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At this point it feels like Mill is the most dodgy, wonderchild a bit less. Everyone talks about how Sthepano is this supersmart kid that can play SC2 with his left pinkie while operating with his left elbow, so I don't buy this story about a confused kid.
This statement is nothing, just word without meaning.
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On September 21 2011 03:20 Panthae wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:11 ThirdDegree wrote:On September 20 2011 22:43 Roggay wrote:
Can we have a statement from Stephano? He is the only to know the whole story. No, he is still too disoriented from coL LOL!
Thaaaaat sounds like a meme being born....
Not sure that all this fuss is warranted from a player who has a time limit of one year for being in programing anyway. Do you really want to invest attention on somebody, no matter how good, who will be gone before the next presidential election?
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On September 21 2011 03:20 Mazer wrote:
You can pretty much ignore daviday from now on as he's not rational at all. He honestly thinks Stephano staying in France is not a missed opportunity.
Do you even know what he wants to do and why do you care as much ? Maybe he has changed his mind and won't go to Korea, maybe Millenium will send him there or maybe he will just play in European tourneys etc...
Reminds me of the people who blamed Seth when he left FXO. It is his choice, not yours.
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On September 20 2011 22:21 Whiplash wrote:
Col released a transparent statement of their view of everything that happened, you guys still haven't.
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User was warned for this post
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On September 21 2011 03:28 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 02:58 daviday wrote:
Things is , as lewelys said they doesnt care about gossips :
1st - Everyone will have forgoten about that in 1 week.
2nd- if teams doesnt want stephano because of that story ( witch im Sure will never happen ) , how can that be a bad news for millenium ?
3rd - i dont see how it would have any backfire on stephano regarding us tourney and stuff , since MLG keep asking players from millenium to join their tourney.
1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. On September 21 2011 03:00 daviday wrote:
BTW when Liquid took HuK from millenium there was 0 trouble... that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Daviday's Guide to Business: Before hiring an employee, make sure you tell all your competitors that you're hiring him so they have a chance to check if they should offer him a better deal. If you don't do this, you have a lack of professionalism.
Shiii... I was gonna go to devry to get my business degree, Who knew Daviday's School of Business would be so SUPER! /sarcasm
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If anything, I feel sorry for Stephano to have to go thru all of this.
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On September 21 2011 03:28 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 02:58 daviday wrote:
Things is , as lewelys said they doesnt care about gossips :
1st - Everyone will have forgoten about that in 1 week.
2nd- if teams doesnt want stephano because of that story ( witch im Sure will never happen ) , how can that be a bad news for millenium ?
3rd - i dont see how it would have any backfire on stephano regarding us tourney and stuff , since MLG keep asking players from millenium to join their tourney.
1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. On September 21 2011 03:00 daviday wrote:
BTW when Liquid took HuK from millenium there was 0 trouble... that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Daviday's Guide to Business: Before hiring an employee, make sure you tell all your competitors that you're hiring him so they have a chance to check if they should offer him a better deal. If you don't do this, you have a lack of professionalism.
No you can also do it like a shark with no ethic at all, but then the shark with the most argument win , in that case millenium  .
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On September 21 2011 03:28 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 02:58 daviday wrote:
Things is , as lewelys said they doesnt care about gossips :
1st - Everyone will have forgoten about that in 1 week.
2nd- if teams doesnt want stephano because of that story ( witch im Sure will never happen ) , how can that be a bad news for millenium ?
3rd - i dont see how it would have any backfire on stephano regarding us tourney and stuff , since MLG keep asking players from millenium to join their tourney.
1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. On September 21 2011 03:00 daviday wrote:
BTW when Liquid took HuK from millenium there was 0 trouble... that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Daviday's Guide to Business: Before hiring an employee, make sure you tell all your competitors that you're hiring him so they have a chance to check if they should offer him a better deal. If you don't do this, you have a lack of professionalism.
*before hiring an officially unemployed person wearing competitor provided clothing, be sure to inform the competitor of your intentions.
I personally think that CoL went about this completely professionally, because while this is similar to the EG/TSL thing in that an uncontracted player was taken, the culture of Korea and the rest of the world is quite different.
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Canada1509 Posts
What the... what did I just read? It felt like there should have been some sort of statement in all that text, but I ended up walking away with absolutely nothing. Basically just, "We want to resolve the issue and don't believe all the gossip you hear". Okay, but is that calling Complexity's statement gossip, or simply not addressing Complexity's pretty transparent record of events + course of action?
