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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
September 16 2011 21:58 GMT
#441
On September 17 2011 06:55 synkronized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 06:48 MockHamill wrote:
I got a SQ of 77 even though I am in Platinum. I suspect that the numbers may be off if you que up units? Does queuing units count them as spent resources, and if so does SQ become incorrect when you que units?

How many games did you sample? I'd argue you should sample about 20 since it'd give you a reasonably broad range accounting for days you were tired, days you were baller and everything in between.

There are Plat players with your SQ score so you're not totally alone. It could suggest your build orders, strats and micro may not have received the same level of attention. I know when I play aggressively (Diamond league here) my macro takes a major slip compared to games where I more passively defend.


I used 20 games and the linked excel file to do the calculations. But yes, my macro, although awful, is miles ahead of my micro.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
September 16 2011 22:02 GMT
#442
Nice work, looks like you put a lot of work into it
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Tolvinar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States22 Posts
September 16 2011 22:04 GMT
#443
I am a low diamond player. After using this equation for my last 20 games, my average SQ was 71. I went 9-11 in that stretch of 20 games and strangely enough my average SQ for games that I won was 66 and for games that I lost was 74. I seem to play better in the games that I lose.
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
September 16 2011 22:05 GMT
#444
What the fucking hell, this OP is awesome!
So much work, so good.

Props to the maker of this. Just insane.
Regina
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands148 Posts
September 16 2011 22:09 GMT
#445
+1 kuddos
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 16 2011 22:10 GMT
#446
On September 17 2011 07:04 Tolvinar wrote:
I am a low diamond player. After using this equation for my last 20 games, my average SQ was 71. I went 9-11 in that stretch of 20 games and strangely enough my average SQ for games that I won was 66 and for games that I lost was 74. I seem to play better in the games that I lose.


You macro better, you spend more of your money more efficiently. That does not =/= playing better when you are losing.
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leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
September 16 2011 22:10 GMT
#447
@OP
I know you did it mostly out of curiosity, but I feel we own you a big thanks!
So Thank you!!

This was inspiring!
What are you tinkering about?
Dissonance23
Profile Joined September 2010
United States259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 22:11:16
September 16 2011 22:11 GMT
#448
Hmm, average SQ was 84 over 20 games for mid-high masters. Sucks that my decision making is really bad.
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
September 16 2011 22:11 GMT
#449
This man deserves a star next to his name.

CALLING IT NOW!
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jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
September 16 2011 22:13 GMT
#450
This was a good read, and very polished too!
hRob
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland34 Posts
September 16 2011 22:15 GMT
#451
wow!! this is one of the best written posts i have come across on TL.. very scientifically written.. love the attention to detail.. way to go.. one suggestion.. u cud try polishing it up a bit and try submitting to some conference.. this has so much results and analysis that it is worthy of a publication! well done and gratz!!
There is ALWAYS something to be learnt from EVERYTHING.
Str1keFreedom
Profile Joined October 2010
United States112 Posts
September 16 2011 22:15 GMT
#452
Wow Impressive work. Nice.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#453
I'm going to test if queuing affects the average unspent.

Both times I am going through the same rough build order.

1. Whenever I have spare money, I must queue something up to spend it, and cancel to continue build order at last moment.
2. Queue as little as possible.

Just using a standard terran BO with the end point when orbital finishes. If queuing does affect the unspent resources, there should be a significant difference.

In the end my results were
57 average, queuing as much as humanly possible. I ran out of stuff to spend money on towards the end of the test.
110 average for not queuing.

Not the most scientific of methods, but the difference is large enough to tell that in fact, queuing does make a HUGE difference in terms of unspent resources so if you play terran, and you get an SQ above and beyond your league, go into your replays and see how much you queue. Queuing does affect your unspent resources.
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JelleSlaets
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium57 Posts
September 16 2011 22:16 GMT
#454
I macro by scrolling to different production buildings and then click on the unit I want to build with my mouse. So I guess to answer the OP's title question, No, I don't.

It also amazes me how you can turn a fun game into a maths class.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 16 2011 22:18 GMT
#455
Put more work into your threads OP.

lol just kidding, this is amazing. Now I know what link to send noobs when they deny that better macro will help them improve.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
September 16 2011 22:20 GMT
#456
This is amazing, and pretty cool to see GM being 'so far' ahead of masters.
Wat
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
September 16 2011 22:26 GMT
#457
On September 17 2011 06:44 insomdapowahouz wrote:
so basically..... GM players are better at everything

i'm shocked.

It's one thing to not like or to criticize the OP's work, but if you can't even take the time to read thoroughly and show some sort of appreciation for what he's done, then just don't bother posting.
#TeamBuLba
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 22:27:07
September 16 2011 22:26 GMT
#458
This is Fucking awesome. We are covering linear models and stat plots in my Statistics class so this actually made sense to me which I'm very proud of!!! Super interesting data, especially the graph that showed that silver-masters occupies such a small band compared to bronze and GM. Super interesting, needs a spotlight!
EDIT: and has one, lol.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
September 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#459
This post is so amazing! Thank you very very much!
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 22:28:38
September 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#460
lol beautiful graphs there i have to say!! GJ OP :D

In the simplest definition (imo), Macro skill = ability to produce high income + efficiency of managing(spending) the income.

idra is indeed a macro machine XD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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