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On September 18 2011 22:59 resilve wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 08:57 jmbthirteen wrote:On September 17 2011 08:56 ninjamyst wrote:On September 17 2011 08:52 Demoe wrote:On September 17 2011 08:47 MooLen wrote:
dont misunderstand me but why is incontrol still in the pools??? Because he is on EG EG = $$$ because EG's money has anything to do with MLG's point system How does sending your whole roster to every event to pick up valuable seeding points (when there are no koreans), in a system that rewards consistent attendence, not equate a team's wealth to MLG points?
It's only a valid equation if incontrol wouldn't have gone to these events if he were on another team, or in no team at all, or if it's true that EG sends their whole roster in every case. So in other words: It's not.
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On September 18 2011 23:06 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 22:39 Gh86 wrote:On September 18 2011 22:36 haitike wrote:On September 18 2011 20:56 akalarry wrote:
how were the pools created? i looked at the seeding, and if they based it off that, it looks kind of random... then again i'm not too familiar with different kinds of ways you can create pools from rankings. There is nothing random in the seeds. RowA: 3 4 5 8 RowB: 13 11 10 9 ETC. A normal seed by Ranking Position. You must quit the player that dont participate (1 Naniwa, 2 MMA, 6 Sjow, 7 Select, 12 MVP, etc.). So each group have one player from 3-8 ranking, one player from 9-13 ranking, etc. In both directions for a equally difficult. Also, separate the Korean invites, they are seeded via GSL points, A to D, lowest to highest respectively. koreans are seeded via mlg points, except for july/hongun as they came through invites and don't have high enough mlg points.
Sorry, but you are mistaken.
From http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222580
GSL Pro Players Competing on the MLG Pro Circuit
- MLG will invite four Korean pro players to each Pro Circuit Live Competition.
- These players will be placed directly into the Championship Pools, one into each Pool.
- Their placement in the Pools will be determined by their GSL rank.
- All travel and accomodation expenses for these players will be provided by MLG.
- For MLG Columbus, we will also be inviting a player from the CSN tournament, currently in progress. This player will be seeded into the Open Bracket, and their travel and accomodation expenses will be covered by CSN.
Besides, if we follow MLG points, Bomber and incontrol(ranked 7th and 8th respectively would not appear in the same group)
Also,
From http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/starcraft-2-pro-circuit-competition-format-changes
After MLG Columbus:
The Pools will always contain the Top 20 players (four invited GSL pro players, and 16 top-ranked MLG players) and four undefeated Open Bracket players, for a total of 24.
The 20 players who start in Pool Play on Friday will be seeded according to their Pro Circuit Rank Points.
No matter what their MLG seed is, the invited GSL pro players will be placed in Pools based on their GSL rank. The #1 ranked GSL pro player will always be placed into Pool D, etc.
In the National Championship, where there are no Pools, the GSL pro players will be seeded based on their MLG Rank Points.
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On September 18 2011 23:05 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 22:36 haitike wrote:On September 18 2011 20:56 akalarry wrote:
how were the pools created? i looked at the seeding, and if they based it off that, it looks kind of random... then again i'm not too familiar with different kinds of ways you can create pools from rankings. There is nothing random in the seeds. RowA: 3 4 5 8 RowB: 13 11 10 9 ETC. A normal seed by Ranking Position. You must quit the player that dont participate (1 Naniwa, 2 MMA, 6 Sjow, 7 Select, 12 MVP, etc.). So each group have one player from 3-8 ranking, one player from 9-13 ranking, etc. In both directions for a equally difficult. well incontrol is rank 12/seeded 8 (while haypro is rank 13/seeded 9). by what you're saying, incontrol should be in row b, and not row c in addition sheth, seeded 11th (rank 16 mlg) is in the fourth row, which I would think goes to ppl seeded 13-16th that's why it looks random to me
Now that you say you are true... Incontrol should be in Haypro spot. That confused me.
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Wow. These are some of the best pools I've ever seen this is shaping up to be one heck of a tournament.
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makes sense now... including the invites into the seeding was confusing as hell.
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Really horrible in how bad Euro representation has become at these MLGs. I'm sure it will be great tournament, but it's missing out on a huge amount of talent.
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Groups B and D are stacked! Winners bracket on finals day will have some unusual participants from groups A and C.
