EPTStatement of Millenium on the Stephano situation - Page 15
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:02 mcc wrote: I did not say anything about signing. He might have as well did that, that does not mean he breached it by withdrawing from it and signing contract with Millenium. To judge that we would have to see the contract and probably even then we would need lawyer's opinion. Complexity's contract would have had to be written by a complete imbecile for this to be the case so I doubt it. It would be an utterly massive loophole if a player was allowed to have another contract going simultaneously. That's like Microsoft forgetting to include a clause in their contract saying that I can't work for Apple... at the same fucking time as I'm working for Microsoft. | ||
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Cluster
Sweden125 Posts
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SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:04 daviday wrote: T'es con ou quoi ? Stephano talked for 30 minutes on millenium TV thats worth all 2 lines annoucement.. In french. On a stream full of french. Clearly, we're all informed of what was said during this stream. edit: if at least you [M] fanboys could agree to the same story, we might know a bit more. | ||
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AcuWill
United States281 Posts
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thebike
United States157 Posts
This is a side note, but can anyone tell why Millenium's team is spelled that way (versus Millennium)? Is it just a typo? I don't think you spell Millennium with one n in French, so I'm a bit perplexed about the origin of the team name. | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
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daviday
Hong Kong33 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote: 1. there's always going to be an idiot bumping the thread so no, nobody will forget in a week 2. so I guess Millenium doesn't care about Stephano? to the point they'd rather ruin his reputation and keep him than actually let him get better and have a better future? Now I understand why the only words he mustered on Lwl's stream was "j'espere avoir fait le bon choix" (I hope I took the right decision). 3. you really think [M]'s lack of professionalism will be easily forgotten? don't expect they get the same treatment from now on. ESPECIALLY with such shitty PR. that's because they had no money for counter-offers, lol. ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. | ||
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ThirdDegree
United States329 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:43 Roggay wrote: Can we have a statement from Stephano? He is the only to know the whole story. No, he is still too disoriented from coL | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:05 Mordiford wrote: Complexity's contract would have had to be written by a complete imbecile for this to be the case so I doubt it. It would be an utterly massive loophole if a player was allowed to have another contract going simultaneously. That's like Microsoft forgetting to include a clause in their contract saying that I can't work for Apple... at the same fucking time as I'm working for Microsoft. Why are you assuming this is the only way there is no breach. You can withdraw from contracts you know. Or the contract is in fact against the law and is invalid. And some other cases are still possible where there is no breach although most can be packed under "illegal therefore invalid". I am saying people here are jumping to conclusions. As always I might add  | ||
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acidfreak
Romania352 Posts
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eohs
United States677 Posts
Come on now ... come on now.. Burn the bridges you will need one day i guess is the moral of the story. | ||
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SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote: ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. 1. I believe you, from first hand experience. I have no clue whatsoever why you're trying to be so elitist with your 2-pump chump esports scene but clearly if your players were that amazing we would've been interested a long time ago. 2. I never said it was Millenium's fault? Considering they haven't said anything relevant in the past 48h I won't even jump to conclusions. 3. [M]'s and it's players's opinions mean absolutely nothing if they dont even release a statement that makes sense or tries to explain something. You want your exclusive french scene, congratulations you might have gotten it! coL.MVP > Millenium. Korea > France. I'd say that's a huge opportunity he missed. If he IS quitting in a year, wouldn't it be in his best interest to make as much money as possible? Oh wait, nvm now he can't he'll be limited to a 1k audience. | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
All I got was we'll talk to coL, internet gossip is often not true, things can be more complicated than it seems. Really? Gosh, thought internet was the bible! That gives me absolutely 0 information on what, how or why these things happened. Millenium is losing more and more credibility.. they really need to fix this situation if they want to save their face. | ||
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
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Panthae
Canada205 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:11 ThirdDegree wrote: No, he is still too disoriented from coL LOL! | ||
