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Shorty90
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany154 Posts
September 29 2011 07:14 GMT
#41
To be honest, Zerg was nerfed without any mistakes, which is pitiable (laughs).


I don't get that sentence.
I can't believe I ate the whole thing.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
September 29 2011 07:19 GMT
#42
On September 29 2011 16:14 Shorty90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
To be honest, Zerg was nerfed without any mistakes, which is pitiable (laughs).


I don't get that sentence.


I think he meant that they didn't deserve to get nerfed.

Rooting for Sangho, felt so bad for him after what happened in BW...
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
September 29 2011 07:24 GMT
#43
On September 29 2011 16:08 jinixxx123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 15:34 blade55555 wrote:
On September 29 2011 13:58 jinixxx123 wrote:
hmm, the killer comments were a bit weird, first he says 111 didnt get solved, yet mvp tails displayed this to not be the case when immvp failed it against him on the best map for it. And then his easy 2:0 over the greatest terran vs protoss player ( polt) meant nothing? Then he pretends as if terran is the reason protoss is doing bad when zergs clean up the current S level toss's like no tomorrow.


lets do a recap shall we, Puzzle lost because he made horrible blunders, Genius lost because he made a terrible blunder of fighting in bunkers , Just meh.. Just wait till better protoss such as sage get into code S , they will make killers comments look dumb , asking for a drink with david kim hahaa


really zergs have been cleaing up protosses? unless I am mistaken its 3-1 favoring zerg in Code S pvz. Yeah didn't realize that took down 4 tosses and the zergs that won were completely terrible and should not have beaten the protoss players they beat.

+ Show Spoiler +
DRG > Genius, Losira > hongun, Huk > Zenio, July > Hongun


On a note liked the interviews and was really happy to see DRG make ro16 really hope that he makes it far or wins he's definitely in my top 3 of favorite zergs



dude, you are referring to 1 day of matches, since when protoss has been struggling for 1 day? As its well known protoss been struggling for quite a while now. When terrans took all the blame for erradicating the protoss's, the zergs were doing it silently also .

-mc loves to whine against terran, but you know who knocked him out of the gsl completely? a no creep spreading zerg by the name of monster ,yet in complete fucking hypocrisy you see no complaints of imba because everybody is on a terran hate bandwagon. Mc also looses pretty fucking badly to Losira in arena of legends. The dude is just bad right now, but the loyalists will rather site imba

-naniwa loves to whine against terran, however in both his CODE A attempts, you know what race knocked him out ? zerg... hahahaha didnt even play a terran... Lets see Fruitdealer raped him last code A, and fxo lucky raped him the season before, both code A invites down the drain to zerg players


lets look at other protoss players, Hongun/killer/alicia ... hongun ever since the start has been known as a cheesing player, he loves his void rays, Alicia started off good, but after that rape from losira (0:2) hes never been the same, he got fucking knocked out by Tod pvp at mlg, he lost to select gosu micro, but ofcourse his demise is not because of bad play but because of imba.
clearly we have protoss pros playing.


Then you even make a point as to say DRG isnt suppose to loose to those toss players anyway? which proves my point, the current code S toss representation is BAD players, They are good but when they meet anybody with a name they are supposed to loose regardless of whether they are playing against a terran or Zerg, And tthats my point, Zerg has been secretly eradicating them also, yet terran takes all the blame.

the fact is, The new up and coming protoss's are way better than the toss's currently in code S. I'd save my balance opinions until these guys make it to code S. Likewise blizzard seems to be on point, Waiting it out first before any real action.

You are completely irrational. Protoss has been defeating Zerg just as much as Zerg has been defeating Protoss this season. Winrate 48.5%. You clearly don't watch the up and down matches where 3 different Terrans do the 1/1/1 to the P players and win every single game. Cite me a game where a Protoss player severely outplayed the Zerg player but lost due to imba. The current reason there are no Protoss in Code S are because the Terrans win every single up and down group. There is a reason JYP has failed in up and down and it isn't Zerg.