Still waiting on a statement from Millennium regarding the Stephano controversy.
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On September 21 2011 03:30 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:20 Mazer wrote:
You can pretty much ignore daviday from now on as he's not rational at all. He honestly thinks Stephano staying in France is not a missed opportunity. Do you even know what he wants to do and why do you care as much ? Maybe he has changed his mind and won't go to Korea, maybe Millenium will send him there or maybe he will just play in European tourneys etc... Reminds me of the people who blamed Seth when he left FXO. It is his choice, not yours.
He was arguing that Stephano is better off developing with Mill while coL has a much more global presence especially with their MVP partnership. I never said a word about Stephano's personal intentions.
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Calgary25998 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:33 daviday wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:28 Chill wrote:On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 02:58 daviday wrote:
Things is , as lewelys said they doesnt care about gossips :
1st - Everyone will have forgoten about that in 1 week.
2nd- if teams doesnt want stephano because of that story ( witch im Sure will never happen ) , how can that be a bad news for millenium ?
3rd - i dont see how it would have any backfire on stephano regarding us tourney and stuff , since MLG keep asking players from millenium to join their tourney.
1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. On September 21 2011 03:00 daviday wrote:
BTW when Liquid took HuK from millenium there was 0 trouble... that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Daviday's Guide to Business: Before hiring an employee, make sure you tell all your competitors that you're hiring him so they have a chance to check if they should offer him a better deal. If you don't do this, you have a lack of professionalism. No you can also do it like a shark with no ethic at all, but then the shark with the most argument win , in that case millenium .
Daviday's Guide to Ethics:
1. Hiring an unemployed person as a contractor before telling all your competitors is unethical.
1a. Finding a loophole in your competitor's contract and using that to void it and reissue your own contract before your competitor realizes is, however, ethical if you're French.
rev. 01
1. Being non-French is unethical.
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On September 21 2011 03:29 daviday wrote:
1. it have nothing to do with being elitist , it just more practical , making a team , a portal and a community is really hard. Only americain / uk team have enough english speaking people following them for them to create an international community.
3. What i mean is that , if players want / think about joining millenium , they will ask other team member of millenium ( Tarson , Stephano , Adel , Lalush , etc. ) If every promess have been kept by the organisation. I dont belive they care about the gossips/trolls from TL.NET.
Last point Mill >>>>> coL , this team got no good player , maybe Trimaster but thats pretty mutch it.
I agree on the " Korea > france " but stephano will go to korea whatsoever... lewelys said it again yesterday.
Millenium TV is the most viewed webtv in france , in all category. they have 3.5 - 4k viewer minimum for any shit show they do at anytime of the day.
Also as Lewelys said , he is still allowed to stream on justin TV , in his contract he jut got to stream a certain amount of team on the millenium TV each week, for witch he STILL get all the money.
Just a heads up, but if anything at this point you are just making things look worse to outsiders. Your (and others) posts make Mil and the community surrounding it look EXTREMELY xenophobic and nationalistic. I don't really have a problem with that if that really is the case, but it won't make the whole situation right in other people's minds.
If anything it will make people think that Stephano was pulled aside after he signed teh contract and was reminded/threatened about about French pride, and how joining an evil American team is bad for the country. If that is somehow actually the case, and he is too scared to say anything about it, then that REALLY IS a shame.
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On September 21 2011 03:28 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 02:58 daviday wrote:
Things is , as lewelys said they doesnt care about gossips :
1st - Everyone will have forgoten about that in 1 week.
2nd- if teams doesnt want stephano because of that story ( witch im Sure will never happen ) , how can that be a bad news for millenium ?
3rd - i dont see how it would have any backfire on stephano regarding us tourney and stuff , since MLG keep asking players from millenium to join their tourney.
1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. On September 21 2011 03:00 daviday wrote:
BTW when Liquid took HuK from millenium there was 0 trouble... that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Daviday's Guide to Business: Before hiring an employee, make sure you tell all your competitors that you're hiring him so they have a chance to check if they should offer him a better deal. If you don't do this, you have a lack of professionalism.
Chill AND Kennigit trolling this thread? my life is complete.
On September 21 2011 03:29 daviday wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:17 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 02:58 daviday wrote:
Things is , as lewelys said they doesnt care about gossips :
1st - Everyone will have forgoten about that in 1 week.
2nd- if teams doesnt want stephano because of that story ( witch im Sure will never happen ) , how can that be a bad news for millenium ?
