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Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
October 04 2011 10:17 GMT
#1181
It's waaaay too early to be able to accurately figure out who the best foreigner is. With that being said, Thorzain is looking pretty good of late.
<3 Moonbattles
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 04 2011 10:18 GMT
#1182
On October 04 2011 19:11 WhiteraCares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 19:06 mcc wrote:
On October 04 2011 17:34 damod wrote:
so... does idrA still dosnt Deserves to be in this list ? ;P

Yes, he still does not deserve to be on the list. Beating two Korean players does not change the fact. If he keeps playing consistently like he did in the playoffs (for comparison see his performance in the groups) he will belong on the list. For now he still is not even the best foreign Zerg. Of his 3 matchups only his ZvT belongs to the top foreign play, his ZvP is far behind Ret, Sheth, Morrow and probably also Sen, Nerchio and his ZvZ is worse than Nerchios and probably also Dimaga and Sen.


Correct! I'll bet that he will bomb in the next tournament he enters.

I've noticed a behavioral pattern, a "grack-pattern" if you will; sucks for a long period of time -> gets mad at all the haters and trains like a beast -> wins a tournament -> get laids/parties/celebrates recent victory -> back to sucking -> repeat.

I don't know, he is probably practicing more now and the win might give him better outlook, so hopefully he will keep his form. The thing with him is I think that he has problems accepting that SC2 is much more volatile than SC and losses to somewhat worse players have detrimental effect on his motivation. So it is not that he will not perform well in the next tournament because he won this one, I think the opposite, but if his performance in the next tournament won't bring the results he expects it might put him in the slump again. But frankly this is armchair psychology so just ignore it and let's see MLG and IPL.
Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:40:25
October 04 2011 12:40 GMT
#1183
SeleCT is btw Korean, not US!
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
October 04 2011 12:45 GMT
#1184
i really dont understand how some people can vote sase kas select or ret that seems totally unreasonable to me
also i dont quite agree with sen having so many votes and idra having so few since idra is obviously better
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
October 04 2011 12:56 GMT
#1185
On October 04 2011 21:45 sVnteen wrote:
i really dont understand how some people can vote sase kas select or ret that seems totally unreasonable to me
also i dont quite agree with sen having so many votes and idra having so few since idra is obviously better

why is it obvious that IdrA is better than Sen? I`m really curious, cuz I can`t see it.
keep it deep! @zulison
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 13:20:16
October 04 2011 13:18 GMT
#1186
On October 04 2011 21:45 sVnteen wrote:
i really dont understand how some people can vote sase kas select or ret that seems totally unreasonable to me
also i dont quite agree with sen having so many votes and idra having so few since idra is obviously better

Its obvious you are alone then. Most people think having idra is "totally" unreasonable,except this time its actually fact rather than imposing my opinion on others.
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
October 04 2011 13:47 GMT
#1187
DeMusliM and Nerchio should totally be on that list. They are better than at least half of the players included in the poll.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 04 2011 13:54 GMT
#1188
On October 04 2011 22:47 CruiseR wrote:
DeMusliM and Nerchio should totally be on that list. They are better than at least half of the players included in the poll.


Agreed. I'd put them above Sase, Kas and maybe Stephano (who's better, Stephano or Nerchio?).
Bora Pain minha porra!
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
October 04 2011 13:57 GMT
#1189
Mana.

Many are missing of course.
Liquid | SKT
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
October 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#1190
Where is the God of protoss?
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
October 04 2011 14:47 GMT
#1191

Why is Demuslim not here T.T
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
October 04 2011 14:50 GMT
#1192
On October 04 2011 22:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 22:47 CruiseR wrote:
DeMusliM and Nerchio should totally be on that list. They are better than at least half of the players included in the poll.


Agreed. I'd put them above Sase, Kas and maybe Stephano (who's better, Stephano or Nerchio?).