As it currently stands, Protoss and Zerg players have won equal amounts this GSL, so I would suggest you be quiet on your uneducated opinion.
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 07:36:42
September 29 2011 07:32 GMT
#44
On September 29 2011 16:24 Micket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 16:08 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 29 2011 15:34 blade55555 wrote:
On September 29 2011 13:58 jinixxx123 wrote:
hmm, the killer comments were a bit weird, first he says 111 didnt get solved, yet mvp tails displayed this to not be the case when immvp failed it against him on the best map for it. And then his easy 2:0 over the greatest terran vs protoss player ( polt) meant nothing? Then he pretends as if terran is the reason protoss is doing bad when zergs clean up the current S level toss's like no tomorrow.


lets do a recap shall we, Puzzle lost because he made horrible blunders, Genius lost because he made a terrible blunder of fighting in bunkers , Just meh.. Just wait till better protoss such as sage get into code S , they will make killers comments look dumb , asking for a drink with david kim hahaa


really zergs have been cleaing up protosses? unless I am mistaken its 3-1 favoring zerg in Code S pvz. Yeah didn't realize that took down 4 tosses and the zergs that won were completely terrible and should not have beaten the protoss players they beat.

+ Show Spoiler +
DRG > Genius, Losira > hongun, Huk > Zenio, July > Hongun


On a note liked the interviews and was really happy to see DRG make ro16 really hope that he makes it far or wins he's definitely in my top 3 of favorite zergs



dude, you are referring to 1 day of matches, since when protoss has been struggling for 1 day? As its well known protoss been struggling for quite a while now. When terrans took all the blame for erradicating the protoss's, the zergs were doing it silently also .

-mc loves to whine against terran, but you know who knocked him out of the gsl completely? a no creep spreading zerg by the name of monster ,yet in complete fucking hypocrisy you see no complaints of imba because everybody is on a terran hate bandwagon. Mc also looses pretty fucking badly to Losira in arena of legends. The dude is just bad right now, but the loyalists will rather site imba

-naniwa loves to whine against terran, however in both his CODE A attempts, you know what race knocked him out ? zerg... hahahaha didnt even play a terran... Lets see Fruitdealer raped him last code A, and fxo lucky raped him the season before, both code A invites down the drain to zerg players


lets look at other protoss players, Hongun/killer/alicia ... hongun ever since the start has been known as a cheesing player, he loves his void rays, Alicia started off good, but after that rape from losira (0:2) hes never been the same, he got fucking knocked out by Tod pvp at mlg, he lost to select gosu micro, but ofcourse his demise is not because of bad play but because of imba.
clearly we have protoss pros playing.


Then you even make a point as to say DRG isnt suppose to loose to those toss players anyway? which proves my point, the current code S toss representation is BAD players, They are good but when they meet anybody with a name they are supposed to loose regardless of whether they are playing against a terran or Zerg, And tthats my point, Zerg has been secretly eradicating them also, yet terran takes all the blame.

the fact is, The new up and coming protoss's are way better than the toss's currently in code S. I'd save my balance opinions until these guys make it to code S. Likewise blizzard seems to be on point, Waiting it out first before any real action.

You are completely irrational. Protoss has been defeating Zerg just as much as Zerg has been defeating Protoss this season. Winrate 48.5%. You clearly don't watch the up and down matches where 3 different Terrans do the 1/1/1 to the P players and win every single game. Cite me a game where a Protoss player severely outplayed the Zerg player but lost due to imba. The current reason there are no Protoss in Code S are because the Terrans win every single up and down group. There is a reason JYP has failed in up and down and it isn't Zerg.

As it currently stands, Protoss and Zerg players have won equal amounts this GSL, so I would suggest you be quiet on your uneducated opinion.



and what is my opinion ? that im lieing when i say the current S level protoss are performing bad? and that im saying protoss is actually doing well this season? ( i mentioned the noticeable wins toss has got this season just a couple posts above) because thats EXACTLY WHAT IM FUCKING SAYING, thanks for proving my point. you bandwagon toss's are just like zergs in the first 2 gsl seasons.. sighting zerg as underpowered yet they win the whole fucking thing. Fruitdealer won season 1 easily, nestea won season 2 easily with only dropping games in the final on imba small maps, yet ofcourse terran is imba then and terran is imba now.

As i said, the current Protoss in code S is not a good indication of judging balance currently ( especially since the latest patch) that protoss is going to be doing bad in the future. I have currently seen much improvement from toss's in general and my whole fucking point is to lessen the whining about this protoss underpowered crap.
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
September 29 2011 07:44 GMT
#45
On September 29 2011 16:19 LuckyMacro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 16:14 Shorty90 wrote:
To be honest, Zerg was nerfed without any mistakes, which is pitiable (laughs).


