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On September 14 2011 23:11 Dragonmaster26 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 21:30 Poopi wrote:On September 14 2011 21:24 BigKahunaBurger wrote:On September 14 2011 20:56 Femari wrote:On September 14 2011 20:39 Dakkas wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 Femari wrote:On September 14 2011 20:01 Dakkas wrote:On September 14 2011 19:51 Femari wrote:On September 14 2011 17:50 Meteora.GB wrote:On September 14 2011 17:22 obsKura wrote:
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^ This. Definitely this. He gets absolutely no credit and is severely underrated/hated on the forums simply because he said Jinro's run to the semis was by luck. Honestly I feel that people took his statement too seriously. It is fine for Koreans to trash talk or simply say they are outright bad to each other but when they say anything about foreigners the people on TL seems to get butthurt. Plus he also pulled an upset by sweeping the fan favourite MMA in the finals, which probably contributed to furthermore hate to him. I guess he's certainly not the most inspiring player to watch and for some mysterious reason he has this aura which makes the players he play seem to play mediocre (that or he plays so solid and brilliantly that in a subtle manner the other player looks just bad), but that doesn't take anything away from his accomplishment. Compare to players like Bomber and MMA who failed to either win a finals or get to there in the first place respectively, Polt has done what the other highly rated Terrans couldn't. Oh well. As Fionn said, Polt is fuelled by hatred. Guess it works either way. At the same time the people that say he is underrated overrate him by putting him as a top 5 player and on the level of MVP and Bomber. Personally as a MMA fan I do not hate him at all. He's a great player. Was I sad when MMA got 4-0'd? Yeah. Does it mean I hate the guy? No. Yeah he won a tournament. So did FruitDealer and well he's not exactly a top player anymore. Winning a tournament doesn't mean you're one of the best. It doesn't mean he's on the caliber of players like MVP like the people who say he's underrated like to put him. Yes Polt is really good. But in saying he's underrated I hope people stop overrating him in the process. He's a really good top 15 or top 10 player. But he's not one of the best of the best. How on earth is being top 10 not one of the best? Being in the top 10 doesn't make you MVP level. That's the best. MVP level. Bomber level. He's not one of those players like some of the people that say he's underrated like to say. There's a biiiig difference between really good and elite, TOP vs MVP was a good example of that. Take a step back and look at it this way. He is top 10 of tens of thousands of players. MVP is an anomaly much like Nestea, it's unfair to compare them with anyone. Being in the top 10 IS being best of the best You're missing the point in which I was saying a lot of the people saying he was underrated were putting him on that level of MVP and Bomber. To be quite honest with you, I find Bomber just as overrated as I find Polt underrated. His play never seems to impress me, and Artosis' hype always builds him up to be great when in reality, his games are disappointing. He's "supposed" to sweep season, but instead gets knocked out by Keen. Polt is supposed to get rolled by Losira in the first round and instead wins the hwole Super Tournament. Now I realise Bomber has a great ELO, but Polt's winning records was also pretty scary. I just have trouble accepting the fact that people are willing to exclude Polt from any grouping Bomber gets into. Polt is better than Bomber, not only from his results (which are far better let's be honest) but by his "games" too. Bomber can be great at times (great play and victories over good opponents) and average other times. He can't be consistent enough and that appears in his results. He has great potential and sure some skill but something is holding him back. The only terran really better than Polt is Mvp. Anyways, sad news for his SC2 carrier since I guess it's because of studies, and for the people who like him & Prime I hope that he won't switch to another team. (and please no foreigner team LOL that would be... sad I guess) Then why did he lose to both Bomber and TOP in quite one sided series.
Bomber then lost to Keen. Does that mean that Keen is better than Bomber?
Polt beat Keen who beat Bomber, does that mean that Polt is better than Bomber because of that result? olol.
Anyways he lost to TOP because he went bio if I read correctly (and mech >>> bio except on a few maps where it's equal), and TOP is a top terran as well but not as good overall as Polt, and lost to Bomber cuz he missed an air battle, then Bomber got a BO win on terminus. Plus Bomber is very good so no shame losing to him, but overall Polt is better (better TvZ shown in GSL, has won a championship and advance further than Bomber each time, plus he has the best TvP in the world, even if Bomber has a good TvP too)
edit : didnt see MrSweetness post, but I agree with him he explains very well why Polt started to struggle more and more in TvT (as well as MarineKing and sCfOu) and that people think he is a timing attacker only because we saw a lot of TvT. His TvP is the best whatever style he use (macro game or one base, early aggro, everything)
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Might become FXOPolt, as they need a new ace from losing Sc
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Quite a surprising move. As this move is mid september and not a month or so earlier I think that the move has more to do with wanting a change of team then that the move is study related. (like TanDongHo's move to Dignitas for example)
Team wise within Korea he could be going pretty much anywhere although I would find FXO the most likely target with TSL being the second possibility. At the other hand I do feel that OGS would be pretty unlikely.
