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ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
September 26 2011 20:59 GMT
#1
This is really a question for people who have gotten a Korean/Taiwan account from NA. How bad was the latency online? If you have done this and it has worked out for you can you post a speedtest so I can compare our speeds. I want to get on the Korean server but I have no way to know how bad the latency will be and if it will be worth it.
I go to Georgia Tech so I have pretty damn good internet but I am still not sure if it will be enough.
Also, do any pros that live in NA play on the Korean server?

Thanks in advance.

Also if this should be in blogs or something just let me know and I will fix it or if a mod wants to please do.

Here is a link to an average speedtest for me.
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^ This is to a server in Atlanta, I am running through a router which has been slowing it down, also upload is capped D:

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^ This is to a server in Seoul. I am really worried about that ping...

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^ Not going to lie, this one is just for nerd-cred. But with out the router I am able to get speeds like this (although not always the upload as this was a special circumstance).


So, TL, what do you think? Could I play on KR without too many problems?
Post your stories about playing on KR.
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NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
September 26 2011 21:01 GMT
#2
I could be wrong but wasn't low latency on BW around 200ms ping? That was playable for a while until better options were introduced. Eventually it will become playable but switching back and forth might be troublesome to get used to O_o
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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
September 26 2011 21:02 GMT
#3
Well, I play with this ping everyday, and it's quite bad, but you get used to.
Liquid`EliGE
Profile Joined October 2010
United States527 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:03:43
September 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#4
I have just about the same ping ~242 ms to KR. The latency isn't too bad to where it is unplayable.. but it is noticeable for sure. You will not have 1 second of delay definitely. I'd say for marine splitting and that type of micro I can still do it to the best of my abilities like on the NA server but ofc it is hindered.

So yes.. you will be able to play on KR with not too bad latency.

Edit: Also, ^ you will get used to the ping very fast. When you go back to NA you will feel a huge difference. Play some custom xel's or something to get used to it in the beginning.
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FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:04:33
September 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#5
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^ Not going to lie, this one is just for nerd-cred. But with out the router I am able to get speeds like this (although not always the upload as this was a special circumstance).


So, TL, what do you think? Could I play on KR without too many problems?
Post your stories about playing on KR.


O_O'

I play on KR from NA, the ping is fine.

I'm not a pro by any means, but other than a couple spikes here and there (Like once a game for 10-15s) I'd say the ping is occassionaly noticable, but most definitely playable.
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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#6
From Chicago I have about 0.7s delay
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DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:05:50
September 26 2011 21:05 GMT
#7
Your internet is extremely well... most people have somewhat higher ping and lower speeds... There's not much you can do to change it, and with your speeds, I think you are being too picky. I'm curious as to what OS you are running though since if you have XP, it can make things alot worse. But yeah, you are extremely lucky.
u gotta sk8
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
September 26 2011 21:06 GMT
#8
From what I understand most zerg players have told me the lag is deal-withable. I've also heard TvZ is undealwithable. I'm not sure if it's just the race MU's or the internet for each person or location - But in general I have more people tell me it's ok than bad.


On a side note, what the hell - I thought my internet at my university was amazing but this blows it out of the water O.O
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ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:07:54
September 26 2011 21:06 GMT
#9
On September 27 2011 06:05 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Your internet is extremely well... most people have somewhat higher ping and lower speeds... There's not much you can do to change it, and with your speeds, I think you are being too picky. I'm curious as to what OS you are running though since if you have XP, it can make things alot worse. But yeah, you are extremely lucky.


I am not trying to change my speeds I am just wondering if they are fast enough to play on KR. Also, I run Windows 7.


On September 27 2011 06:06 tQKyo wrote:
From what I understand most zerg players have told me the lag is deal-withable. I've also heard TvZ is undealwithable. I'm not sure if it's just the race MU's or the internet for each person or location - But in general I have more people tell me it's ok than bad.


On a side note, what the hell - I thought my internet at my university was amazing but this blows it out of the water O.O


*Flex*
And why is TvZ undealwithable, and for which race? I play T and I have trouble with Z so you can see where my concern comes from.
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Silent331
Profile Joined June 2010
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:10:49
September 26 2011 21:08 GMT
#10
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The latency IS noticeable, the only time ive found it hurts me is when im moving out of storms, but all in all i actually think the latency helps you improve faster, it forces your macro to be much better, you will learn more about unit posture and positioning, IE you will know from his templar positioning that he is about to storm and you can be ready, same with baneling wars, its harder only because you have to be faster.