I don't get that sentence.


I think he meant that they didn't deserve to get nerfed.

Rooting for Sangho, felt so bad for him after what happened in BW...


Hmm I don't think so - the way I interpret it is that he was hoping for zergs to get overnerfed but it didnt, it was nerfed 'just right' (ie no mistakes on blizzards part), thats how I see it from his point of view personally~
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10351 Posts
September 29 2011 07:44 GMT
#46
polt and killer were like rivals, but now they are on the same team xD

Anyways, good luck killer! :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 07:46:42
September 29 2011 07:45 GMT
#47
On September 29 2011 16:32 jinixxx123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 16:24 Micket wrote:
On September 29 2011 16:08 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 29 2011 15:34 blade55555 wrote:
On September 29 2011 13:58 jinixxx123 wrote:
hmm, the killer comments were a bit weird, first he says 111 didnt get solved, yet mvp tails displayed this to not be the case when immvp failed it against him on the best map for it. And then his easy 2:0 over the greatest terran vs protoss player ( polt) meant nothing? Then he pretends as if terran is the reason protoss is doing bad when zergs clean up the current S level toss's like no tomorrow.


lets do a recap shall we, Puzzle lost because he made horrible blunders, Genius lost because he made a terrible blunder of fighting in bunkers , Just meh.. Just wait till better protoss such as sage get into code S , they will make killers comments look dumb , asking for a drink with david kim hahaa


really zergs have been cleaing up protosses? unless I am mistaken its 3-1 favoring zerg in Code S pvz. Yeah didn't realize that took down 4 tosses and the zergs that won were completely terrible and should not have beaten the protoss players they beat.

+ Show Spoiler +
DRG > Genius, Losira > hongun, Huk > Zenio, July > Hongun


On a note liked the interviews and was really happy to see DRG make ro16 really hope that he makes it far or wins he's definitely in my top 3 of favorite zergs



dude, you are referring to 1 day of matches, since when protoss has been struggling for 1 day? As its well known protoss been struggling for quite a while now. When terrans took all the blame for erradicating the protoss's, the zergs were doing it silently also .

-mc loves to whine against terran, but you know who knocked him out of the gsl completely? a no creep spreading zerg by the name of monster ,yet in complete fucking hypocrisy you see no complaints of imba because everybody is on a terran hate bandwagon. Mc also looses pretty fucking badly to Losira in arena of legends. The dude is just bad right now, but the loyalists will rather site imba

-naniwa loves to whine against terran, however in both his CODE A attempts, you know what race knocked him out ? zerg... hahahaha didnt even play a terran... Lets see Fruitdealer raped him last code A, and fxo lucky raped him the season before, both code A invites down the drain to zerg players


lets look at other protoss players, Hongun/killer/alicia ... hongun ever since the start has been known as a cheesing player, he loves his void rays, Alicia started off good, but after that rape from losira (0:2) hes never been the same, he got fucking knocked out by Tod pvp at mlg, he lost to select gosu micro, but ofcourse his demise is not because of bad play but because of imba.
clearly we have protoss pros playing.


Then you even make a point as to say DRG isnt suppose to loose to those toss players anyway? which proves my point, the current code S toss representation is BAD players, They are good but when they meet anybody with a name they are supposed to loose regardless of whether they are playing against a terran or Zerg, And tthats my point, Zerg has been secretly eradicating them also, yet terran takes all the blame.

the fact is, The new up and coming protoss's are way better than the toss's currently in code S. I'd save my balance opinions until these guys make it to code S. Likewise blizzard seems to be on point, Waiting it out first before any real action.

You are completely irrational. Protoss has been defeating Zerg just as much as Zerg has been defeating Protoss this season. Winrate 48.5%. You clearly don't watch the up and down matches where 3 different Terrans do the 1/1/1 to the P players and win every single game. Cite me a game where a Protoss player severely outplayed the Zerg player but lost due to imba. The current reason there are no Protoss in Code S are because the Terrans win every single up and down group. There is a reason JYP has failed in up and down and it isn't Zerg.

