EPTStephano contract situation - Page 26
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djfoxmccloud
France185 Posts
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Jinivus
747 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:08 vnlegend wrote: So everyone supports Col basically poaching Stephano from Mill. So once again another team goes behind the back of the player's home-grown team and tries to poach said player. If Col had actually negotiated with Mill regarding Stephano, Mill would've had proper time to respond and offer Stephano a new competitive contract. As it is, Col tried it the dirty way and failed. Personally I'm sick of all the money thrown around to recruit top players from other teams. Build your own goddamn team and actually develop something instead of eye'ing the aces of other teams. Clearly these guys are incompetent coaches and have nothing except money. According to coL they had contact and counter offers with Millenium so what the hell are you talking about? | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:03 WArped wrote: Are you suggesting Stephano thought, "Hey how about I sign a contract with another team to blackmail my way into more money with Millenium"? No. If I were to guess it'd be that yes. coL made an offer that Mill couldn't overcome and Stephano signs with coL, Mill decides to give in and make a big offer for Stephano. Stephano wants DAT MONEY and signs with Mill. I'm happy that coL won't give up without a fight, even though realistically they probably won't win. Ridiculous move by Stephano... | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13426 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:07 Vira wrote: Millenium will send him to Korea and MLG, Millenium will probably get a team house in France, Millenium is French organisation for easy communication and Millenium got a stronger line up as CoL so ? coL and MVP are a joint organisation which means, DRG training Stephano. If he goes to Korea under coL of course. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:07 Vira wrote: Millenium will send him to Korea and MLG, Millenium will probably get a team house in France, Millenium is French organisation for easy communication and Millenium got a stronger line up as CoL so ? That's not even close to 10x, which was the point he was trying to make. If you're going to breach a contract, it damn well be worth it and then some. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:03 TheHova wrote: One of the worst posts i've seen in awhile. And the last LR made my soul die alittle inside. what? are you saying comparing serious contractual disputes to fucking cliche internet memes is bad posting? crazy. most posters here are making too many assumptions based off limited information. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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zeru
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:08 vnlegend wrote: So everyone supports Col basically poaching Stephano from Mill. So once again another team goes behind the back of the player's home-grown team and tries to poach said player. If Col had actually negotiated with Mill regarding Stephano, Mill would've had proper time to respond and offer Stephano a new competitive contract. As it is, Col tried it the dirty way and failed. Personally I'm sick of all the money thrown around to recruit top players from other teams. Build your own goddamn team and actually develop something instead of eye'ing the aces of other teams. Clearly these guys are incompetent coaches and have nothing except money. how is talking to a player whos contract is ending with one team poaching? stephano's contract ended, col offered him a deal and stephano signed before he waited for millenium to counter offer sounds like stephano jumped ship without even thinking also the notion of complexity management being incompetent coaches is a fucking atrocity, have you ever seen jason lake behind his counterstrike team? | ||
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Jinivus
747 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:09 Fionn wrote: This. Sport players do this all the time. Work two teams at once and have them bidding on you. Sometimes even have someone "leak" info that one side is offering you more than they actually are to bump the price up. Except they don't actually sign a contract, change their mind, and allowed to the other team. Usually when this happens a player gets traded or bought out. Since I don't think you're allowed to trade a player (right?), Millenium would have to pony up money to buy out the contract to keep Stephano. Stephano is at the height of his popularity at the second. He just went through the IPL and beat some top Koreans to get there. He's getting a lot of hype and this was his best chance to cash it in. Based on the information we have so far, this. Seriously why else would he back out like...hours later? | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:09 djfoxmccloud wrote: If you sign a contract, you still have some time to reverse your mind in France. How long typically? If this is the case, complexity was probably unaware of the french rules. | ||
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Holy_KR
Korea (South)43 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:07 Vira wrote: Millenium will send him to Korea and MLG, Millenium will probably get a team house in France, Millenium is French organisation for easy communication and Millenium got a stronger line up as CoL so ? Stronger Line up? While I'm sure people can disagree and agree with that, but coL has DRG and the entire MVP house, plus talented player such as Cruncher and Tri-Master, who while not be the greatest, could surely give stephano a run for his money. If Stephano really wanted to get better, CoL would be the better choice, they have connections in Korea where he could train and possibly become the greatest foreigner to ever grace Starcraft 2. Yet you say Millenium has a better line up? Millenium has a very talented Roster, boasting Adelscott, Tarson, and LaLush but Complexity has the stronger line up all around, and better connections. | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:09 djfoxmccloud wrote: If you sign a contract, you still have some time to reverse your mind in France. Wait... are you serious? The funny thing is, I kind of believe France would do something like that. That totally distorts the whole purpose of a contract. The time to think is before you sign. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:09 djfoxmccloud wrote: If you sign a contract, you still have some time to reverse your mind in France. Additionally to that: Why are so many people convinced of the fact that the contract is indeed legally binding when it comes to legal action? Because it has "contract" written on it? | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:12 darmousseh wrote: How long typically? If this is the case, complexity was probably unaware of the french rules. Good thing it's a US contract. | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:08 vnlegend wrote: So everyone supports Col basically poaching Stephano from Mill. So once again another team goes behind the back of the player's home-grown team and tries to poach said player. If Col had actually negotiated with Mill regarding Stephano, Mill would've had proper time to respond and offer Stephano a new competitive contract. As it is, Col tried it the dirty way and failed. Personally I'm sick of all the money thrown around to recruit top players from other teams. Build your own goddamn team and actually develop something instead of eye'ing the aces of other teams. Clearly these guys are incompetent coaches and have nothing except money. Do you just tend to not read important information from sources that are actually involved in this drama before posting? Jason Lake has said they had been negotiating for quite awhile with Mill for Stephano. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Millenium has close to nothing to do with this to me. | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:08 vnlegend wrote: So everyone supports Col basically poaching Stephano from Mill. So once again another team goes behind the back of the player's home-grown team and tries to poach said player. If Col had actually negotiated with Mill regarding Stephano, Mill would've had proper time to respond and offer Stephano a new competitive contract. As it is, Col tried it the dirty way and failed. Personally I'm sick of all the money thrown around to recruit top players from other teams. Build your own goddamn team and actually develop something instead of eye'ing the aces of other teams. Clearly these guys are incompetent coaches and have nothing except money. how is talking to a player whos contract is ending with one team poaching? stephano's contract ended, col offered him a deal and stephano signed before he waited for millenium to counter offer sounds like stephano jumped ship without even thinking also the notion of complexity management being incompetent coaches is a fucking atrocity, have you ever seen jason lake behind his counterstrike team? On September 20 2011 04:11 zeru wrote: Agreed. Not a single legal thing is gonna happen. i don't want it to end messy but i think it's a shame that a single legal thing will not occur, than it just goes to show how much of a joke contracts are in this business | ||
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