I think the latency is better because of the increases in mechanics you will gain from being required to macro over micro. Untill you hit the highest level of play i dont think the latency will be a problem.

EDIT: BEWARE on the korean server gold players are going to be able to take games off you
They cant beat you, They only hope you beat yourself.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:10:56
September 26 2011 21:08 GMT
#11
On September 27 2011 06:06 ReMiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 06:05 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Your internet is extremely well... most people have somewhat higher ping and lower speeds... There's not much you can do to change it, and with your speeds, I think you are being too picky. I'm curious as to what OS you are running though since if you have XP, it can make things alot worse. But yeah, you are extremely lucky.


I am not trying to change my speeds I am just wondering if they are fast enough to play on KR. Also, I run Windows 7.



There there is no registry, or programs that will help you. Programs like Fixmylag won't help at all. I can tell you though that your speeds are significantly better than alot of people playing on KR from NA. That's not to say you won't have a delay, but nothing significant. What level are you, as well? That's another thing to consider... Korea server becomes more beneficial at high level, but in different ways. You'll have to learn to stop a huge variety of allins at high level, which will make you a better player, but that's what a lot of the server is... Difference between normal NA allins and Korea though is they are much more refined. That's not to say you won't have macro games as well though. At low levels, it's relatively useless.


There will be some days the lag is unplayable and others it is completely fine... There are several variables that change constantly, so you have to get use to it.. It also seems to change during different times of the day, might just be me though.


But anyway, yes, you will be able to play on korea server well. With a delay however, that takes time to get to used to.
u gotta sk8
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
September 26 2011 21:09 GMT
#12
Having high internet speed from a university is not special ;p
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
September 26 2011 21:10 GMT
#13
I use comcast and my ping is about 230-250ms. Tried both from MA and TX.

From a high master view, this is quite unplayable. U cant really micro marine or banshee.
ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
September 26 2011 21:10 GMT
#14
On September 27 2011 06:08 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 06:06 ReMiiX wrote:
On September 27 2011 06:05 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Your internet is extremely well... most people have somewhat higher ping and lower speeds... There's not much you can do to change it, and with your speeds, I think you are being too picky. I'm curious as to what OS you are running though since if you have XP, it can make things alot worse. But yeah, you are extremely lucky.


I am not trying to change my speeds I am just wondering if they are fast enough to play on KR. Also, I run Windows 7.



There there is no registry, or programs that will help you. Programs like Fixmylag won't help at all. I can tell you though that your speeds are significantly better than alot of people playing on KR from NA. That's not to say you won't have a delay, but nothing significant. What level are you, as well? That's another thing to consider... Korea server becomes more beneficial at high level, but in different ways. You'll have to learn to stop a huge variety of allins at high level, which will make you a better player, but that's what a lot of the server is... Difference between normal NA allins and Korea though is they are much more refined. That's not to say you won't have macro games as well though. At low levels, it's relatively useless.


I am a Mid-Masters Terran. Again I am not trying to "fix" my speeds or anything.
GaTech CSL fighting!
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
September 26 2011 21:11 GMT
#15
Im playing from West Coast Canada and have 0 latency issues on KR server
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Vinland
Profile Joined April 2011
Argentina136 Posts
September 26 2011 21:12 GMT
#16
200 ping should be fairly playable.. you only really notice it when doing really fast chain actions (spamming infested terrans, snipes, etc.).

The only bad part is that when connecting to somewhere so distant you could experience some lag spikes and/or disconects.

T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
September 26 2011 21:12 GMT
#17
On September 27 2011 06:06 ReMiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 06:05 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Your internet is extremely well... most people have somewhat higher ping and lower speeds... There's not much you can do to change it, and with your speeds, I think you are being too picky. I'm curious as to what OS you are running though since if you have XP, it can make things alot worse. But yeah, you are extremely lucky.


I am not trying to change my speeds I am just wondering if they are fast enough to play on KR. Also, I run Windows 7.


