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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 21 2011 20:55 GMT
#201
Awesome! I'm gonna give SlayerSRyung the title of the favourite for the tournament. He looks proper beastly right now in all 3 matchups. Oh and I hope TB gets that ridiculous visa issue sorted out!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
September 21 2011 20:56 GMT
#202
MC to come out of his slump starting this tournament



... I hope
you live and you learn
duckTemplar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States206 Posts
September 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#203
I feel 16 players advance from the onsite venue is a bit overkill, im not saying the local talent is bad, but I think pokebunny is the only one who lives in tristate who is a GM here, or u can call it metro new york area. I feel there should be more invites than just 8.

This is just my option. I know a lot NA master players near here. But we all know how they will stack against the kr masters
The first word Kerrigan said to Raynor was "...You Pig!", to Raynor's response "What? ... oh you're a psychic"
hjkim1304
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)105 Posts
September 21 2011 21:01 GMT
#204
wow nice first person view screen xDDD
phate
Profile Joined August 2010
81 Posts
September 21 2011 21:02 GMT
#205
On September 22 2011 05:45 Bobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:22 phate wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:13 Bobster wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I'm trying to find more info about the open bracket

The main event will be a 32 player Single Elimination championship tournament. The 32 spots for the main tournament will be determined as follows:

8 spots from 4 Global Online Qualifiers through Playhem.
16 spots decided by a 256 person Double Elimination Qualifiers on the venue.
8 spots reserved for invited players.
Four groups of 4 (each group consisting of 2 invitees and 2 from online qualifiers) will battle it out. This will determine the seeds into the Championship Bracket.

This is what I get from Liquipedia. Playing out groups just for seeding seems a bit over the top. Am I missing something here?
What's the concern? Fatigue won't be an issue because it's only three Bo3 over the course of a day.

The final bracket is single elimination, so players will want to get the best possible seed (which should eliminate throwing games).

Sounds fine to me.


If the players don't believe they have enough to play for, they have very little incentive to try their absolute best in the group stages. It may be beneficial for them to hold back BOs/styles for later, more important matches.

Not sure if it will actually play out this way, but I am interested to see what ends up happening.

Well, that's part of a tournament dynamic. If a player is confident enough to beat anyone and everyone anyway, he might not care about his group results. Then again, that holds true for any non-elimination group play.

I suppose you could have the last-placed player eliminated from the groups to increase the stakes - but that would raise other issues (such as having Open Bracket players go farther in the final bracket than invitees/qualified after only having to beat (supposedly) weaker players).

I'm fine with the way it's played out right now.


+ Show Spoiler +
To provide some historical reference: of course always playing your best is an unspoken rule of competition, but I as a German can never honestly argue against strategical moves like this since withholding our true strength in the group stage to beat Hungary in the finals is what won us the Football World Cup '54. :lol :lol


I would prefer that there is some form of elimination/other incentive. MLG's system as flawed as it is, does create plenty of incentives in the group stage to do well. I'm not sure what my suggested viable alternative would be, but within the current system, I can forsee plenty of situations (more so than most tournament formats) where it's beneficial for players to not play their best in the group stages.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
September 21 2011 21:02 GMT
#206
I think people are underestimating Boxer. Although he is in code B right now, he is still very very good. His TvT and TvZ is good enough to take out alive and Stephano. I could see him having problems with HuK but it's a coin flip.
Fox116
Profile Joined April 2011
United States409 Posts
September 21 2011 21:02 GMT
#207
Wow nice job IGN. You guys have a lot of stuff planned and amazing players. This is going to be a great IPL.
Scarabs always going off in my head!
Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
September 21 2011 21:06 GMT
#208
On September 22 2011 06:02 bucckevin wrote:
I think people are underestimating Boxer. Although he is in code B right now, he is still very very good. His TvT and TvZ is good enough to take out alive and Stephano. I could see him having problems with HuK but it's a coin flip.


