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Is it okay to say extreme stuff over game? - Page 16
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
Keep it classy spades. | ||
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kofman
Andorra698 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:19 SafeAsCheese wrote: You know how IdrA types "get out" to people? That's what manner mules mean. Terran just doesn't have to type it xD I know that, but I think its less rude than "get out". It's like giving someone a dirty look rather than going up to them and punching them in the face. | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:31 kofman wrote: I know that, but I think its less rude than "get out". It's like giving someone a dirty look rather than going up to them and punching them in the face. Manner muling is basically an offensive GG which is BM also | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
being mad is no excuse for being a rascist, saying sorry doesn't make up for it | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:34 DreamChaser wrote: Manner muling is basically an offensive GG which is BM also Manner mules are like neural parasited CCs, it's part of the game. It's more like a taunt, which is different from actual BM. The same goes for using /dance to make your units dance, and post-game cermonies. Also please note that taunt moves are present in a lot of games besides Sc2; fighting games and mmorpgs come to mind. It's entirely different from actual insults and other similar BM behaviors. It's very important to distinguish the "BM" from the "taunts". For example MC doing a throat slicing move to Idra is a taunt, Idra flipping MC off is BM. This is applicable in other games too; in TF2 if I perform a taunt with my Medigun after a kill (especially when I kill spies): it's a taunt, hence the name. But if I say "learn to play you nigger free to play noob", then it's actual BM. | ||
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iloveAthene
186 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:38 MisterTea wrote: if you start with the rascist shit after losing a game, as a pro/semi pro player you should get heavily punished for it by your team/sponsor. being mad is no excuse for being a rascist, saying sorry doesn't make up for it Exactly! Especially when the racial slur is paired with a physical threat. | ||
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Bonkerz
United States831 Posts
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
On September 26 2011 05:34 cydial wrote: What you just said makes no sense at all. He never said a racial slur is the worst thing you can say to anybody, but he is right in that Spades is talking about of shit that he can't back up. What's worse is that hes getting racial about it, probably because he's just an insecure douche. what i said makes sense if you look at how worked up he is over a few words that have no real impact on either player or the games they played. i think it's ok to disapprove of what spades said. getting all preachy on a forum about something like this just seems weird unless you really think this kind of topic merits the time it takes to pour so much anger and thought into your posts. | ||
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RavenLoud
Canada1100 Posts
On September 26 2011 06:46 AlBundy wrote: Manner mules are like neural parasited CCs, it's part of the game. It's more like a taunt, which is different from actual BM. The same goes for using /dance to make your units dance, and post-game cermonies. Also please note that taunt moves are present in a lot of games besides Sc2; fighting games and mmorpgs come to mind. It's entirely different from actual insults and other similar BM behaviors. It's very important to distinguish the "BM" from the "taunts". For example MC doing a throat slicing move to Idra is a taunt, Idra flipping MC off is BM. This is applicable in other games too; in TF2 if I perform a taunt with my Medigun after a kill (especially when I kill spies): it's a taunt, hence the name. But if I say "learn to play you nigger free to play noob", then it's actual BM. IMO "Taunt" and "BM" aren't really a mutually exclusive. If you get teabagged in Halo, you know the guy's intentions isn't really to taunt you to kill him as much as it is to tell you how much you suck. Manner mules and dancing are part of the game, but they are used to convey messages that if translated in words, would not be nearly as tolerated for the sake of "taunt". A player that constantly drop manner mule will lose respect from me. A certain amount of it is fun and good for the scene, but there is a limit between arrogance and confidence that's easy to cross. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 26 2011 05:24 DiuLaSing wrote: i mean spades...i doubt any pro respect him...maphacker since bw=\ testie also maphacked in broodwar and then he got a lot of respect in broodwar.. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On September 26 2011 08:40 ReignFayth wrote: testie also maphacked in broodwar and then he got a lot of respect in broodwar.. being the best random player doesnt hurt.. | ||
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ckunkel1
United States181 Posts
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alwaid
United States96 Posts
Pro players should act classy and shouldn't be complete racist, homophobic and all around intolerant tools. In general, people agree that you can't say those words in the real world, and just saying "durr it's the internet" doesn't really change anything when the forum is so public and linked to actual, important events. tldr; pro gaming is not 4chan. | ||
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Incursus
United States415 Posts
Having said that, none of that is an excuse for Spades' behavior, which was many orders of magnitude worse. Sorry does not make up for that kind of language and the fact that he is saying things like that should be of serious concern to Reign as a team. Both players are wrong here and I have lost a considerable amount of respect for both of them to be honest. Even if you're the best in the world you don't get to behave like that, acting like that is simply not something that should be rewarded. | ||
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NrG.NeverExpo
Canada2114 Posts
On September 26 2011 08:40 ReignFayth wrote: testie also maphacked in broodwar and then he got a lot of respect in broodwar.. ugh comparing those 2 isn't really fair...Testie had a lot of haters too. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 26 2011 08:40 ReignFayth wrote: testie also maphacked in broodwar and then he got a lot of respect in broodwar.. Not even close to the same O-o | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
i thought this was going to be bad | ||
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hongo
207 Posts
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SolveN
Canada43 Posts
Also, more directly to this issue, Spades was angry at the player, not the race. Racism is a problem to me when someone is targeted specifically because they fit a profile, but in this case, a 'racial slur' was used the other way around. I can't believe anyone would want to classify Spades as a problematic racist over this. Spades already said he was sorry, I don't see a point in prolonging the drama with a thread such as this, its probably hurting e-sports (albeit still completely insignificantly) more than Spades ever did. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
i'm going to slap the shit out of you i'm feeling slap happy slappin and slappin and slappin you | ||
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