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 06:06 tQKyo wrote:
From what I understand most zerg players have told me the lag is deal-withable. I've also heard TvZ is undealwithable. I'm not sure if it's just the race MU's or the internet for each person or location - But in general I have more people tell me it's ok than bad.


On a side note, what the hell - I thought my internet at my university was amazing but this blows it out of the water O.O


*Flex*
And why is TvZ undealwithable, and for which race? I play T and I have trouble with Z so you can see where my concern comes from.

It's really hard to marine split with lag. It's okay for zerg because you just a move and cast spells.
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BestFriends
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
September 26 2011 21:12 GMT
#18
It is noticeable at first but its very very playable. My net is about half yours and I have gotten used to it completely.
It's not about winning but the prevention of defeat.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:13:24
September 26 2011 21:12 GMT
#19
On September 27 2011 06:10 ReMiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 06:08 DeepBlu2 wrote:
On September 27 2011 06:06 ReMiiX wrote:
On September 27 2011 06:05 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Your internet is extremely well... most people have somewhat higher ping and lower speeds... There's not much you can do to change it, and with your speeds, I think you are being too picky. I'm curious as to what OS you are running though since if you have XP, it can make things alot worse. But yeah, you are extremely lucky.


I am not trying to change my speeds I am just wondering if they are fast enough to play on KR. Also, I run Windows 7.



There there is no registry, or programs that will help you. Programs like Fixmylag won't help at all. I can tell you though that your speeds are significantly better than alot of people playing on KR from NA. That's not to say you won't have a delay, but nothing significant. What level are you, as well? That's another thing to consider... Korea server becomes more beneficial at high level, but in different ways. You'll have to learn to stop a huge variety of allins at high level, which will make you a better player, but that's what a lot of the server is... Difference between normal NA allins and Korea though is they are much more refined. That's not to say you won't have macro games as well though. At low levels, it's relatively useless.


I am a Mid-Masters Terran. Again I am not trying to "fix" my speeds or anything.



Sorry for not being completely direct. What I'm trying to say is your internet is good, and you will be able to play well on most days, depending on several variables... There will be a delay, and noticeable lag on certain days... Since you are terran as well, it will be significantly more difficult to micro, as opposed to you playing zerg and protoss. I do believe the practice for a mid masters player is worth it though.
u gotta sk8
sOAvoid
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada206 Posts
September 26 2011 21:12 GMT
#20
I bought a TW account about a month ago (im zerg) and i think its worth it just because the play style is noticablly different ^^ its only 42$ for a tw account some places but having said that with the latency i never beat terran zvt's just to aweful cross server but to each his own ^^.
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ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
September 26 2011 21:14 GMT
#21
On September 27 2011 06:12 sOAvoid wrote:
I bought a TW account about a month ago (im zerg) and i think its worth it just because the play style is noticablly different ^^ its only 42$ for a tw account some places but having said that with the latency i never beat terran zvt's just to aweful cross server but to each his own ^^.


Where did you buy yours?
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Silent331
Profile Joined June 2010
United States356 Posts
September 26 2011 21:14 GMT
#22
On September 27 2011 06:10 eleaf wrote:
I use comcast and my ping is about 230-250ms. Tried both from MA and TX.

From a high master view, this is quite unplayable. U cant really micro marine or banshee.

you can micro just fine, instead of waiting for your units to shoot to micro them back you will learn to just know the timing so you will move a specific time after issuing the attack and you can do it just the same, only thing that should ever be a problem with the latency are things that are purely reaction based, moving out of storms, blink micro, possibly banelings but the latency should never make you lose your marines unless you are too slow at issuing the commands.
They cant beat you, They only hope you beat yourself.
Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:16:50
September 26 2011 21:15 GMT
#23
My internet is horrible but I got used to playing on Kr after awhile. Just play alot of customs before you hit up ladder.

Terrans safe early on from most things so you should be fine. Playing toss with lag is a bitch.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:19:20
September 26 2011 21:17 GMT
#24
I'm east coast (quebec) and latency to KR server is definitely fine. I'm close to high masters and have been hitting a few GM's so far. Early game forcefields are hard to hit but as the game goes on it gets easier. Sometimes (rarely) it lags non stop for the entire game then I have to take a break from KR ladder and come back later because it won't stop.
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 26 2011 21:18 GMT
#25
On September 27 2011 06:15 Swad1000 wrote:

Terrans safe early on from most things so you should be fine. Playing toss with lag is a bitch.

