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On September 22 2011 07:00 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:59 Blasphemi wrote:On September 22 2011 05:51 Olinim wrote:On September 22 2011 05:47 Bobster wrote:On September 22 2011 05:41 DiaBoLuS wrote: Group 1 1 - Stephano
Group 2 1 - Ryung
Group 3 2 - ThorZaiN
Group 4 1 - MMA 4 - IdrA That's the part of your predictions I agree with. Everything else is wrong. :p On September 22 2011 05:46 Fabozi wrote: hope you guys wont die like CGS because the venue looks expensive. Hoping you won't because the tournament is looking awesome. And only two eu players qualified from the qualifiers. 6 Koreans, 2 EU players, 0 NA players, 0 SEA players. Goddamnit, Korea! Why do people think Ryung will beat MC? 4-0 overall record for MC and he beat him in a recent meeting too. Ryung is just mediocre in vP, and if MC can't beat him even sadder for protoss. MC also 3-0ed select and beat taeja who are better TvP players. All Korean Terran's are great vs Protoss right now. Yeah but they were 3 weeks ago when ryung lost to him too. Anyway with decent maps MC should win that series.
Was that the team league game where Ryung did some all in?
I agree that in a balanced match up MC takes him, but betting on any Protoss to beat a Code S Terran (and a really good Terran at that) is a bad bet imo.
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On September 22 2011 07:02 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:58 Lunas wrote:On September 22 2011 06:49 TERRANLOL wrote: What makes people think Stephano is so good? I'm not asking this implying anything about Stephano, but I actually haven't seen him compete with anyone :/ Where has Stephano been posting results? Ignorance is bliss. 1. First of all he actually qualified beating alot of good koreans, unlike some others that just get invited because they got alot of fans 2nd. He placed 3rd at Assembly Summer 2011 beating Sen, and many others. 1st place Sennheiser Cup. 1st place Master Series Finals. 3rd place LDLC Summer Trophy all good lans with tough opposition. At IEM he all-most knocked Puma out of the tournament was a really good serie TvZ. Showed that Stephano can compete with the best of the best at HSC 3 he beat Huk 2-0 quite easy and Huk went l8t on to win that tournament. He also got the highest win/lose ration EU ladder atm. Rank 1 There is a reason why his nickname is Wrecking Ball! But that's nothing compared to say Huk who won Dreamhack, Homestory and an MLG. Or Ret who won Assembly and EU Blizzcon Or Naniwa 2nd in TSL, 1st MLG. Thorzain 1st TSL, 2nd Dreamhack. and so on... No one thinks Stephano isn't good, it's just his hype extends well beyond his achievements right now. That's because the people earnestly predicting also take his level of play into account not only the results.
If we only go by past results, no one would ever predict an outsider/dark horse to win anything. But people do, and they do win. As a part-time player, Stephano is one of the best Zergs in the world - now he's going full-time and we're all expecting big things.
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On September 22 2011 07:02 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 06:58 Lunas wrote:On September 22 2011 06:49 TERRANLOL wrote: What makes people think Stephano is so good? I'm not asking this implying anything about Stephano, but I actually haven't seen him compete with anyone :/ Where has Stephano been posting results? Ignorance is bliss. 1. First of all he actually qualified beating alot of good koreans, unlike some others that just get invited because they got alot of fans 2nd. He placed 3rd at Assembly Summer 2011 beating Sen, and many others. 1st place Sennheiser Cup. 1st place Master Series Finals. 3rd place LDLC Summer Trophy all good lans with tough opposition. At IEM he all-most knocked Puma out of the tournament was a really good serie TvZ. Showed that Stephano can compete with the best of the best at HSC 3 he beat Huk 2-0 quite easy and Huk went l8t on to win that tournament. He also got the highest win/lose ration EU ladder atm. Rank 1 There is a reason why his nickname is Wrecking Ball! But that's nothing compared to say Huk who won Dreamhack, Homestory and an MLG. Or Ret who won Assembly and EU Blizzcon Or Naniwa 2nd in TSL, 1st MLG. Thorzain 1st TSL, 2nd Dreamhack. and so on... No one thinks Stephano isn't good, it's just his hype extends well beyond his achievements right now.