3rd - i dont see how it would have any backfire on stephano regarding us tourney and stuff , since MLG keep asking players from millenium to join their tourney.
1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. On September 21 2011 03:00 daviday wrote:
BTW when Liquid took HuK from millenium there was 0 trouble... that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. 1. I believe you, from first hand experience. I have no clue whatsoever why you're trying to be so elitist with your 2-pump chump esports scene but clearly if your players were that amazing we would've been interested a long time ago. 2. I never said it was Millenium's fault? Considering they haven't said anything relevant in the past 48h I won't even jump to conclusions. 3. [M]'s and it's players's opinions mean absolutely nothing if they dont even release a statement that makes sense or tries to explain something. You want your exclusive french scene, congratulations you might have gotten it! coL.MVP > Millenium. Korea > France. I'd say that's a huge opportunity he missed. If he IS quitting in a year, wouldn't it be in his best interest to make as much money as possible? Oh wait, nvm now he can't he'll be limited to a 1k audience. 1. it have nothing to do with being elitist , it just more practical , making a team , a portal and a community is really hard. Only americain / uk team have enough english speaking people following them for them to create an international community. 3. What i mean is that , if players want / think about joining millenium , they will ask other team member of millenium ( Tarson , Stephano , Adel , Lalush , etc. ) If every promess have been kept by the organisation. I dont belive they care about the gossips/trolls from TL.NET. Last point Mill >>>>> coL , this team got no good player , maybe Trimaster but thats pretty mutch it. I agree on the " Korea > france " but stephano will go to korea whatsoever... lewelys said it again yesterday. Millenium TV is the most viewed webtv in france , in all category. they have 3.5 - 4k viewer minimum for any shit show they do at anytime of the day. Also as Lewelys said , he is still allowed to stream on justin TV , in his contract he jut got to stream a certain amount of team on the millenium TV each week, for witch he STILL get all the money.
practical? so I guess you have zero ambition? you do realize that the french esports scene is stagnating, at this point you're not expanding at all. I can't see a difference from when I was involved in it (and that goes back to about a year ago).
I honestly doubt any international player will join Mill after this, you're going to be left with french players and maybe some european players. They won't believe trolls/gossip, but they surely will believe the amazing lack of PR and how badly they handle drama on the BIGGEST esports forum there is.
any shit show? you saying the french are easily entertained? lol.
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many people have hinted at it, but I'll come out and say it: Millenium strong armed Stephano into signing a contract. You guys can say what you want, but this is what it looks like to me.
Stephano signs with coL, starts getting to know his new team. Then suddenly the next day he changes his mind the next day?
If he really did it, it just looks bad on him. It's pretty low to sign something and then go back on it, that reflects poorly on Stephano. But come on, do you really think he just changed his mind on a whim? After a few hours of talking to his new team? Did they even practice any?
I think its just illogical to even think this that is what happened. It doesn't even make sense. People don't just magically turn down a great offer over night. At the end of the day, Millenium can claim he changed his mind, but I for one am not buying it. Someone got to Stephano. I mean why is Millenium being so defense about this if its not them thats involved? They didn't say this was all Stephanos' decision and we had nothing to do with it? Instead they say this:
"Although we are very confident that, from a legal point of view, Millenium isn’t violating any applicable rule or law"
Don't they mean Stephano? Some food for thought guys. Just sayin
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Canada1509 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:32 decaf wrote:
If anything, I feel sorry for Stephano to have to go thru all of this.
My preliminary opinion is to actually blame Stephano for all of this. Assuming Complexity's record of events is 100% true, the guy signed with Complexity, then ignored his contract and re-signed with Millennium. Wtf?
I'm keeping it preliminary since I'm still waiting for Millennium to actually say something that has meaning, and not a complete side-step like this thread OP is.
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Case closed.
Lets focus on what really matters, namely, starcraft 2 and those superb players, stephano included that make e-sports great.
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On September 21 2011 03:38 thebig1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:29 daviday wrote:
1. it have nothing to do with being elitist , it just more practical , making a team , a portal and a community is really hard. Only americain / uk team have enough english speaking people following them for them to create an international community.
3. What i mean is that , if players want / think about joining millenium , they will ask other team member of millenium ( Tarson , Stephano , Adel , Lalush , etc. ) If every promess have been kept by the organisation. I dont belive they care about the gossips/trolls from TL.NET.
Last point Mill >>>>> coL , this team got no good player , maybe Trimaster but thats pretty mutch it.
I agree on the " Korea > france " but stephano will go to korea whatsoever... lewelys said it again yesterday.