Also this. Early game agression is comon against toss and it's hard to have clutch/good forcefields but if you can take it to the macro game and have skills you should be fine.

btw I don't see why you would play on KR server, only useful once ur high masters =P glhf
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shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:20:38
September 26 2011 21:20 GMT
#26
From central Canada is its fine. High diamond z on KR ladder with the ping, high diamond on Na. Doesn't seem to make much difference.
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 21:20:51
September 26 2011 21:20 GMT
#27
Here is my average speed test
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To server in Seoul
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Im low to mid masters in KR server and I hardly notice any lag at all. Maybe I will lag in the beginning 1 out of 10 games but its something minor and clears up after 2 seconds.

Hope this helps

I play protoss btw
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 26 2011 21:21 GMT
#28
150-200's pretty regular for me on every game I play...

If I'm lucky anyway.
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ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
September 27 2011 03:04 GMT
#29
Is there a channel on Kr for American/English speaking players? Or, even better, TL'ers?
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 27 2011 03:06 GMT
#30
On September 27 2011 06:18 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 06:15 Swad1000 wrote:

Terrans safe early on from most things so you should be fine. Playing toss with lag is a bitch.

Also this. Early game agression is comon against toss and it's hard to have clutch/good forcefields but if you can take it to the macro game and have skills you should be fine.

btw I don't see why you would play on KR server, only useful once ur high masters =P glhf


Actually a lot of koreans are aggressive no matter what race you are from experience as zerg, and talking with protoss/terran friends who have played on it.

But I don't get latency at all on korea its awesome I used to but went away . Its like playing on NA for me ^_^.
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Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 03:17:57
September 27 2011 03:15 GMT
#31
On September 27 2011 06:18 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 06:15 Swad1000 wrote:

Terrans safe early on from most things so you should be fine. Playing toss with lag is a bitch.

Also this. Early game agression is comon against toss and it's hard to have clutch/good forcefields but if you can take it to the macro game and have skills you should be fine.

btw I don't see why you would play on KR server, only useful once ur high masters =P glhf


Useful when your already high masters on Kr. Playing on Na is never ever useful.
fuzzayy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States99 Posts
September 27 2011 03:18 GMT
#32
I play on the Kr server from the west coast of the u.s. and I play with basically no lag at all.
ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
September 27 2011 03:26 GMT
#33
On September 27 2011 12:18 fuzzayy wrote:
I play on the Kr server from the west coast of the u.s. and I play with basically no lag at all.


Yeah I am on East Coast. Could I get your bnet for KR so I can test my latency in a custom?
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IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
September 27 2011 03:31 GMT
#34
Living in Vancouver, bought a Taiwan account and I play on that server with absolutely no lag at all. My internet has around a 15Mb download and a 0.5Mb upload. Since my upload is terrible when I tried streaming and playing on the server I got a pretty bad delay but just playing normally there's nothing at all.
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CoolSea
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States236 Posts
September 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#35
I am not exactly sure where the server is for the American region (Maybe near Irvine?) but there is basically no difference in lag for me. I can play on KR and AM with the same amount of latency. I live in Seattle, and I get 179 ms ping to Seoul.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 27 2011 03:37 GMT
#36
On September 27 2011 12:33 CoolSea wrote:
I am not exactly sure where the server is for the American region (Maybe near Irvine?) but there is basically no difference in lag for me. I can play on KR and AM with the same amount of latency. I live in Seattle, and I get 179 ms ping to Seoul.


Ah I'm pretty close to you (well 8 hours away). It seems people in states idaho or near don't get latency which is really awesome as I know a couple others who live in the general area and have the same. Sucks blizzard can't make everyone have good latency lol.
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ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
September 27 2011 03:50 GMT
#37
I've been hearing a lot about specific times that there is high latency for NA players. What do you guys know about this? What times should I avoid?
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eNigma627
Profile Joined December 2010
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 04:17:31
September 27 2011 04:16 GMT
#38
My ping to the KR battle.net server (done through a "tracert" in cmd) is around 200-230ms which scared me. I play on KR a lot after buying a TW account and though there is a TINY bit of lag if you're looking for it, it's not noticeable to me at all at the Masters level. And definitely NEVER enough to make me lose units due to laggy control or anything like that.