As it currently stands, Protoss and Zerg players have won equal amounts this GSL, so I would suggest you be quiet on your uneducated opinion.



and what is my opinion ? that im lieing when i say the current S level protoss are performing bad? and that im saying protoss is actually doing well this season? ( i mentioned the noticeable wins toss has got this season just a couple posts above) because thats EXACTLY WHAT IM FUCKING SAYING, thanks for proving my point. you bandwagon toss's are just like zergs in the first 2 gsl seasons.. sighting zerg as underpowered yet they win the whole fucking thing. Fruitdealer won season 1 easily, nestea won season 2 easily with only dropping games in the final on imba small maps, yet ofcourse terran is imba then and terran is imba now.

As i said, the current Protoss in code S is not a good indication of judging balance currently ( especially since the latest patch) that protoss is going to be doing bad in the future. I have currently seen much improvement from toss's in general and my whole fucking point is to lessen the whining about this protoss underpowered crap.


I am starting to think you mis read my post or either didn't inherit the sarcasm for the post I quoted. The guy I quoted was saying how bad protoss is for pvz and how every protoss was getting knocked out by zergs in code S when in reality its almost all by terran. I wasn't even talking very much about balance but to judge imba on 4 zvp games in code S is just lol when as someone said the win/loss ratio for pvz is 48.something % zerg favore so 52 vs 48 really isn't anywhere near as bad as the person I quoted makes it sound (also off of a very small sample of 4 games!)
When I think of something else, something will go here
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 08:05:33
September 29 2011 07:57 GMT
#48
On September 29 2011 16:45 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 16:32 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 29 2011 16:24 Micket wrote:
On September 29 2011 16:08 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 29 2011 15:34 blade55555 wrote:
On September 29 2011 13:58 jinixxx123 wrote:
hmm, the killer comments were a bit weird, first he says 111 didnt get solved, yet mvp tails displayed this to not be the case when immvp failed it against him on the best map for it. And then his easy 2:0 over the greatest terran vs protoss player ( polt) meant nothing? Then he pretends as if terran is the reason protoss is doing bad when zergs clean up the current S level toss's like no tomorrow.


lets do a recap shall we, Puzzle lost because he made horrible blunders, Genius lost because he made a terrible blunder of fighting in bunkers , Just meh.. Just wait till better protoss such as sage get into code S , they will make killers comments look dumb , asking for a drink with david kim hahaa


really zergs have been cleaing up protosses? unless I am mistaken its 3-1 favoring zerg in Code S pvz. Yeah didn't realize that took down 4 tosses and the zergs that won were completely terrible and should not have beaten the protoss players they beat.

+ Show Spoiler +
DRG > Genius, Losira > hongun, Huk > Zenio, July > Hongun


On a note liked the interviews and was really happy to see DRG make ro16 really hope that he makes it far or wins he's definitely in my top 3 of favorite zergs



dude, you are referring to 1 day of matches, since when protoss has been struggling for 1 day? As its well known protoss been struggling for quite a while now. When terrans took all the blame for erradicating the protoss's, the zergs were doing it silently also .

-mc loves to whine against terran, but you know who knocked him out of the gsl completely? a no creep spreading zerg by the name of monster ,yet in complete fucking hypocrisy you see no complaints of imba because everybody is on a terran hate bandwagon. Mc also looses pretty fucking badly to Losira in arena of legends. The dude is just bad right now, but the loyalists will rather site imba

-naniwa loves to whine against terran, however in both his CODE A attempts, you know what race knocked him out ? zerg... hahahaha didnt even play a terran... Lets see Fruitdealer raped him last code A, and fxo lucky raped him the season before, both code A invites down the drain to zerg players


lets look at other protoss players, Hongun/killer/alicia ... hongun ever since the start has been known as a cheesing player, he loves his void rays, Alicia started off good, but after that rape from losira (0:2) hes never been the same, he got fucking knocked out by Tod pvp at mlg, he lost to select gosu micro, but ofcourse his demise is not because of bad play but because of imba.
clearly we have protoss pros playing.


Then you even make a point as to say DRG isnt suppose to loose to those toss players anyway? which proves my point, the current code S toss representation is BAD players, They are good but when they meet anybody with a name they are supposed to loose regardless of whether they are playing against a terran or Zerg, And tthats my point, Zerg has been secretly eradicating them also, yet terran takes all the blame.

the fact is, The new up and coming protoss's are way better than the toss's currently in code S. I'd save my balance opinions until these guys make it to code S. Likewise blizzard seems to be on point, Waiting it out first before any real action.

