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ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
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Lunas
253 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:04 Koorb wrote: BTW, Millenium's manager is saying on stream right now that he doesn't intend to send Stephano in international event more than he used to, and will focus on the french scene. what french scene lol? I feel more and more Milinium is killing Stephano right now. Stephano needs to stay with complexity | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
the kind where you read all of it. | ||
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FaRess
Tunisia937 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:59 Charger wrote: I highly doubt Complexity contracts are just flat out void in France BUT even if that's the case it's still incredibly shitty by Mill to act like this. Wasn't a huge fan of theirs to begin with and this is driving me toward actively cheering for them to do poorly. The manager was trying to say that because of all the missing points in the contract it has no value, and then he added, regarding the contract itself in France it has also no value. live report : he just said again that complexity contract is ridiculously badly written and they could be sued for that kind of contract. I'm just quoting what he says. I wish Stephano would have left this team and honored his contract with coL, millenium is a structure that is falling appart. | ||
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:04 Koorb wrote: BTW, Millenium's manager is saying on stream right now that he doesn't intend to send Stephano in international event more than he used to, and will focus on the french scene. Well thats good for no one.. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:01 gulati wrote: We actually know exactly what went on? Did you even read the official PR by compLexity? "We will fully review our options and will seriously consider legal action in this matter." - That is what will be occurring. Millennium and Stephano are not responding, and their PR has their side of the story. So... what am I missing, kind sir, that other people know of? We know what's going on. We aren't in the dark. They have the support of people who want eSports to flourish. Your attacks against me are idiotic. It could be fNatic, Liquid, Dignitas, etc., I don't give a FUCK who; the point is that they are right (compLexity), and they want to set a precedent for the gaming community. P.S. My statement about my admiration for Jason Lake was because he is the perfect leader to set this example. That is all. Sorry if you are offended by my respect for a leader in eSports. I wonder how people like you survive in the real word when you take PR like some kind of undisputable truth when there's really no facts presented. A true supporter of esports would say "Lets wait and see how this turns out" instead of jumping on a bandwagon with nothing but two statements to go on. Literally anything could have gone down at the negotiations and larger companies have been caught lying in PR statements before. Wait and see seems to be something the TL community is horrible at. | ||
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The_Piper42
United States426 Posts
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:06 danson wrote: yeah that booming french scene, where players grow and prosper. haha, so true, that's why I don't follow french scene at all : D | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:05 Angelbelow wrote: Maybe they should have talked to Mills coach first. On a more serious note its a shame that coL went from being a powerhouse team yesterday to an average one with a partnership with MVP. Must be very frustrating but they'll be able to pick up the pieces. Esp. if stephano stays with Mill and they clear up that salary. Thats not what the OP says! | ||
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qwertzi
111 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:03 ellirc wrote: You're wrong. How do you think any kind of negotiations would be able to take place otherwise... well the power of verbal agreements (which do have their weight) depend country or state... another important factor would be a handshake sounds dumb, but in some cases it actually does matter, as it is like signing the verbal contract.. | ||
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Grimberht
Canada6 Posts
Instead of trying to "steal" players, sue other teams and dismantle teams, basically acting like corporate predators. Complexity should direct there effort, time and money to making eSport grows into the mainstream where the real money is... it wil be better for everyone, including them. I wont support Complexity in anyway anymore. I dont have nothing against their players, but for now, this sort of business is pretty bad and we dont need this kind of toxic behaviour while we try to grow a community. | ||
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Eduro
United States88 Posts
From wikipedia... A choice of law clause or proper law clause is a term of a contract in which the parties specify that any dispute arising under the contract shall be determined in accordance with the law of a particular jurisdiction. | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:51 Megiddosc wrote: If what the coL site posted is true, then Stephano and Millennium lost a lot of fans. Despicable. I dont care what contract stuff happens, i like Stephano for his PLAY and his personality. why do such things affect ppl so much, i dont get it | ||
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Shinobi1982
1605 Posts
- He would be one of the highest payed pro players in SC2. - Access to WORLDWIDE tournaments. And not only restricted to European tournament like he is now. - Access to play in a Korean team house and maybe take shots at GSL. I highly doubt Millenium is offering him same or a better deal than coL. Which makes Stephanos (or forced by Millenium) decision stupid to say the least. | ||
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:06 Koorb wrote: Millenium's manager also said on stream that he knows that there is a signed contract, not only a verbal agreement. Uhm, WTF? That doesn't seem like an appropriate thing to say publicly. On September 20 2011 05:07 qwertzi wrote: well the power of verbal agreements (which do have their weight) depend country or state... another important factor would be a handshake sounds dumb, but in some cases it actually does matter, as it is like signing the verbal contract.. Yup. That's what I mean. People seem to think ink signatures from the 17th century is the only way to make a legally binding agreement though... | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:02 Megiddosc wrote: Right, but Destiny didn't use his contract with Complexity as leverage to sign with another team. THAT is the despicable thing done by Stephano. He simply used coL  Nothing wrong with trying to get a higher salary, which was the situation beforehand with all the counter offers. It's the whole signing part that's fucking stupid. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:07 Eduro wrote: Hopefully the contract had a choice of law clause... From wikipedia... that clause itself can be void in certain circumstances though  | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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Koorb
France266 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:06 ravemir wrote: Can anyone who understands fluent French listen to the stream and report what the guy is saying? http://www.millenium.org/home/milleniumtv/?chaine=millenium_tv Lwl states he didn't even read coL's mail, and that he will direct them toward the nearest french court. | ||
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ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:07 The_Piper42 wrote: Strange that Stephano wouldn't comment on the matter... Maybe Mill told him not to say anything, or this could escalate even more? | ||
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