You should be fine.

michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 04:22:24
September 27 2011 04:19 GMT
#39
On September 27 2011 12:04 ReMiiX wrote:
Is there a channel on Kr for American/English speaking players? Or, even better, TL'ers?


just teamliquid channel. It used to be a ghost channel before the merger, but now you can usually find 8-10 people in it, maybe half of whom speak english.



As for the latency, expect around 200-250ms depending where you play from. I play from korea to NA (california) and I have about 250ms. I play about half my games there, but there are some things I can't do at all because of it (ling/bling micro in zvz for example).

Unless your internet is awful, you shouldn't expect to have any spikes in lag or anything, only the actual latency from the distance (200-250ish from NA).

It's a trade-off for sure, but I think you'll find the quality of opponents makes it worth practicing there (if you are playing mid-high master level).

I think that if you aren't at least in master league though, there is no point to get a korean account except for the novelty factor. (just my opinion)

On September 27 2011 12:33 CoolSea wrote:
I am not exactly sure where the server is for the American region (Maybe near Irvine?) but there is basically no difference in lag for me. I can play on KR and AM with the same amount of latency. I live in Seattle, and I get 179 ms ping to Seoul.


seattle is a bit closer to seoul than california... maybe even 30-70ms closer


also this is completely irrelevant but:
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Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 05:30:47
September 27 2011 05:28 GMT
#40
200ms ping is more than OK. I doubt anyone can notice the difference below pro level. The real problem though, is that it's not a guaranteed 200ms, and you will probably have lag spikes.
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
September 27 2011 05:35 GMT
#41
On September 27 2011 12:37 blade55555 wrote:
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On September 27 2011 12:33 CoolSea wrote:
I am not exactly sure where the server is for the American region (Maybe near Irvine?) but there is basically no difference in lag for me. I can play on KR and AM with the same amount of latency. I live in Seattle, and I get 179 ms ping to Seoul.


Ah I'm pretty close to you (well 8 hours away). It seems people in states idaho or near don't get latency which is really awesome as I know a couple others who live in the general area and have the same. Sucks blizzard can't make everyone have good latency lol.

I hope you realize that unless Blizzard manage to increase the light speed, you will never get a ping below 100ms from KR to NA ...
ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
September 27 2011 05:46 GMT
#42
On September 27 2011 14:35 Elean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 12:37 blade55555 wrote:
On September 27 2011 12:33 CoolSea wrote:
I am not exactly sure where the server is for the American region (Maybe near Irvine?) but there is basically no difference in lag for me. I can play on KR and AM with the same amount of latency. I live in Seattle, and I get 179 ms ping to Seoul.


Ah I'm pretty close to you (well 8 hours away). It seems people in states idaho or near don't get latency which is really awesome as I know a couple others who live in the general area and have the same. Sucks blizzard can't make everyone have good latency lol.

I hope you realize that unless Blizzard manage to increase the light speed, you will never get a ping below 100ms from KR to NA ...


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Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
September 27 2011 06:02 GMT
#43
On September 27 2011 14:35 Elean wrote:
I hope you realize that unless Blizzard manage to increase the light speed, you will never get a ping below 100ms from KR to NA ...

Not really...

It is 8000-something kilometers from Seoul to Seattle.

That is 27ms at light speed.

100ms isn't really the max limit.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 07:23:53
September 27 2011 06:07 GMT
#44
On September 27 2011 14:35 Elean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 12:37 blade55555 wrote:
On September 27 2011 12:33 CoolSea wrote:
I am not exactly sure where the server is for the American region (Maybe near Irvine?) but there is basically no difference in lag for me. I can play on KR and AM with the same amount of latency. I live in Seattle, and I get 179 ms ping to Seoul.


Ah I'm pretty close to you (well 8 hours away). It seems people in states idaho or near don't get latency which is really awesome as I know a couple others who live in the general area and have the same. Sucks blizzard can't make everyone have good latency lol.

