EPTNo Chinese player at BlizzCon due visa problem - Page 9
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
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PrimeTimey
Canada369 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:58 baubo wrote: The reason is very simple. Because US bureaucracy is horrible and way behind the times. That America shoots itself in the foot to deny tourists $$$$ out of the stupid fear of "taking American jobs that no one else wants" is retarded to say the least. You are correct in that there's no "logical" reason why this should be the case. What? They fear Xigua will take Idra's job as America's BM zerg player and put Idra out of a job? It's ludicrous, but that's actually their fear. I literally laughed out loud at the stupidity of this post, good education system they got in China. hahahaha | ||
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rO_Or
United States306 Posts
On September 22 2011 07:08 Tula wrote: that's kind of what i meant. If a big athelete (or a player for a big club) gets such problems, the club or sports association tries (and usually succeeds) to sort them out. With esports we lack the clout necessary to do something like that. Maybe Blizzard has the necessary clout but so far, they haven't used it (e.g. Bratok NASL problems). Blizzard is nowhere near the size and power of the companies behind nation/international sports. Traveling is a shitty situation over here in the US since 9/11 and Blizzard is most definitely not influential enough to change this. | ||
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rO_Or
United States306 Posts
On September 22 2011 07:23 PrimeTimey wrote: I literally laughed out loud at the stupidity of this post, good education system they got in China. hahahaha Haha yea that post made me laugh to. Someone from China talking about behind the times governments lol. | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On September 22 2011 06:16 Velr wrote: For the countries I was it works like this (bunch of european ones, Turkye, South Korea): I go to the Airport. Show my passport. Fly Show my passport Leave the Airport. Now.... if you want to go to the US... You will basically get anal raped by various ranges of burocracy depending on the country you are from and how "nice" the US thinks of it  .National security son! Gotta keep them suspicious places in check 'cause you never know when one might try to send a spy or a terrorist over. It pays to be a winner and when you're on top you got a lot of BAD people out there trying to do harm or harbor evil-doers with which to inflict harm against you! Obviously you non-history makers need not worry about the threat we face, although we urge you to tighten up your own security as well. /neocon | ||
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Plutonik
Canada329 Posts
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Pugget
United States212 Posts
On September 20 2011 23:26 Velr wrote: They should just stop with these kind of events in the US and instead do them in Asia/EU wherever they don't have as moronic Visa processes (wich is probably about everywhere else except for some of the harshest dictatorships on the planet)... Says the man from Switzerland, which has the hardest visa process in Schengen Europe, and a country under investigation for violating their Schengen obligations. You're right though. Some major academic conferences have already pulled away from the U.S. because researchers were regularly being denied entry to present their papers. America no longer wants to be the leading nation in science apparently. Edit: I suppose I should mention that I worked in the Swiss university system for almost seven years, and come from a US academic background, so I'm far too familiar with both visa systems. The Swiss system is much, much better than the American system, but it's still very prejudicial based on origin. | ||
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Pugget
United States212 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:15 Hikari wrote: wow what? denied instantly? US doesnt like chinese visitors? Weird, maybe they should try again another day and ask for a reason for the decline. The US never gives a precise reason for declining a visa. This would allow the applicant to fix the problem. And no, I'm not joking. | ||
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DrPhilOfdOOm
Sweden353 Posts
I count on the chineese to do well to next blizzcon when they have had much more time to practise. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
(1) This protects American jobs by making sure that Freedom lovers have a better chance at a greater portion of the prize pool. (2) Industrial espionage; Two chinese progamers would sneak into the country and steal all of our secrets. All of them. Including how to get your domestic PvT record > 50% | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:31 Sabu113 wrote: This is good for two reasons: (1) This protects American jobs by making sure that Freedom lovers have a better chance at a greater portion of the prize pool. (2) Industrial espionage; Two chinese progamers would sneak into the country and steal all of our secrets. All of them. Including how to get your domestic PvT record > 50% #2 made me giggle. I think blizzard may be able to aid the issue, I believe they've done it in the past (i think it was Dimaga? that they helped with visa problems? I DONT KNOW I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED SOMETHING LIKE THIS DONT SHOOT ME IF IM TOTALLY WRONG.) | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:26 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote: I don't really care to be completly honest. Because the truth is that chineese players are not very skilled. That's only because they got the game almost a year after everyone else. So it's understandable. I count on the chineese to do well to next blizzcon when they have had much more time to practise. We all want to see them at an international event so we can properly gauge their skill. All we have right now is the CPL and I don't think top players like Xigua were available to play in that. Its a shame, hopefully it can get sorted out. Otherwise I wonder what they'll do with the remaining places, I hope they invite the next 2 players in the GSL rankings, which I thinkare MC and then Polt or MK (or Thorzain for coming 3rd at the EU invitational). | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:26 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote: I don't really care to be completly honest. Because the truth is that chineese players are not very skilled. That's only because they got the game almost a year after everyone else. So it's understandable. I count on the chineese to do well to next blizzcon when they have had much more time to practise. Huh? They've been playing since the beta and the only major international tournament I can think of that there were a decent amount of Chinese players involved in they were able to knock out NesTea, Dimaga, MarineKing, Idra and a bunch more good players. It was mostly online, sure, but that's all the more reason to see how they shape up on LAN because, based on the limited data we, have they could be the second best country in the world. | ||
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purecarnagge
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On September 24 2011 05:26 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote: I don't really care to be completly honest. Because the truth is that chineese players are not very skilled. That's only because they got the game almost a year after everyone else. So it's understandable. I count on the chineese to do well to next blizzcon when they have had much more time to practise. Most of the top Chinese players have been playing with Koreans since the Beta. Last Blizzcon, a Chinese player got silver to the winning Korean, and in the only major international tournament to include more than a handful of Chinese players, the semifinals consisted of MC and three Chinese players. They haven't logged significant results at lans, but from what little they've shown, the top Chinese players (mostly ex top tier War3 pros) are extremely skilled. Many Korean invites to StarsWar even said that the Chinese players were on par with top Koreans. | ||
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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
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Buddhist
United States658 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote: I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_- That's because the US is a tyrannical police state. It's just thinly veiled, unlike China. | ||
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