actually zvt is stephano's best matchup, i think boxer will loose
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 21:06:31
September 21 2011 21:06 GMT
#209
So dignitas pick up RS? omg
they beat CLG and TSM in NY qualifier
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
September 21 2011 21:09 GMT
#210
1) MMA
2) Ryung
3) Thorzain


@ggmonx
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
September 21 2011 21:12 GMT
#211
So awesome, I can't wait to watch this tournament!
It removes my only previous issue with the IPL, which was the lack of excitement since the videos were released a while after the games were played, lowering the excitement for me at least
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
September 21 2011 21:14 GMT
#212
On September 22 2011 06:00 duckTemplar wrote:
I feel 16 players advance from the onsite venue is a bit overkill, im not saying the local talent is bad, but I think pokebunny is the only one who lives in tristate who is a GM here, or u can call it metro new york area. I feel there should be more invites than just 8.

This is just my option. I know a lot NA master players near here. But we all know how they will stack against the kr masters

Not to get on the bandwagon of hating NA grandmasters, but I don't even they could take a few games off these 16
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
September 21 2011 21:15 GMT
#213
looks like another tournament not worth watching due to the fact that they failed to get Tastosis
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 21:16:50
September 21 2011 21:16 GMT
#214
On September 22 2011 03:12 IGNProLeague wrote:

Player Vision - Main Stage - This stream will be a split screen feed showing the first-person view of each player in the current main stage game. You could turn on the free stream with our commentators and watch each player demonstrating their professional APM and never miss a thing!


i love you so much for that...and all the other stuff of course! you guys are amazing !
i hope after this event the daily viewers of the ipls will increase rapidly...because the ipl team gives nerdgasms nearly everyday !
keep it up!
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
September 21 2011 21:16 GMT
#215
On September 22 2011 06:15 devPLEASE wrote:
looks like another tournament not worth watching due to the fact that they failed to get Tastosis

Pretty sure you've seen them cast enough TvT. Is it really needed here as well?
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
September 21 2011 21:19 GMT
#216
WhiteRa versus MMA is one matchup I have never ever really considered happening. More exciting is if WhiteRa and Boxer face off in the championship bracket.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
September 21 2011 21:21 GMT
#217
So. Uber. Excited.

These pools all look so deadly!
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
September 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#218
On September 22 2011 04:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I'm trying to find more info about the open bracket

Show nested quote +
The main event will be a 32 player Single Elimination championship tournament. The 32 spots for the main tournament will be determined as follows:

8 spots from 4 Global Online Qualifiers through Playhem.
16 spots decided by a 256 person Double Elimination Qualifiers on the venue.
8 spots reserved for invited players.
Four groups of 4 (each group consisting of 2 invitees and 2 from online qualifiers) will battle it out. This will determine the seeds into the Championship Bracket.

This is what I get from Liquipedia. Playing out groups just for seeding seems a bit over the top. Am I missing something here?


Over the top, maybe but...
I think they have the tournament format this way so that the spectators get to see games many games from the pros over the course of the whole tournament, and not just when they happen by coincidence. It also removes the randomness of things like... Remember in MLG anaheim where slayers_alicia got knocked out of the open bracket fairly early? I'm sure a lot of spectators were disappointed with that, because they probably didn't get to see too much play from him. However, for a tournament organizer they can put him into the pool play to avoid something like that.


Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 21 2011 21:26 GMT
#219
On September 22 2011 06:00 duckTemplar wrote:
I feel 16 players advance from the onsite venue is a bit overkill, im not saying the local talent is bad, but I think pokebunny is the only one who lives in tristate who is a GM here, or u can call it metro new york area. I feel there should be more invites than just 8.

This is just my option. I know a lot NA master players near here. But we all know how they will stack against the kr masters


What makes you think it'll only be local players?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
JustinMartin
Profile Joined November 2010
159 Posts
September 21 2011 21:28 GMT
#220
League of legends,nice!
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