I hope you realize that unless Blizzard manage to increase the light speed, you will never get a ping below 100ms from KR to NA ...



did you know in bw we had lan latency? on iccup which had europeans/koreans and we could play each other and not lag? :O
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Legend`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada381 Posts
September 27 2011 06:20 GMT
#45
West coast NA (vancouver, BC) > TW there is no noticeable difference.

East coast NA (NYC, NY) > TW there is a noticable (~0.7-8 second) delay in all commands.
NME.352 GM NA Protoss
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 06:46:19
September 27 2011 06:30 GMT
#46
That's my latency(200) on american servers(the ones I'm actually meant to play) ^^. Hooray to brazilian internet. When I play Protoss against AI I tell my probes to do stuff before they laiy down the building they were supposed to ._. .
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rale
Profile Joined December 2010
United States40 Posts
September 27 2011 06:37 GMT
#47
Traceroute to kr.logon.battle.net is probably the best way to get a good idea of how much latency you can expect. I get around 220ms from the east coast (VA) on a fast connection, and don't really have any problems with lag spikes.

At 220ms, it's very playable, but there's enough lag to notice the difference with stuff like forcefields and blink micro. You just have to get used to it and play a little predictively.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
September 27 2011 07:07 GMT
#48
234ms is going to be painful, west coast US has very low lag to KR, but pretty the further you go east, the higher the latency.

If you can get a good tunnel then you can get lower lag..
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2011 07:13 GMT
#49
On September 27 2011 05:59 ReMiiX wrote:
This is really a question for people who have gotten a Korean/Taiwan account from NA. How bad was the latency online? If you have done this and it has worked out for you can you post a speedtest so I can compare our speeds. I want to get on the Korean server but I have no way to know how bad the latency will be and if it will be worth it.
I go to Georgia Tech so I have pretty damn good internet but I am still not sure if it will be enough.
Also, do any pros that live in NA play on the Korean server?

Thanks in advance.

Also if this should be in blogs or something just let me know and I will fix it or if a mod wants to please do.

Here is a link to an average speedtest for me.
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^ This is to a server in Atlanta, I am running through a router which has been slowing it down, also upload is capped D:

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^ This is to a server in Seoul. I am really worried about that ping...

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^ Not going to lie, this one is just for nerd-cred. But with out the router I am able to get speeds like this (although not always the upload as this was a special circumstance).


So, TL, what do you think? Could I play on KR without too many problems?
Post your stories about playing on KR.

If you're plugged in at tech you should be fine. We have ridiculous internet.
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Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 07:21:53
September 27 2011 07:16 GMT
#50
Local
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Korea
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I play on the KR server all the time with this, and have never had an issue. I have koreans lag out on me, while never once having lagged myself.
Legend`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada381 Posts
September 27 2011 07:19 GMT
#51
On September 27 2011 16:16 Koibu0 wrote:
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I play on the KR server all the time with this, and have never had an issue. I have koreans lag out on me, while never once having suffered from lag of my own. :D


Yeah west coast NA should have little to no lag whatsoever. Lag should only be noticeable east of chicago, because I know central players whom play on KR with very little or non-existant lag too.
NME.352 GM NA Protoss
Fluttershy
Profile Joined August 2011
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 07:23:40
September 27 2011 07:22 GMT
#52
Pretty sure your "better" internet nowadays just makes you carry more data around and not actually make the speed improve.

So unless the internet can move at the speed of light(what are they now on ideal/impossible conditions? like 2/3rd?) then asia<-->america will always be substandard.
-dcLookAtThis-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States42 Posts
September 27 2011 07:38 GMT
#53
I will get a 150ms from West coast NA to KR. Now I wanna go find a KR account so I can actually play some real games of sc in KR bronze lolololol.
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Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
September 27 2011 07:44 GMT
#54
I wont even talk about how "college" bandwidth is anything to brag, or why speed isnt related to the open bandwith, more than location and availability of the host.
To be honest, i dont believe you have in any situation where your 300mb/s was put in full use acquire a faster download than me, a 20mb/s connection assuming all things non torrent related.
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
September 27 2011 08:13 GMT
#55
234 MS isn't really noticable lag. Median human reaction time to stimuli is about 214 MS. Some peoples reaction time is very slightly less than that, but by and large it's about the same as most people on the planet.
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Fluttershy
Profile Joined August 2011
47 Posts
September 27 2011 09:03 GMT
#56
On September 27 2011 17:13 Arisen wrote:
234 MS isn't really noticable lag. Median human reaction time to stimuli is about 214 MS. Some peoples reaction time is very slightly less than that, but by and large it's about the same as most people on the planet.


