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azzu
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 20:44:34
September 16 2011 20:43 GMT
#401
If you don't have excel or openoffice installed (shame!) you can use this formula in Wolfram Alpha:
[35*(0.00137*x-log[e,u])+240, x=, u=]


you simply write your Average income after "x=" and your average unspent resources after "u=" so for example:

[35*(0.00137*x-log[e,u])+240, x=1970, u=959]

gives you ~94.1553
apollonl
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands8 Posts
September 16 2011 20:44 GMT
#402
Impressive, nice detailed stuff you have here,

thanks for the time and information you put to create this
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 20:48:38
September 16 2011 20:48 GMT
#403
Really nice work dude, it was very insightful. You get an A+
KingOctavious
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
September 16 2011 20:50 GMT
#404
Amazing article, very enlightening. I was always under the impression -- as is most everyone -- that macro was a significant indicator of skill, but I had no idea the macro skill level separation each league was so regular. I really thought the difference would have been closer by about 50% progressively going up each league.
Check out my book, The Year in StarCraft II: 2011, http://yearinsc2.com/ :D:D
Remontoir
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia4 Posts
September 16 2011 20:53 GMT
#405
Wow. Were you doing the average unspent distributions on matlab on math2002 on thurday? Because if you were i think i saw you. And you're a chick. this shit is blowing my mind man.
Boom baby.
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 20:54:56
September 16 2011 20:53 GMT
#406
The scientists over in the Starcraft 2 Science article should hire you. Really nice contribution.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
September 16 2011 20:54 GMT
#407
im betting that GM zerg that built 150drones was a ZvT BFH FTW LOL

You'd be able to macro like a pro if you'd spent this time playing instead of doing all this research :p
it is very very impressive though, and if i didnt have to be at work in 6 hours id read it lol

just how long did this take btw
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
September 16 2011 20:56 GMT
#408
Wow, my average SQ is 80 and I am diamond. I knew I was good. :p

Thanks for the article non the less.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 16 2011 20:59 GMT
#409
On September 17 2011 01:18 pulpSC wrote:
This is by far one of the greatest reads. Great work!


and you read all of this in 4 minutes ? Good work..

Nice job whit this read Idra is in Titans League ( like Gracken ) :D hahah
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kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
September 16 2011 21:00 GMT
#410
got 78.59 / high master so it should be around 80 . Most of them looks like higher than 80, but it seems there is a few games were I was playing really bad ~60


Still really good read
Hell
HueHang
Profile Joined August 2010
73 Posts
September 16 2011 21:09 GMT
#411
Amazing post and interesting as well.
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
September 16 2011 21:10 GMT
#412
This is awesome! I have quickly read (most of) the article, looked in a bit more detail at the graphs and formulas, and have immediately bookmarked it for future reference and simply because I enjoyed reading it so much. Good job and thanks! =)
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 21:11:33
September 16 2011 21:10 GMT
#413
EDIT: Fuuuuu, comepletely messed up, wrong thread.
Awesome post btw.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
KSMB
Profile Joined April 2011
United States100 Posts
September 16 2011 21:11 GMT
#414
On September 17 2011 05:53 CountChocula wrote:
The scientists over in the Starcraft 2 Science article should hire you. Really nice contribution.

They will no doubt do some very similar analysis, but with many more data points. That will enable them to perhaps find a better metric as well.
Q2CTF
Cambam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States360 Posts
September 16 2011 21:12 GMT
#415
Just posted on the sc2gears thread that he should include this in his program, but he says that replay data doesn't include income rate or unspent resources.

Blizzard! Include these data in replay files so we can have SQ in sc2gears, please!!!11
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#416
WOW!

Incredible post, with a pretty damn niced sized data set for just one person doing all the work. Thanks so much for this awesome analysis and some cool insight into macro comparisons.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Marth
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany146 Posts
September 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#417
Did you do this with SPSS? It's a very nice tool for statistics

Great work, a lot of the stuff here reminds me of my statistics lecture ^.^
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Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
September 16 2011 21:14 GMT
#418
it'd be interesting to see the new calculations next patch after BFH are nerfed.
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 16 2011 21:18 GMT
#419
On September 17 2011 06:12 Cambam wrote:
Just posted on the sc2gears thread that he should include this in his program, but he says that replay data doesn't include income rate or unspent resources.

Blizzard! Include these data in replay files so we can have SQ in sc2gears, please!!!11

That's pretty odd, that replay data doesn't have the stuff that's posted on the score screen (or an easy way to generate that data).
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
September 16 2011 21:19 GMT
#420
Just wanted to add my thank you for this amazing post, very well done and great read!
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