my bad, misread it -_- | ||
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Deleted User 183001
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On September 30 2011 14:53 VirgilSC2 wrote: How come we don't see any Starcraft 64 Professionals switching over to Starcraft 2? This made me lol really hard. That was the first time I played StarCraft and I actually liked it quite a bit at first. Then I got Age of Empires 2 for the computer, and I thought SC was just a sack of shit and I didn't care about it, thanks to SC 64. Then came 2005-2006, and I find out BW is actually super awesome and is a pretty big deal... Well, that's what happens when you don't have much access to the Internet until you're 14, and your elementary school friends either didn't game too much or played random console games or RPGs. :'( | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:55 Canucklehead wrote: This is true. My friend said ForGG is more accomplished than MVP, but at the time of both of them leaving bw, MVP was slightly better. He said after his 2008 title win, he kind of fell off and became a middling player for a middling team. Compared it to fruit dealer's decline although nowhere near as drastic. Weird thing to say considering how forgg qualified for the Ro8 in the MSL more recently than MVP did, although admittedly MVP's kill list (Bogus, Effort twice, Best, Stork, Baby, 1-3 vs Flash) was more impressive than forgg's (Puzzle [yes that one], July, Zero, Hogil, Free, hero, 0-3 to Flash). | ||
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Deleted User 183001
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On September 30 2011 15:07 red4ce wrote: Weird thing to say considering how forgg qualified for the Ro8 in the MSL more recently than MVP did, although admittedly MVP's kill list (Bogus, Effort twice, Best, Stork, Baby, 1-3 vs Flash) was more impressive than forgg's (Puzzle [yes that one], July, Zero, Hogil, Free, hero, 0-3 to Flash). The hidden moral of the story is that everyone dies to Flash, right? | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On September 30 2011 15:09 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: The hidden moral of the story is that everyone dies to Flash, right? except for Jangbi. | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:59 reincremate wrote: Actually ForGG was an active A-teamer of the modern era who was better than MVP even at the time of retiring. Nada won his last SL in 2006 before the modern era (post-savior) started. Yeah, keep in mind that ForGG was an integral part of KT at the time he retired, back in January. He was hugely important to their run to the finals in the 09-10 Proleague season, but had been slumping since the start of 10-11. Still, he was getting played most matches, and KT's line was really hurt when he left. Easily the best BW player to switch so far. MVP might have become better had he not switched, but ForGG was an accomplished player in a prolonged slump, whereas MVP was a newly rising potential star. | ||
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scarper65
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On September 30 2011 15:05 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: This made me lol really hard. That was the first time I played StarCraft and I actually liked it quite a bit at first. Then I got Age of Empires 2 for the computer, and I thought SC was just a sack of shit and I didn't care about it, thanks to SC 64. Then came 2005-2006, and I find out BW is actually super awesome and is a pretty big deal... Well, that's what happens when you don't have much access to the Internet until you're 14, and your elementary school friends either didn't game too much or played random console games or RPGs. :'( My plan is to take my friends N64 and copy of StarCraft 64 to IPL 3 in Atlantic City and try to convince some pro's to play it. | ||
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