You are completely irrational. Protoss has been defeating Zerg just as much as Zerg has been defeating Protoss this season. Winrate 48.5%. You clearly don't watch the up and down matches where 3 different Terrans do the 1/1/1 to the P players and win every single game. Cite me a game where a Protoss player severely outplayed the Zerg player but lost due to imba. The current reason there are no Protoss in Code S are because the Terrans win every single up and down group. There is a reason JYP has failed in up and down and it isn't Zerg.

As it currently stands, Protoss and Zerg players have won equal amounts this GSL, so I would suggest you be quiet on your uneducated opinion.



and what is my opinion ? that im lieing when i say the current S level protoss are performing bad? and that im saying protoss is actually doing well this season? ( i mentioned the noticeable wins toss has got this season just a couple posts above) because thats EXACTLY WHAT IM FUCKING SAYING, thanks for proving my point. you bandwagon toss's are just like zergs in the first 2 gsl seasons.. sighting zerg as underpowered yet they win the whole fucking thing. Fruitdealer won season 1 easily, nestea won season 2 easily with only dropping games in the final on imba small maps, yet ofcourse terran is imba then and terran is imba now.

As i said, the current Protoss in code S is not a good indication of judging balance currently ( especially since the latest patch) that protoss is going to be doing bad in the future. I have currently seen much improvement from toss's in general and my whole fucking point is to lessen the whining about this protoss underpowered crap.


I am starting to think you mis read my post or either didn't inherit the sarcasm for the post I quoted. The guy I quoted was saying how bad protoss is for pvz and how every protoss was getting knocked out by zergs in code S when in reality its almost all by terran. I wasn't even talking very much about balance but to judge imba on 4 zvp games in code S is just lol when as someone said the win/loss ratio for pvz is 48.something % zerg favore so 52 vs 48 really isn't anywhere near as bad as the person I quoted makes it sound (also off of a very small sample of 4 games!)



yea and your also mistaking my comment about protoss's loosing to zergs alot but you only want to sight the most recent code A season when this has been going on for much longer than that, The fact is terrans meet up toss's way more in general because there are way more terrans, but when zergs meet up the protoss's they simply do not loose ( and again im refering to previous seasons)


another LOLER point i will like show is the demise of MC, this trend had started long ago where he was loosing alot ( Mc citing reasons as not going to many foreign tournaments to catch up on practice because even he noticed he was not performing up to par)


Lets see, for previous gsl's he lost to Alica and Hongun which knocked him out of 2 gsl seasons( alica knocked him out of super tournament, hongun knocked him out of the previous season before this) yet when he meets up a terran ( of his own choice, he choose mvp) then ofcourse once he looses terran is imba yet when he got knocked out of gsl by alica it wasnt because of imba and then when he got knocked out of gsl by hongun it wasnt because of imba and when hes knocked out of the gsl Completely by monster( a zerg) and Ofcourse when MC looses, it means All protoss's loose hope. Lets be frank around here please, ever since mc started loosing to basically everybody this protoss bandwagon started because hes the so-called protoss president . If he looses it means shit is imba.

I will tell you whats the problem, To much toss's copied the suicide toss to the core( MC) and are now paying the price for such risky builds because yes infact Mc pioneered alot of these builds, but likewise because MC has fallen, it should be of clear indication that his builds could not stand the test of time and that the New protoss's on the block ( sage,jyp,hero) are the new talent up & coming.


up to now i havent heard of any terran that didnt deserve to win his up & downs that you want to sight imbalance for
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 29 2011 08:04 GMT
#49
On September 29 2011 16:44 Zealot Lord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 16:19 LuckyMacro wrote:
On September 29 2011 16:14 Shorty90 wrote:
To be honest, Zerg was nerfed without any mistakes, which is pitiable (laughs).


I don't get that sentence.


I think he meant that they didn't deserve to get nerfed.

Rooting for Sangho, felt so bad for him after what happened in BW...