Yes it is Assemply summer is much bigger then blisscon invitational where only 8 players get invited and where is more about getting lucky with the brackets then anything els. You could also say not the best players in EU where there.
Yes Huk has won Dreamhack and mlg like 4 months and allmost 1 year ago alot can happened. Stephano is on the top of his game atm and Huk lost last time to Stephano . Huk is an amasing player and he is still rank 1 on my pound4pound list on best foreign player. Im not saying Huk cant beat Stephano but its not gonna be easy
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On September 22 2011 07:03 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 07:00 Olinim wrote:On September 22 2011 06:59 Blasphemi wrote:On September 22 2011 05:51 Olinim wrote:On September 22 2011 05:47 Bobster wrote:On September 22 2011 05:41 DiaBoLuS wrote: Group 1 1 - Stephano
Group 2 1 - Ryung
Group 3 2 - ThorZaiN
Group 4 1 - MMA 4 - IdrA That's the part of your predictions I agree with. Everything else is wrong. :p On September 22 2011 05:46 Fabozi wrote: hope you guys wont die like CGS because the venue looks expensive. Hoping you won't because the tournament is looking awesome. And only two eu players qualified from the qualifiers. 6 Koreans, 2 EU players, 0 NA players, 0 SEA players. Goddamnit, Korea! Why do people think Ryung will beat MC? 4-0 overall record for MC and he beat him in a recent meeting too. Ryung is just mediocre in vP, and if MC can't beat him even sadder for protoss. MC also 3-0ed select and beat taeja who are better TvP players. All Korean Terran's are great vs Protoss right now. Yeah but they were 3 weeks ago when ryung lost to him too. Anyway with decent maps MC should win that series. Was that the team league game where Ryung did some all in? I agree that in a balanced match up MC takes him, but betting on any Protoss to beat a Code S Terran (and a really good Terran at that) is a bad bet imo. It was a macro game :D. Anyway MC still beats really good terrans(ryung taeja 3-0 select) so I don't know why people write him off in this group, his vZ failed him in GSL though.
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Beating Socke, Revival, Puzzle, Kiwikaki and MMA in a row in Bo3s.
Sick achievement.
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On September 22 2011 07:13 Bobster wrote:Beating Socke, Revival, Puzzle, Kiwikaki and MMA in a row in Bo3s. Sick achievement.
uhm... of course it is. I wouldn't bet on Stephano though. I think he might be tilting a bit with all the recent drama...
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Wow Stephano actually beat MMA in the qualifiers... Can't wait for that tournament
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On September 22 2011 07:19 Vadrigar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 07:13 Bobster wrote:Beating Socke, Revival, Puzzle, Kiwikaki and MMA in a row in Bo3s. Sick achievement. uhm... of course it is. I wouldn't bet on Stephano though. I think he might be tilting a bit with all the recent drama... Oh yeah, it'll be very interesting to see if him [not] changing teams affected him negatively in any way.
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On September 22 2011 07:06 Lunas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 07:02 Blasphemi wrote:On September 22 2011 06:58 Lunas wrote:On September 22 2011 06:49 TERRANLOL wrote: What makes people think Stephano is so good? I'm not asking this implying anything about Stephano, but I actually haven't seen him compete with anyone :/ Where has Stephano been posting results? Ignorance is bliss. 1. First of all he actually qualified beating alot of good koreans, unlike some others that just get invited because they got alot of fans 2nd. He placed 3rd at Assembly Summer 2011 beating Sen, and many others. 1st place Sennheiser Cup. 1st place Master Series Finals. 3rd place LDLC Summer Trophy all good lans with tough opposition. At IEM he all-most knocked Puma out of the tournament was a really good serie TvZ. Showed that Stephano can compete with the best of the best at HSC 3 he beat Huk 2-0 quite easy and Huk went l8t on to win that tournament. He also got the highest win/lose ration EU ladder atm. Rank 1 There is a reason why his nickname is Wrecking Ball! But that's nothing compared to say Huk who won Dreamhack, Homestory and an MLG. Or Ret who won Assembly and EU Blizzcon Or Naniwa 2nd in TSL, 1st MLG. Thorzain 1st TSL, 2nd Dreamhack. and so on... No one thinks Stephano isn't good, it's just his hype extends well beyond his achievements right now. Yes it is Assemply summer is much bigger then blisscon invitational where only 8 players get invited and where is more about getting lucky with the brackets then anything els. You could also say not the best players in EU where there. Yes Huk has won Dreamhack and mlg like 4 months and allmost 1 year ago alot can happened. Stephano is on the top of his game atm and Huk lost last time to Stephano . Huk is an amasing player and he is still rank 1 on my pound4pound list on best foreign player. Im not saying Huk cant beat Stephano but its not gonna be easy
I'm fairly sure there was more money for Blizzcon EU and the quality of players was higher are at least the same. No to mention Ret actually won, rather than coming third.