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eohs
United States677 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote: ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Everything u just said makes no sense at all.. coL a company that has been in business since 2003. HAS NEVER HAD a complaint in contracts ever that I can think of, and I have been following them since before they where coL... never once have i heard a player talk bad about that organization ever... You said FALSE on a huge opportunity? So if he preformed well enough in the US with MLG and more tourneys he can travel to. You dont think that coL would send him to korea? They sent drewbie over.. what has drewbie won latly? ..... I will wait for you to re spawned.. My point is they would have sent him to Korea he would be a real real "pro gamer" and all because of a contract. Did you not read wat coL said... he would have been the highest paid sc2 player right now.. thats not a missed opportunity?.. this is a business this is what they are going for MONEY and a chance to prove themselves. Think you need to rethink some things before posting away. | ||
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Iron.Fist
Brazil268 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:17 SwEEt[TearS] wrote: 1. I believe you, from first hand experience. I have no clue whatsoever why you're trying to be so elitist with your 2-pump chump esports scene but clearly if your players were that amazing we would've been interested a long time ago. 2. I never said it was Millenium's fault? Considering they haven't said anything relevant in the past 48h I won't even jump to conclusions. 3. [M]'s and it's players's opinions mean absolutely nothing if they dont even release a statement that makes sense or tries to explain something. You want your exclusive french scene, congratulations you might have gotten it! coL.MVP > Millenium. Korea > France. I'd say that's a huge opportunity he missed. If he IS quitting in a year, wouldn't it be in his best interest to make as much money as possible? Oh wait, nvm now he can't he'll be limited to a 1k audience. I'm pretty sure he won't change his mind even if you try your best. Nationalist bias is just too strong. On topic: Yep they pretty much said nothing on that statement so we only have one side of the story on the forums (statement on stream speaking FRENCH to FRENCH VIEWERS is not giving statement to the rest of the webz, unless you expect the whole community to speak french). | ||
Chill
Calgary25981 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:10 daviday wrote: ORLY ? 1- belive me , millenium doesnt care about US community , they only care about the french.. so US fans and stuff.. 2- They said " he made the mistake ", witch he did. So yeah they pretty mutch dont care since its not their fault , but stephano's. 3- YES ,because they were a lack of professionalism from coL , not from them , and all of theirs players will agree. And please all.. stop saying that stephano missed a huge opportunity thats FALSE. The only truth in this , is that , with an americain team you might get more exposure , and get more people on your stream so you will make more money. Daviday's Guide to Business: Before hiring an employee, make sure you tell all your competitors that you're hiring him so they have a chance to check if they should offer him a better deal. If you don't do this, you have a lack of professionalism. | ||
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daviday
Hong Kong33 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:17 SwEEt[TearS] wrote: 1. I believe you, from first hand experience. I have no clue whatsoever why you're trying to be so elitist with your 2-pump chump esports scene but clearly if your players were that amazing we would've been interested a long time ago. 2. I never said it was Millenium's fault? Considering they haven't said anything relevant in the past 48h I won't even jump to conclusions. 3. [M]'s and it's players's opinions mean absolutely nothing if they dont even release a statement that makes sense or tries to explain something. You want your exclusive french scene, congratulations you might have gotten it! coL.MVP > Millenium. Korea > France. I'd say that's a huge opportunity he missed. If he IS quitting in a year, wouldn't it be in his best interest to make as much money as possible? Oh wait, nvm now he can't he'll be limited to a 1k audience. 1. it have nothing to do with being elitist , it just more practical , making a team , a portal and a community is really hard. Only americain / uk team have enough english speaking people following them for them to create an international community. 3. What i mean is that , if players want / think about joining millenium , they will ask other team member of millenium ( Tarson , Stephano , Adel , Lalush , etc. ) If every promess have been kept by the organisation. I dont belive they care about the gossips/trolls from TL.NET. Last point Mill >>>>> coL , this team got no good player , maybe Trimaster but thats pretty mutch it. I agree on the " Korea > france " but stephano will go to korea whatsoever... lewelys said it again yesterday. Millenium TV is the most viewed webtv in france , in all category. they have 3.5 - 4k viewer minimum for any shit show they do at anytime of the day. Also as Lewelys said , he is still allowed to stream on justin TV , in his contract he jut got to stream a certain amount of team on the millenium TV each week, for witch he STILL get all the money. | ||
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