Millenium TV is the most viewed webtv in france , in all category. they have 3.5 - 4k viewer minimum for any shit show they do at anytime of the day.
Also as Lewelys said , he is still allowed to stream on justin TV , in his contract he jut got to stream a certain amount of team on the millenium TV each week, for witch he STILL get all the money.
Just a heads up, but if anything at this point you are just making things look worse to outsiders. Your (and others) posts make Mil and the community surrounding it look EXTREMELY xenophobic and nationalistic. I don't really have a problem with that if that really is the case, but it won't make the whole situation right in other people's minds. If anything it will make people think that Stephano was pulled aside after he signed teh contract and was reminded/threatened about about French pride, and how joining an evil American team is bad for the country. If that is somehow actually the case, and he is too scared to say anything about it, then that REALLY IS a shame.
OFcourse he was pulled by millenium...
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On September 21 2011 03:36 stormfoxSC wrote:
What the... what did I just read? It felt like there should have been some sort of statement in all that text, but I ended up walking away with absolutely nothing. Basically just, "We want to resolve the issue and don't believe all the gossip you hear". Okay, but is that calling Complexity's statement gossip, or simply not addressing Complexity's pretty transparent record of events + course of action?
Still waiting on a statement from Millennium regarding the Stephano controversy.
This. Sounds like Millenium is just holding back simply because they know they are in the wrong. Embarassing, and extremely unprofessional to have a "statement" without an actual statement.
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Calgary25998 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:46 daviday wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:38 thebig1 wrote:On September 21 2011 03:29 daviday wrote:
1. it have nothing to do with being elitist , it just more practical , making a team , a portal and a community is really hard. Only americain / uk team have enough english speaking people following them for them to create an international community.
3. What i mean is that , if players want / think about joining millenium , they will ask other team member of millenium ( Tarson , Stephano , Adel , Lalush , etc. ) If every promess have been kept by the organisation. I dont belive they care about the gossips/trolls from TL.NET.
Last point Mill >>>>> coL , this team got no good player , maybe Trimaster but thats pretty mutch it.
I agree on the " Korea > france " but stephano will go to korea whatsoever... lewelys said it again yesterday.
Millenium TV is the most viewed webtv in france , in all category. they have 3.5 - 4k viewer minimum for any shit show they do at anytime of the day.
Also as Lewelys said , he is still allowed to stream on justin TV , in his contract he jut got to stream a certain amount of team on the millenium TV each week, for witch he STILL get all the money.
Just a heads up, but if anything at this point you are just making things look worse to outsiders. Your (and others) posts make Mil and the community surrounding it look EXTREMELY xenophobic and nationalistic. I don't really have a problem with that if that really is the case, but it won't make the whole situation right in other people's minds. If anything it will make people think that Stephano was pulled aside after he signed teh contract and was reminded/threatened about about French pride, and how joining an evil American team is bad for the country. If that is somehow actually the case, and he is too scared to say anything about it, then that REALLY IS a shame. OFcourse he was pulled by millenium...
Shouldn't Millenium have told col that they were going to try to sign him? I mean, it's the #1 rule in the Daviday Guide to Business...
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On September 21 2011 03:36 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 03:33 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:28 Chill wrote:On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote:On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:On September 21 2011 02:58 daviday wrote:
Things is , as lewelys said they doesnt care about gossips :
1st - Everyone will have forgoten about that in 1 week.
2nd- if teams doesnt want stephano because of that story ( witch im Sure will never happen ) , how can that be a bad news for millenium ?
3rd - i dont see how it would have any backfire on stephano regarding us tourney and stuff , since MLG keep asking players from millenium to join their tourney.
1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. On September 21 2011 03:00 daviday wrote:
BTW when Liquid took HuK from millenium there was 0 trouble... that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Daviday's Guide to Business: Before hiring an employee, make sure you tell all your competitors that you're hiring him so they have a chance to check if they should offer him a better deal. If you don't do this, you have a lack of professionalism. No you can also do it like a shark with no ethic at all, but then the shark with the most argument win , in that case millenium . Daviday's Guide to Ethics: 1. Hiring an unemployed person as a contractor before telling all your competitors is unethical. 1a. Finding a loophole in your competitor's contract and using that to void it and reissue your own contract before your competitor realizes is, however, ethical if you're French. rev. 01 1. Being non-French is unethical.
Great. I think this whole discussion needed a mod to hate on the French. Now everyone will feel entitled to throw even more stupid hatred in the thread.
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