Hmm I don't think so - the way I interpret it is that he was hoping for zergs to get overnerfed but it didnt, it was nerfed 'just right' (ie no mistakes on blizzards part), thats how I see it from his point of view personally~

It seems pretty clear to me he means zerg shouldn't have been nerfed. Who else would he be pittying? it read like "zerg weren't actually doing anything OP like the terrans were but they got nerfed anyways, i pitty them" to me.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 08:22:18
September 29 2011 08:21 GMT
#50
On September 29 2011 16:57 jinixxx123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 16:45 blade55555 wrote:
On September 29 2011 16:32 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 29 2011 16:24 Micket wrote:
On September 29 2011 16:08 jinixxx123 wrote:
On September 29 2011 15:34 blade55555 wrote:
On September 29 2011 13:58 jinixxx123 wrote:
hmm, the killer comments were a bit weird, first he says 111 didnt get solved, yet mvp tails displayed this to not be the case when immvp failed it against him on the best map for it. And then his easy 2:0 over the greatest terran vs protoss player ( polt) meant nothing? Then he pretends as if terran is the reason protoss is doing bad when zergs clean up the current S level toss's like no tomorrow.


lets do a recap shall we, Puzzle lost because he made horrible blunders, Genius lost because he made a terrible blunder of fighting in bunkers , Just meh.. Just wait till better protoss such as sage get into code S , they will make killers comments look dumb , asking for a drink with david kim hahaa


really zergs have been cleaing up protosses? unless I am mistaken its 3-1 favoring zerg in Code S pvz. Yeah didn't realize that took down 4 tosses and the zergs that won were completely terrible and should not have beaten the protoss players they beat.

+ Show Spoiler +
DRG > Genius, Losira > hongun, Huk > Zenio, July > Hongun


On a note liked the interviews and was really happy to see DRG make ro16 really hope that he makes it far or wins he's definitely in my top 3 of favorite zergs



dude, you are referring to 1 day of matches, since when protoss has been struggling for 1 day? As its well known protoss been struggling for quite a while now. When terrans took all the blame for erradicating the protoss's, the zergs were doing it silently also .

-mc loves to whine against terran, but you know who knocked him out of the gsl completely? a no creep spreading zerg by the name of monster ,yet in complete fucking hypocrisy you see no complaints of imba because everybody is on a terran hate bandwagon. Mc also looses pretty fucking badly to Losira in arena of legends. The dude is just bad right now, but the loyalists will rather site imba

-naniwa loves to whine against terran, however in both his CODE A attempts, you know what race knocked him out ? zerg... hahahaha didnt even play a terran... Lets see Fruitdealer raped him last code A, and fxo lucky raped him the season before, both code A invites down the drain to zerg players


lets look at other protoss players, Hongun/killer/alicia ... hongun ever since the start has been known as a cheesing player, he loves his void rays, Alicia started off good, but after that rape from losira (0:2) hes never been the same, he got fucking knocked out by Tod pvp at mlg, he lost to select gosu micro, but ofcourse his demise is not because of bad play but because of imba.
clearly we have protoss pros playing.


Then you even make a point as to say DRG isnt suppose to loose to those toss players anyway? which proves my point, the current code S toss representation is BAD players, They are good but when they meet anybody with a name they are supposed to loose regardless of whether they are playing against a terran or Zerg, And tthats my point, Zerg has been secretly eradicating them also, yet terran takes all the blame.

the fact is, The new up and coming protoss's are way better than the toss's currently in code S. I'd save my balance opinions until these guys make it to code S. Likewise blizzard seems to be on point, Waiting it out first before any real action.

You are completely irrational. Protoss has been defeating Zerg just as much as Zerg has been defeating Protoss this season. Winrate 48.5%. You clearly don't watch the up and down matches where 3 different Terrans do the 1/1/1 to the P players and win every single game. Cite me a game where a Protoss player severely outplayed the Zerg player but lost due to imba. The current reason there are no Protoss in Code S are because the Terrans win every single up and down group. There is a reason JYP has failed in up and down and it isn't Zerg.

