EPT[Poll] Best Foreigner? - Page 58
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Dawg_Snow
France425 Posts
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koolaid1990
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On September 29 2011 20:04 ForlornHope wrote: Mana has a 4-0 record agiasnt Stephano in recent tournament so His PvZ is pretty out of this world record against 1 person is not represantative enough. check Polt's record against Sangho and make a conclusion about polt's tvp based on that (and it will be wrong). noone's saying mana's pvz is bad. it's just not as good as his pvt. | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
TvT Thorzain/MajOr TvP Thorzain/Sjow/Select TvZ Thorzain/Strelok PvT Mana/Naniwa/Sase/Huk PvP Naniwa/Sase PvZ Socke/Naniwa ZvT Stepano ZvP Morrow ZvZ Dimaga/Nerchio | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On October 01 2011 01:22 VoirDire wrote: How about best of a MU? I'll start. TvT Thorzain/MajOr TvP Thorzain/Sjow/Select TvZ Thorzain/Strelok PvT Mana/Naniwa/Sase/Huk PvP Naniwa/Sase PvZ Socke/Naniwa ZvT Stepano ZvP Morrow ZvZ Dimaga/Nerchio americans will be very upset with your picks  | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On September 30 2011 04:16 koolaid1990 wrote: everyone says sase is good... but did you see his horrendous play against fruitdealer? lol He was probably freaking out because he was playing in the fucking GSL. You can't judge a player on one series. | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
On October 01 2011 01:34 happyness wrote: He was probably freaking out because he was playing in the fucking GSL. You can't judge a player on one series. He also got stomped by MKP in a Bo5 | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On October 01 2011 01:33 Kira__ wrote: americans will be very upset with your picks I'm not upset, and I'm american. Stop with the generalizations. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Ok, I'm sorry, you're right, he MUST be terrible then. I mean, MKP is just a scrub anyways, right? | ||
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
On October 01 2011 01:33 Kira__ wrote: americans will be very upset with your picks nah i am american, and am fully aware that only a couple good players have actually come out of NA. | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
On October 01 2011 01:33 Kira__ wrote: americans will be very upset with your picks Might be a little sweden-biased :D but I mentioned major, select and huk. Idra and sheth is pretty good Z all-round, but I feel that stephano/morrow/dimaga/nerchio is clearly better in the individual match-ups. Kiwikakiss PvT is pretty good, but I already had 4 people tied for PvT, and I feel that they are stronger. | ||
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TT1
Canada10052 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27271 Posts
I actually think out of all the foreign scene Mana may do the best in the GSL, IF he can qualify. It's so stacked with Terrans and his PvT is a level above his other matchups I don't regard him as the best foreigner, he's damn good mind, but you can do well in the GSL if you get lucky with draws and are extremely strong in one matchup. Didn't Inca get to the finals pretty much solely playing PvP back in the day? | ||
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HystericaLaughter
Australia720 Posts
On October 01 2011 01:22 VoirDire wrote: How about best of a MU? I'll start. TvT Thorzain/MajOr TvP Thorzain/Sjow/Select TvZ Thorzain/Strelok PvT Mana/Naniwa/Sase/Huk PvP Naniwa/Sase PvZ Socke/Naniwa ZvT Stepano ZvP Morrow ZvZ Dimaga/Nerchio Those are good picks, but I would change a couple: TvT Sjow because of his series with Bomber at MLG TvP Thorzain without a doubt TvZ Demuslim, not on the list but he is being a beast lately PvT Mana PvP Naniwa PvZ Naniwa ZvT Morrow ZvP Sheth, cant believe people forgot about him ZvZ Nerchio, he is the European Nestea of this matchup Not a huge fan of the list to be honest, I would swap out Sase, Stephano, Dimaga and Kas for Sheth, WhiteRa, Demuslim and Morrow. Although I'm not sure about taking out Stephano I could leave him in and leave Demuslim out. | ||
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ePdeLay
Australia220 Posts
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On September 29 2011 00:04 NoobSkills wrote: PvP for Mana isn't bad, and perhaps with the new patch he could stomp him. Issue is/was that MC with technical rushes could stomp him, but MC could never keep up in a macro game. Meanwhile as you saw MC is now in Code B cuz he has no clue how to play a late game. Mana on the otherhand would beat those who MC lost to. Directly having one player beat doesn't make you the better player. Let's say that Combatex practices one build and dominates thorzain with a 1 base push, but does nothing else ever on SC2. He better than thorzain? You're delusional. MC took expansions in his PvP against MaNa. How much more macro based can you get in a PvP game? Calling MaNa better or even equal to MC is frankly an insult to the 2 time GSL Champion and MaNa himself would tell you as much. Puma is the only person MaNa has even beaten that MC wouldn't(or hasn't), and even in the tournament he did, guess who ended up winning? MC dwarfs MaNa in everything, winrates, accomplishments, head to head series, has outplaced him in every tourney they've both been in etc. To call him better is absurd. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:41 HystericaLaughter wrote: Those are good picks, but I would change a couple: TvT Sjow because of his series with Bomber at MLG TvP Thorzain without a doubt TvZ Demuslim, not on the list but he is being a beast lately PvT Mana PvP Naniwa PvZ Naniwa ZvT Morrow ZvP Sheth, cant believe people forgot about him ZvZ Nerchio, he is the European Nestea of this matchup Not a huge fan of the list to be honest, I would swap out Sase, Stephano, Dimaga and Kas for Sheth, WhiteRa, Demuslim and Morrow. Although I'm not sure about taking out Stephano I could leave him in and leave Demuslim out. Sen isn't considered under zvz? The outrage. Guy beat Zenio 2-0 at the start of the NASL season, then again 2-1 in the finals. Also 3-1'd July for 3rd place. 68% win ratio overall in the matchup. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27271 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:52 Olinim wrote: Yeah Mana is doing well atm and MC is slumping but MC probably on a mechanical level has more ability than Mana, it's just his builds aren't working atmYou're delusional. MC took expansions in his PvP against MaNa. How much more macro based can you get in a PvP game? Calling MaNa better or even equal to MC is frankly an insult to the 2 time GSL Champion and MaNa himself would tell you as much. Puma is the only person MaNa has even beaten that MC wouldn't(or hasn't), and even in the tournament he did, guess who ended up winning? MC dwarfs MaNa in everything, winrates, accomplishments, head to head series, has outplaced him in every tourney they've both been in etc. To call him better is absurd. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On October 01 2011 11:56 Ubertron wrote: Yeah Mana is doing well atm and MC is slumping but MC probably on a mechanical level has more ability than Mana, it's just his builds aren't working atm It's not a probably. Even in a slump MC is ahead. At his peak they shouldn't be in the same sentence  . | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27271 Posts
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