I'd give the edge to Stephano but Nerchio is sickly good aswell. It just seems that Stephano is a abit more well-rounded and consistent.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
October 04 2011 15:04 GMT
#1193
On October 04 2011 22:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 22:47 CruiseR wrote:
DeMusliM and Nerchio should totally be on that list. They are better than at least half of the players included in the poll.


Agreed. I'd put them above Sase, Kas and maybe Stephano (who's better, Stephano or Nerchio?).


Sase is better then demuslim in my opinion,
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Xadar
Profile Joined October 2010
497 Posts
October 04 2011 15:06 GMT
#1194
IEM spoiler + Show Spoiler +
shame on all who voted for idra not being deserved on that list. lol
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 15:07:19
October 04 2011 15:06 GMT
#1195
On recent form Thorzain, Sase, Demuslim, Stephano, Mana (Idra if you include his IEM win today)

On consistancy Whitera, Idra, Huk, Sen, Naniwa, Ret, Dimaga
Gogo Grubby.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 04 2011 15:10 GMT
#1196
On October 04 2011 21:56 zul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 21:45 sVnteen wrote:
i really dont understand how some people can vote sase kas select or ret that seems totally unreasonable to me
also i dont quite agree with sen having so many votes and idra having so few since idra is obviously better

why is it obvious that IdrA is better than Sen? I`m really curious, cuz I can`t see it.


Yep I think they both can be on top of this list. From watching a lot of idra's and sen's streams I can say that idra does not really play any better than sen.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 15:11:55
October 04 2011 15:10 GMT
#1197
Best tvx MU:

Tvp = Thorzain defintely.
tvz = Kas (his macro is kinda bad, but he has the best tank control imo). putting thorzain here is just stpi.d he just doesn't have the mechanics to beat good zerg players consistently. Him being slow is not a good thing actually. Its just a consequence of his low apm.
tvt = tough to say. guess its close between thorzain, kas and strelok.

Have not seen major play for a few weeks but he isn't far away from the top spot in any of the MU. He could very well claim 1st after i have seen play in blizzcon.
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
October 04 2011 15:19 GMT
#1198
On October 05 2011 00:10 Hider wrote:
Best tvx MU:

Tvp = Thorzain defintely.
tvz = Kas (his macro is kinda bad, but he has the best tank control imo). putting thorzain here is just stpi.d he just doesn't have the mechanics to beat good zerg players consistently. Him being slow is not a good thing actually. Its just a consequence of his low apm.
tvt = tough to say. guess its close between thorzain, kas and strelok.

Have not seen major play for a few weeks but he isn't far away from the top spot in any of the MU. He could very well claim 1st after i have seen play in blizzcon.


Demuslim has consistently beaten Kas in every TvT they've played in the past few months. His TvT is extremely strong.
EG.DeMusliM/d.BlinG/UK Fighting!
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 04 2011 16:33 GMT
#1199
On October 05 2011 00:06 UnholyRai wrote:
On recent form Thorzain, Sase, Demuslim, Stephano, Mana (Idra if you include his IEM win today)

On consistancy Whitera, Idra, Huk, Sen, Naniwa, Ret, Dimaga

Thorzain's form is not really recent considering the game is out just over a year. His form is on the top of foreign scene for around 6 months already.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 04 2011 16:36 GMT
#1200
On October 05 2011 00:10 Hider wrote:
Best tvx MU:

Tvp = Thorzain defintely.
tvz = Kas (his macro is kinda bad, but he has the best tank control imo). putting thorzain here is just stpi.d he just doesn't have the mechanics to beat good zerg players consistently. Him being slow is not a good thing actually. Its just a consequence of his low apm.
tvt = tough to say. guess its close between thorzain, kas and strelok.

Have not seen major play for a few weeks but he isn't far away from the top spot in any of the MU. He could very well claim 1st after i have seen play in blizzcon.

On the other hand Thorzain actually beat good Korean zergs, something hard to say about Kas.
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