As it currently stands, Protoss and Zerg players have won equal amounts this GSL, so I would suggest you be quiet on your uneducated opinion.



and what is my opinion ? that im lieing when i say the current S level protoss are performing bad? and that im saying protoss is actually doing well this season? ( i mentioned the noticeable wins toss has got this season just a couple posts above) because thats EXACTLY WHAT IM FUCKING SAYING, thanks for proving my point. you bandwagon toss's are just like zergs in the first 2 gsl seasons.. sighting zerg as underpowered yet they win the whole fucking thing. Fruitdealer won season 1 easily, nestea won season 2 easily with only dropping games in the final on imba small maps, yet ofcourse terran is imba then and terran is imba now.

As i said, the current Protoss in code S is not a good indication of judging balance currently ( especially since the latest patch) that protoss is going to be doing bad in the future. I have currently seen much improvement from toss's in general and my whole fucking point is to lessen the whining about this protoss underpowered crap.


I am starting to think you mis read my post or either didn't inherit the sarcasm for the post I quoted. The guy I quoted was saying how bad protoss is for pvz and how every protoss was getting knocked out by zergs in code S when in reality its almost all by terran. I wasn't even talking very much about balance but to judge imba on 4 zvp games in code S is just lol when as someone said the win/loss ratio for pvz is 48.something % zerg favore so 52 vs 48 really isn't anywhere near as bad as the person I quoted makes it sound (also off of a very small sample of 4 games!)



yea and your also mistaking my comment about protoss's loosing to zergs alot but you only want to sight the most recent code A season when this has been going on for much longer than that, The fact is terrans meet up toss's way more in general because there are way more terrans, but when zergs meet up the protoss's they simply do not loose ( and again im refering to previous seasons)


another LOLER point i will like show is the demise of MC, this trend had started long ago where he was loosing alot ( Mc citing reasons as not going to many foreign tournaments to catch up on practice because even he noticed he was not performing up to par)


Lets see, for previous gsl's he lost to Alica and Hongun which knocked him out of 2 gsl seasons( alica knocked him out of super tournament, hongun knocked him out of the previous season before this) yet when he meets up a terran ( of his own choice, he choose mvp) then ofcourse once he looses terran is imba yet when he got knocked out of gsl by alica it wasnt because of imba and then when he got knocked out of gsl by hongun it wasnt because of imba and when hes knocked out of the gsl Completely by monster( a zerg) and Ofcourse when MC looses, it means All protoss's loose hope. Lets be frank around here please, ever since mc started loosing to basically everybody this protoss bandwagon started because hes the so-called protoss president . If he looses it means shit is imba.

I will tell you whats the problem, To much toss's copied the suicide toss to the core( MC) and are now paying the price for such risky builds because yes infact Mc pioneered alot of these builds, but likewise because MC has fallen, it should be of clear indication that his builds could not stand the test of time and that the New protoss's on the block ( sage,jyp,hero) are the new talent up & coming.


up to now i havent heard of any terran that didnt deserve to win his up & downs that you want to sight imbalance for



lol ok I'm not going to argue with you its just there are a lot more pvt then there is zvp its not really debatable and that was my point. Even before hand there were not many zvp's compared to pvt/zvt.
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parazice
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Thailand5517 Posts
September 29 2011 08:24 GMT
#51
thx u XD

DRG+COCA looking good
DeathPengu
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Taiwan137 Posts
September 29 2011 08:50 GMT
#52
Thanks for the translation as always!
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
September 29 2011 08:58 GMT
#53
I felt these interviews didn't feel as bland and boring as usual. The players were talking quite a lot directly from their heart and tried to express their feeling. I really enjoyed that
Adrone
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
September 29 2011 10:11 GMT
#54
Thank you for translating!
Interviews are one of the best parts of GSL!
Real fun to know what the players' thoughts
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 29 2011 10:29 GMT
#55
Lixler you're a boss <3
Very good Sangho interview btw. DRG was good too.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 29 2011 10:44 GMT
#56
It's more that DRG avoived Coca as Coca beat DRG in MLG
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Sweden7024 Posts
September 29 2011 10:46 GMT
#57
David Kim contact him please
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Croatia7457 Posts
September 29 2011 10:49 GMT
#58
On September 29 2011 19:46 eYeball wrote:
David Kim contact him please

And not just him.
Grettin
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42381 Posts
September 29 2011 10:56 GMT
#59
Sangho & DRG fighting! Thanks for the interviews!
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United States2113 Posts
September 30 2011 17:32 GMT
#60
LMFAO Sangho. "Welcome to TSL... btw get eliminated."
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