Uh what? you realize that you actually have to make some actions after reacting to something right?


>guy has tanks sieged up
>.2 seconds to react
>.25 seconds delay before your action registers

lol grats on eating 2-3 siege tank shots.

>stutter step micro
>.25 second delay between move and attack
>half assed, garbage performance

>blink
>always a quarter of a second later
>more losses and can't reliably dodge marauder shots in time
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
September 27 2011 09:10 GMT
#57
The latency should be playable. Try doing anything from Australia, we have that latency to just about any location
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
September 27 2011 11:10 GMT
#58
This is not much don't worry it will totally be playable.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States969 Posts
September 27 2011 11:17 GMT
#59
Played from Clemson with much worse internet. It's not optimal but its still not absolutely terrible.

The only thing frustrating not being able to use FF properly or banelings in zvz.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
September 27 2011 11:21 GMT
#60
does someone know how the average latency from EU ( Germany ) to KR is?
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
September 27 2011 11:23 GMT
#61
On September 27 2011 15:30 Alpino wrote:
That's my latency(200) on american servers(the ones I'm actually meant to play) ^^. Hooray to brazilian internet. When I play Protoss against AI I tell my probes to do stuff before they laiy down the building they were supposed to ._. .

Shift click your probes.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 11:26:37
September 27 2011 11:26 GMT
#62
i can play on korean server from LA / Victoria, BC and there is no lag at all EXCEPT stutter stepping marines and microing banshee is a tiny bit off, just enough to be messed up until I got used to it
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ssartor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States129 Posts
September 27 2011 11:29 GMT
#63
Im currently in Ohio but I barely have any latency, My internet isn't anything special either. It was worth the 42 dollars for me.
"If you don't know, the thing to do is not to get scared, but to learn." — Ayn Rand (Atlas Shrugged)
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
September 27 2011 11:35 GMT
#64
On September 27 2011 20:21 MyLastSerenade wrote:
does someone know how the average latency from EU ( Germany ) to KR is?



The delay from "western" europe is between 0.6 and 0.9 seconds to korea it is kinda hard to play with it I don't know what it means in term of ping but this is the unit reaction time.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
September 27 2011 11:39 GMT
#65
On September 27 2011 16:22 Fluttershy wrote:
Pretty sure your "better" internet nowadays just makes you carry more data around and not actually make the speed improve.

So unless the internet can move at the speed of light(what are they now on ideal/impossible conditions? like 2/3rd?) then asia<-->america will always be substandard.


Well with cables the information move at light speed. Dunno what speed the information travels at through satelites and whatnot though.
It'd be kind of cool if someone decided to make a landline between Europe and Asia.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
eXwOn
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 11:46:03
September 27 2011 11:45 GMT
#66
On September 27 2011 20:23 svefnleysi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 15:30 Alpino wrote:
That's my latency(200) on american servers(the ones I'm actually meant to play) ^^. Hooray to brazilian internet. When I play Protoss against AI I tell my probes to do stuff before they laiy down the building they were supposed to ._. .

Shift click your probes.

Weirdly enough it still cancels if you do it fast enough.

IIRC my ping is the same as yours, it's playable imo.
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 27 2011 14:29 GMT
#67
On September 27 2011 20:35 Cosmos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 20:21 MyLastSerenade wrote:
does someone know how the average latency from EU ( Germany ) to KR is?



The delay from "western" europe is between 0.6 and 0.9 seconds to korea it is kinda hard to play with it I don't know what it means in term of ping but this is the unit reaction time.


is it artist who told you that ?
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
September 27 2011 15:06 GMT
#68
I play on NA from KR

It's fine.
HTODethklok
Profile Joined November 2010
United States221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 15:13:26
September 27 2011 15:12 GMT
#69
Here is my normal speed

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Speed to Seoul

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When I play on the KR server it takes my games a little longer to load up than on the NA server but I rarely experience lag while in the game.
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