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Blasphemi, do you have to hate on stephano/nerchio and other eu players in every thread. Take a break dude. Here is an idea, when people make these predictions they don't only pick people that already won something several months ago, they look at their current form :OO shocker
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Really looking forward to this. Such a sick lineup of players ^_^
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Words cannot describe how incredibly excited I am for this
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Wow check out those sponsors, that is some serious big name sponsors. They even have harrah's as a sponsor!!!! I will seriously support these sponsors as much as i possibly can, this is awesome.
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sick, sick games... boxer v stephano? boxer v huk? ryung v strelok? MMA v WhiteRa? this could definitely be the best tourney in quite a long time, hope it is double elimination.
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Do players get a swaggg baggg
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I wish i hadn't spent most of my money going to two MLG's this summer so I could attend this. Not that I didn't like MLG, but this tournament just looks so sick!
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On September 22 2011 07:25 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 07:06 Lunas wrote:On September 22 2011 07:02 Blasphemi wrote:On September 22 2011 06:58 Lunas wrote:On September 22 2011 06:49 TERRANLOL wrote: What makes people think Stephano is so good? I'm not asking this implying anything about Stephano, but I actually haven't seen him compete with anyone :/ Where has Stephano been posting results? Ignorance is bliss. 1. First of all he actually qualified beating alot of good koreans, unlike some others that just get invited because they got alot of fans 2nd. He placed 3rd at Assembly Summer 2011 beating Sen, and many others. 1st place Sennheiser Cup. 1st place Master Series Finals. 3rd place LDLC Summer Trophy all good lans with tough opposition. At IEM he all-most knocked Puma out of the tournament was a really good serie TvZ. Showed that Stephano can compete with the best of the best at HSC 3 he beat Huk 2-0 quite easy and Huk went l8t on to win that tournament. He also got the highest win/lose ration EU ladder atm. Rank 1 There is a reason why his nickname is Wrecking Ball! But that's nothing compared to say Huk who won Dreamhack, Homestory and an MLG. Or Ret who won Assembly and EU Blizzcon Or Naniwa 2nd in TSL, 1st MLG. Thorzain 1st TSL, 2nd Dreamhack. and so on... No one thinks Stephano isn't good, it's just his hype extends well beyond his achievements right now. Yes it is Assemply summer is much bigger then blisscon invitational where only 8 players get invited and where is more about getting lucky with the brackets then anything els. You could also say not the best players in EU where there. Yes Huk has won Dreamhack and mlg like 4 months and allmost 1 year ago alot can happened. Stephano is on the top of his game atm and Huk lost last time to Stephano . Huk is an amasing player and he is still rank 1 on my pound4pound list on best foreign player. Im not saying Huk cant beat Stephano but its not gonna be easy I'm fairly sure there was more money for Blizzcon EU and the quality of players was higher are at least the same. No to mention Ret actually won, rather than coming third.
results aint all. huk and ret are on a top level for a much longer time and played like 5 times more tournaments offline. its natural that stephano cannot have the achievements yet. but... watch this kid play! thats all i can say 
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On September 22 2011 06:49 TERRANLOL wrote: What makes people think Stephano is so good? I'm not asking this implying anything about Stephano, but I actually haven't seen him compete with anyone :/ Where has Stephano been posting results?
You should definitly check his stream, this guy is completly insane, he's 1 EU GM and at the moment he s losing like 1 game for 20 wins, playing funny strats that his streamers are asking him to do.
I m not a zerg fan but putting aside all the drama etc he's really talented. If you are still not conviced check his qualifier matches, beating mma, puzzle, revival, socke isn't something everyone can pull off
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