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Update: Please read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506#1 and continue the discussion there.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 19 2011 18:41 GMT
#321
don`t you have 14 days to step back from the contract? I`m not sure how this is in france or the states, but in Germany this rule stands for at least some types of contracts.
keep it deep! @zulison
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
September 19 2011 18:42 GMT
#322
why are u killing esports EG
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 19 2011 18:42 GMT
#323
lol @ ppl blaming col
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 19 2011 18:42 GMT
#324
On September 20 2011 03:40 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:34 Naniwa wrote:
funny that people even discuss whether its right or wrong by stephano, he broke the contract to get more money from millenium. its that simple ; )

Are you saying it's ok? ^____^

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry had to


Well, he is saying its normal. i think anyway.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
September 19 2011 18:42 GMT
#325
I don't understand half of what this newspost is saying

Oh well, e-sports drama. nothing new.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 19 2011 18:42 GMT
#326
On September 20 2011 03:40 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Pretty messed up situation here. What is Complexity supposed to do now..... they can't just ignore people breaking contracts, but you really can't just "force" Stephano to honor the contract, because who wants a player who is unhappy and does not want to play for his team.

Demand compensation from Millennium. Reach some sort of contract buy-out. That is their only option.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:44:11
September 19 2011 18:42 GMT
#327
Mill makes it sound like coL roofied Stephano and forced him to sign a contract. How can e-sports grow if people can back out of teams after signing a contract (which is kind of the point of making him sign a contract anyways?). It's a shitty situation that coL can't actually force Stephano to play for them, however signing a contract must hold some value? Dick move that will only hurt his image.
CurrrBell
Profile Joined March 2011
United States67 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#328
roflageeeeee oh, leaked news.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#329
I don't understand how anyone can take a side between the two teams. Person to blame is Stephano, frankly, the guy is going where the money takes him and he's not smart enough to milk the best offers before he signs the contract.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#330
On September 20 2011 03:38 Vapaach wrote:
I can see how this all went down:

CoL: Hey Steph, you can get xxx dollars a month here.
Stephano: Cool!
Millenium: Hey Steph, you can get xxx + 100 dollars a month HERE.
Stephano: But I already signed a contract..
Millenium: pfft.
CoL: We ain't gonna give him back you know!

I'm officially offering Stephano infinite+1 ESPORTS dollars to sign for my new team as our captain.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#331
Oh no ...this could have been another drama EG story ....
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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#332
On September 20 2011 03:39 N1k0 wrote:
So, we blame EG right?


Get Alex Garfield on SOTG, ITG, Weapon Of Choice, Live on Three, News at Ten, IMMEDIATELY for damage control.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#333
And he just started streaming! :D
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Flobsen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany55 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#334
[image loading]


User was warned for this post
KingVietKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#335
On September 20 2011 03:41 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:38 Eufouria wrote:
I don't like this bit

"The techniques used by Complexity to recruit Stephano were quite disorienting to influence our young player towards a bad decision."

Now unless Complexity got him drunk or slipped him some roofie and then signed the contract with his hand when he was unconscious then this seems like an accusation that Complexity have misled Stephano. If you're going to make an accusation like that you really need some details to back your claim up.

This is what irks me the most. There was a negotiation phase where both sides got to present offers and counteroffers. How did Complexity disorient or confuse him?

It's one thing for Millennium to sign an already-contracted player, its completely another to do that and insult the organization as well. Completely unnecessary escalation.


It really sounds like Millenium is just trying to discredit coL right off the bat by alleging immorality, hence the lack of specifics. Emotional arguments are so much easier to enforce without evidence. Hard to say who's being the asshole, but with the limited knowledge we have it's pointing towards Millenium and Stephano himself.
Crigget
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark38 Posts
September 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#336
On September 20 2011 03:39 N1k0 wrote:
So, we blame EG right?


Makes sense.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#337
well, let's wait for an statement of stephano, eager to see what happened and who lied this time.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#338
So more drama?
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
September 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#339
This is not surprising. The compLexity signing was really unusual, coming after it seemed like Millenium had secured Stephano to a new contract. (This was the impression, even if it was never said.) This had drama all over it this morning, had to think it was going to blow up by the evening.
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Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
September 19 2011 18:45 GMT
#340
On September 20 2011 03:44 JustPassingBy wrote:
well, let's wait for an statement of stephano, eager to see what happened and who lied this time.

Yeah the guy who is incredibly biased, can't wait to hear his opinion!
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