EPTStatement of Millenium on the Stephano situation - Page 28
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Bandino
United States342 Posts
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esotericc
449 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Neoattitude
Guam172 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:21 Whiplash wrote: Col released a transparent statement of their view of everything that happened, you guys still haven't. I don't like to get into the habit of doing this but +1 | ||
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Piotr
26 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:54 esotericc wrote: I feel like the only one taking advantage of stephano and his age in this whole thing is Mill, a permanent contract is just a bad idea no matter who you are. Not at all. It is the best contract that you can have in France. I encourage you to learn more about French labour laws and work contract. I wrote one post that can help you to find some resources : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506¤tpage=21#406 | ||
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:21 MGN wrote: i guess this is better than nothing This is worse than nothing, CoL made a statement, Mil is trying to sweep it under the carpet. | ||
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Brotocol
243 Posts
On September 21 2011 08:23 Emporio wrote: So basically they tried to screw Stephano by shortchanging him on a contract increase, ended up losing him to coL which is the whole point of bidding wars, and got pissy because it makes them look bad to other French spectators, causing all this drama? Good post, I think that's exactly what it sounds like. It sounds innocent when they say "Millenium lost their best player in their sleep, with no chance to get him back." But it really sounds like Mill was taking advantage of Stephano by not signing anything with him. Mill deliberately did not secure exclusive rights to Stephano, because this is convenient for them as employers and lets them shortchange him. And now Mill is trying to make an exclusive rights claim to Stephano, which they had not secured. Note: It's widely accepted that exclusivity results in higher pay. You have to pay players more to keep them yours. So it looks like Millenium was avoiding the situation of paying for exclusivity. If I were Stephano, I would be disturbed by the unscrupulous behavior coming from Mill. Mill is only now prepared to commit to Stephano as a last resort, and I question whether Stephano should want to work with people who only appear to care about using him. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On September 21 2011 12:50 Neoattitude wrote: I don't like to get into the habit of doing this but +1 Way to read one page and the +1 it... Nice | ||
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KunA
United States46 Posts
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iSometric
2221 Posts
On September 21 2011 12:58 GreEny K wrote: Way to read one page and the +1 it... Nice Your post is not 1% better then his if you think his quoting of a comment on the first page is useless... Anywho, imo, Mill is not gonna end up on the up side no matter what. Sucks for stephano though, being in the middle of this drama. | ||
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VonDarkmore
Australia192 Posts
But this PR? Whichever member of your staff thought it up or wrote it, think about letting some other team have them you’ll be better off. To get the right word in the right place is a rare achievement. To condense the diffused light of a page into the luminous flash of a single sentence, is worthy to rank as a prize composition just by itself...Anybody can write a statement, the difficulty is to express all your points and information without squandering a quire of paper on it that ought to be reduced to one glittering paragraph To explain it As you may now know, it has been announced yesterday that Stephano had been hired by team Complexity, and a few hours later, that he had finally decided to sign a permanent position contract with us, Millenium, under conditions previously fixed with him (without any intermediate overbidding). Although we are very confident that, from a legal point of view, Millenium isn’t violating any applicable rule or law, we would also like to emphasize our good will to see this situation solved the right way. We now want to enter a discussion phase with coL to try and find a solution consistent with the professionalism and respectful practices in the growing scene of eSport that both structures wish to promote and support. If anything, this unfortunate series of event has pointed out the impending necessity to ease worldwide communication between structures, and players, to avoid this kind of situation from ever occurring again. To our fans and to all the people supporting eSport in general, we want to thank you for your everlasting support and for your interest in the values that should be carried by eSport structures. As for the people who may have been disappointed, shocked or offended, we would like you to understand that Internet gossip is not always ground truth, and that things are often more complicated than they might seem to be. We would like to apologize for the long time it took us to release a statement, but the last two days have been very stressful and exhausting for everyone involved. In addition, very practical difficulties ranging from busy schedules to time differences partially account for some of the mistakes or misunderstandings that might have led to this complicated situation. Hoping that you will understand us, The Millenium Staff All the useful information from this was: Yesterday Stephano was hired by complexity, and a few hours later he decided to sign a permanent position contract with us. Although we are confident that, from a legal point of view, Millenium isn’t violating any applicable rule or law, we would like to resolve this situation as soon as possible. We want to start discussions with Complexity whenever they are ready. The last paragraph is unnecessary everyone here is intelligent we know the internet is full of gossip. As your stress and exhaustion my father lost a close family member the stress and exhaustion did not stop him from writing a beautiful and well structured piece for the news paper for them. | ||
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Xouh
France26 Posts
Contradiction in bold. Maybe Stephano finally don't want to become a Stream-singer ? | ||
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rei
United States3593 Posts
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Brotocol
243 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:40 Xouh wrote: Complexity wrote : "For the next 18 days we conducted negotiations. We would make an offer and Millenium would make a counter offer. At no point did we apply pressure other than to make it clear that we were willing to do what it would take to secure his services.' Contradiction in bold. Maybe Stephano finally don't want to become a Stream-singer ? France, 14 posts. Ulterior motive in bold. PS: What you bolded is not the slightest bit contradictory. PPS: I'm Canadian, but if a Canadian league did this, I would not support them. You should be ashamed for basing your judgment solely on your nationality. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Complexity Gaming: "We're going to do as much as we can to ensure signing a contract means something, in spite of how lame this situation is for everyone we are obligated" Millenium: "We fart in your general direction" | ||
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Xouh
France26 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:47 Brotocol wrote: France, 14 posts. Ulterior motive in bold. PS: What you bolded is not the slightest bit contradictory. (Don't care about my posts number ?) Yes this is contradiction 'cause, if you are harass with "travel around the world, and best payed player " for 18 days, you ARE under pressure. | ||
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TurtlePerson2
United States218 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:21 Whiplash wrote: Col released a transparent statement of their view of everything that happened, you guys still haven't. Exactly. In general, the more transparent party is the party in the right. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:52 Xouh wrote: if you are harass with "travel around the world, and best payed player " Holy fuck. Can I get some of that harassment? | ||
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
On September 21 2011 13:52 Xouh wrote: (Don't care about my posts number ?) Yes this is contradiction 'cause, if you are harass with "travel around the world, and best payed player " for 18 days, you ARE under pressure. You are calling almost 3 weeks to decide "pressure"? LMFAO. Have you ever been recruited professionally? | ||
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Lunas
253 Posts
On September 21 2011 12:45 docvoc wrote: Millenium is in a lose lose situation, if they say we were wrong they give up stephano after possibly coercing (i say this as a jab to what they have accused CoL of doing) him to stay and then accusing CoL of coercing stephano. Stephano is really good but he won't last, his play is incredible to watch but its foreign good, not korea good, he is not even close to sen or nestea right now. He could become this good if he joins a bigger team but right now his entire livelihood hangs in the balance, if this doesn't get settled soon he won't be big on the sponsorship list since this will follow him for a while. I hope CoL either sues the living shit out of Millenium, or Millenium somehow releases a statement showing that they aren't violating a presigned contract. If none of the above happen, i hope stephano somehow makes it out with his career intact, ToD did it, now its his turn. Millenium is pretty much dead and this would be the nail in the coffin it seems. He beat Sen 2-0 at Assemply summer. He has beat so many koreans l8tly in IPL he allmost knocked Puma out at IEM where he also beat Sase 2-0 I think you preatty clueless to Stephano tbh | ||
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