Here's my top 2 for each group:
A: 1. Boxer, 2. Idra
B: 1. Bomber, 2. Puma (3. Sheth)
C: 1. Ret, 2. Rain (3. Hongun)
D. 1. DRG, 2. Can't choose - any of the rest bar Socke. July maybe?
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Machine has a relatively easy group, lets hope he can make it out of there.
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maybe this has been asked on page 14,26 or 40 but i'll ask it now again
WHY are there no players from Dignitas attending MLG Orlando?
No SjoW, Naniwa or Select?
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On September 19 2011 00:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
maybe this has been asked on page 14,26 or 40 but i'll ask it now again
WHY are there no players from Dignitas attending MLG Orlando?
No SjoW, Naniwa or Select?
probably has something to do with them all being in korea. dono the reason though
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I do this everytime the pools are released, but until it stops happening, I will continue doing this to show my disapproval in the system.
Why are iNcontrol and Machine still in pool play? Nobody wants to watch them, please put them in the open bracket where they belong. After they both lose all their sets this MLG, and the only reason that they possibly place top 20 is because they are already in pool play will we still have to watch them in pool play next MLG too?
Anyways though, not sure what MLG was thinking when they put July, MC, and DRG all in the same group, doesn't take a genius to know that's a bad idea. At least move one of them to group A. But I guess that's a small thing, this MLG should be awesome just like all the others, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.
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there's really not much incentive for Euros to come to MLG anymore if they already have a spot for the finals, top prize is only 5k which will definitely go to a Korean. Non Koreans will be lucky to break top5.
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Does NOBODY understand that they have a fixed system?! Yes, it's bad that some players still have spots, but it would be much worse if they just decided to kick them because people are getting annoyed. They've already admitted that the system has a problem and that it will change for 2012, and that should be that. And people are still asking why certain players are in certain pools, when we know that it is done by a mathematical system.
Gah. Anyway. Pool D eh? That's a bitch, what were they thinking?
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Wow, pool D is gonna be sick. Rooting for MC, July, IdrA and HuK.
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On September 19 2011 00:14 Tomfour wrote:
I do this everytime the pools are released, but until it stops happening, I will continue doing this to show my disapproval in the system.
Why are iNcontrol and Machine still in pool play? Nobody wants to watch them, please put them in the open bracket where they belong. After they both lose all their sets this MLG, and the only reason that they possibly place top 20 is because they are already in pool play will we still have to watch them in pool play next MLG too?
Anyways though, not sure what MLG was thinking when they put July, MC, and DRG all in the same group, doesn't take a genius to know that's a bad idea. At least move one of them to group A. But I guess that's a small thing, this MLG should be awesome just like all the others, and I'm definitely looking forward to it.
i also laugh at when incontrol, haypro, machine and tlo are constantly in pool play. however it's just that the skill gap is SO huge in mlg that there will be relatively bad players in pool play no matter what. who's gonna replace incontrol and machine? drewbie and moonan were also your perennial pool players. who's after them? tyler, cruncher... trimaster.. kawaiirice.. they'd all get destroyed in pool play too. i can only think of vibe, major, and qxc that would do better, but it's still about rankings, and they are ranked behind players like trimaster. even then... qxc hasn't done well at any mlg so would he really deserve pool play.
not enough competitive players is what i think. the shitty system they use just masks that imo.
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On September 17 2011 09:25 iNcontroL wrote:
I ACCEPT
Changing the way I train / work and going into this with blood on the mind. Training a LOT more cg's each day. Will do my best to tear some faces off.
go go go incontrol!
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Seems like a walkover win for Korea...
Perhaps Ret or HuK can take a match/games off of them but anything less than top-6 Koreans would be quite embarassing for them to be honest :/
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Looks like fun. MLG should go back from pool play to standard double elimination format. I enjoyed it much more.
I don't wanna watch some of the pool games cause the player gaps (I am not gonna name them) are huge. It's so annoying watching them getting disintegrated and watch the interview with their promise of real hard training (with no significant improvement next MLG).
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On September 17 2011 06:54 k!llua wrote:
Poor socke?
More like poor iNcontroL. He's going to get romped, again.
And how is this any different than normal? He gets "romped" every time.
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EPT
