one of the best gaming-house of the USA made him what seemed to be an offer he couldn't refuse.
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So that's what this is all about...
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
one of the best gaming-house of the USA made him what seemed to be an offer he couldn't refuse. + Show Spoiler + ![]() So that's what this is all about... | ||
Sweepstakes
United States92 Posts
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:20 DertoQq wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2011 05:06 ravemir wrote: Can anyone who understands fluent French listen to the stream and report what the guy is saying? http://www.millenium.org/home/milleniumtv/?chaine=millenium_tv I listened a bit : basically, what's "important" : "We will sign a contract with Stephano, we're going to do something serious and not going to do it at 5am and hurry and post on Team Liquid" "Col contract means absolutely nothing" "Yes Stephano signed a contract at 5am, Stephano show it to us the next-morning, we saw that it was nothing serious and the contract was full of mistakes, we explained this to Stephano and he agreed with us" "His new contract with us isn't bigger than it use to be" (i'm not 100% about this one, he said in french, "son contract n'a pas été revu a la hausse") + he talk about Stephano wanting to "stay closer" to the french scene (i keep quoting some of what he is saying) "if you are afraid for mille, don't worry, we don't risk anything" "Col are going to realize they legally have nothing against us" "Why didn't Col came yesterday talk to us before signing the contract ?" | ||
Angra
United States2652 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:28 Cobbbler wrote: Millenium accuses Complexity of "disorienting" Stephano, When Complexity says there was a long period of negotiation. Millenium says: "After a long discussion, Stephano understood his mistake and decided to stay with Millenium for the next 12 months" It sounds to me like the kid made his decision to go to Complexity, when Millenium didn't think he would, then Millenium persuaded him to come back. If anyone is doing the disorienting, it sounds like it's Millenium. My thoughts exactly. It sounds like they are taking advantage of his loyalty and friendship to Mill to guilt trip him/talk him into staying. | ||
pezit
Sweden302 Posts
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
then something about him being tired or confusing him. | ||
sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
wanna see him all over the world bashing face ![]() | ||
pStar
996 Posts
Complexity said that he would have been one of the highest paid SC2 players. This must have been tens of thousands of dollars. Why would he even consider signing with Millenium? There must be some kind guilt trip that Millenium are running | ||
sixfour
England11061 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:28 Charger wrote: 1.6 million ESPORTS dollars to whoever can actually find and provide a reliable source for the 'Contracts don't mean anything for 30 days (1 week, 2 weeks, whatev) in France' clause/law. this sort of thing is pretty common in various EU legal systems, but mainly for consumer contracts as opposed to contracts for employment | ||
HorsemasterK
United States606 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:20 Zorgaz wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2011 05:18 Vadrigar wrote: Today 9:30 CET, Stephano gets a visit from Millenium Manager (MM). MM: Good morning, Steph! What did you do, my son? Why are you doing this to me? Is it because of money? *throws 100 euro bills at his feet* Eh? *throws more euros* There! We have more money than you can ever dream for! We're the most visited site on the frenchwebz (excluding TL france of course)! You're like a son to me! Remember when you were 17 I taught you how to larva inject! I love you, my boy! You can't leave me! We're French! French stick together! Why would you go to the Americans? French have honor, dignity... *French rant for 120 minutes* So did they make you sign a paper or something? Show it to me! Stephano: Here it is. *MM calls his friend Pierre who studied a year of law, but dropped out. They speak for 5 minutes.* MM: Pfff. That's bullshit, my boy! See here, it says "This contract is valid under the laws of the state of New York." LOL New York. We're French we can do whatever we want. Take the money and stay with France I tell you! Stephano: OK. P.S. really disappointed in Stephano right now... Might not be too far off from the truth xd There is more truth in this than any of the Mill press releases. | ||
Callosum
United States56 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:27 Strike_ wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2011 05:23 Drenz wrote: coL contract is just a joke, nothing professionnal so it's quite funny to see people thinking they want to improve eSport ![]() Have you seen the contract? How do you know it's a joke? He's merely being presumptuous, which is an unhelpful distraction until more of the facts are made public. In my experience, when dealing with a large business, you can usually assume they get their stuff done right. I fully expect complexity to say the contract is valid while millennium will claim it's void. That's normal posturing. I hope complexity sues so we can find out who's correct. | ||
FaRess
Tunisia937 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:23 Peitachi wrote: CoL official statement: http://scottford.visibli.com/share/enHGMk "4) Yesterday Stephano contacted coL.CatZ and our COO Jason Bass to inform them he had made his final decision and told CatZ "Don't worry I won't change my mind again." " So he apparently had been changing his mind atleast once, promising though that this was the last time, and is now saved by french law to do this kind of move. This caught my eye as well. Along with the part about negotiations for 18 days, it seems Stephano has been on the fence about this decision for some time, and now he's gone back on his word after making it binding (even if not legally, ethically). Everything that comes out of Mill regarding this issue either makes no sense or reeks of bias, and I'm starting to lose a lot of respect for them. Lots of people are telling coL to let this go, but I disagree. I think Mill should be the ones to man up and peaceably buy out Stephano's contract, because right now they are the ones who look bad in all of this. | ||
darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Either way, once you sign a contract, it's a pretty dick move to pull out. It doesn't matter what your reasons are, if you weren't sure, don't sign. I will have a very low opinion of both Stephano and Millenium if he does not follow through with his obligations. Its times like these where you need to show that you are a man and accept that your actions have consequences. 18 is not too young to understand this. | ||
ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:28 Cobbbler wrote: Millenium accuses Complexity of "disorienting" Stephano, When Complexity says there was a long period of negotiation. Millenium says: "After a long discussion, Stephano understood his mistake and decided to stay with Millenium for the next 12 months" It sounds to me like the kid made his decision to go to Complexity, when Millenium didn't think he would, then Millenium persuaded him to come back. If anyone is doing the disorienting, it sounds like it's Millenium. Agree +10000000000 This annoys me so much. Lwl is not making himself look good at all. | ||
Garnet
Vietnam9012 Posts
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:27 SlaveboyZerg wrote: Stupid move by Stephano. Noone will touch him after this. I will probably get banned for saying this. Nope, you will be banned for saying that you will be banned though. | ||
Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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Tarias
Netherlands480 Posts
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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