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On September 14 2011 23:26 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 23:11 Dragonmaster26 wrote:On September 14 2011 21:30 Poopi wrote:On September 14 2011 21:24 BigKahunaBurger wrote:On September 14 2011 20:56 Femari wrote:On September 14 2011 20:39 Dakkas wrote:On September 14 2011 20:29 Femari wrote:On September 14 2011 20:01 Dakkas wrote:On September 14 2011 19:51 Femari wrote:On September 14 2011 17:50 Meteora.GB wrote:
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Definitely this. He gets absolutely no credit and is severely underrated/hated on the forums simply because he said Jinro's run to the semis was by luck. Honestly I feel that people took his statement too seriously. It is fine for Koreans to trash talk or simply say they are outright bad to each other but when they say anything about foreigners the people on TL seems to get butthurt. Plus he also pulled an upset by sweeping the fan favourite MMA in the finals, which probably contributed to furthermore hate to him.
I guess he's certainly not the most inspiring player to watch and for some mysterious reason he has this aura which makes the players he play seem to play mediocre (that or he plays so solid and brilliantly that in a subtle manner the other player looks just bad), but that doesn't take anything away from his accomplishment. Compare to players like Bomber and MMA who failed to either win a finals or get to there in the first place respectively, Polt has done what the other highly rated Terrans couldn't.
Oh well. As Fionn said, Polt is fuelled by hatred. Guess it works either way. At the same time the people that say he is underrated overrate him by putting him as a top 5 player and on the level of MVP and Bomber. Personally as a MMA fan I do not hate him at all. He's a great player. Was I sad when MMA got 4-0'd? Yeah. Does it mean I hate the guy? No. Yeah he won a tournament. So did FruitDealer and well he's not exactly a top player anymore. Winning a tournament doesn't mean you're one of the best. It doesn't mean he's on the caliber of players like MVP like the people who say he's underrated like to put him. Yes Polt is really good. But in saying he's underrated I hope people stop overrating him in the process. He's a really good top 15 or top 10 player. But he's not one of the best of the best. How on earth is being top 10 not one of the best? Being in the top 10 doesn't make you MVP level. That's the best. MVP level. Bomber level. He's not one of those players like some of the people that say he's underrated like to say. There's a biiiig difference between really good and elite, TOP vs MVP was a good example of that. Take a step back and look at it this way. He is top 10 of tens of thousands of players. MVP is an anomaly much like Nestea, it's unfair to compare them with anyone. Being in the top 10 IS being best of the best You're missing the point in which I was saying a lot of the people saying he was underrated were putting him on that level of MVP and Bomber. To be quite honest with you, I find Bomber just as overrated as I find Polt underrated. His play never seems to impress me, and Artosis' hype always builds him up to be great when in reality, his games are disappointing. He's "supposed" to sweep season, but instead gets knocked out by Keen. Polt is supposed to get rolled by Losira in the first round and instead wins the hwole Super Tournament. Now I realise Bomber has a great ELO, but Polt's winning records was also pretty scary. I just have trouble accepting the fact that people are willing to exclude Polt from any grouping Bomber gets into. Polt is better than Bomber, not only from his results (which are far better let's be honest) but by his "games" too. Bomber can be great at times (great play and victories over good opponents) and average other times. He can't be consistent enough and that appears in his results. He has great potential and sure some skill but something is holding him back. The only terran really better than Polt is Mvp. Anyways, sad news for his SC2 carrier since I guess it's because of studies, and for the people who like him & Prime I hope that he won't switch to another team. (and please no foreigner team LOL that would be... sad I guess) Then why did he lose to both Bomber and TOP in quite one sided series. Bomber then lost to Keen. Does that mean that Keen is better than Bomber? Polt beat Keen who beat Bomber, does that mean that Polt is better than Bomber because of that result? olol. Anyways he lost to TOP because he went bio if I read correctly (and mech >>> bio except on a few maps where it's equal), and TOP is a top terran as well but not as good overall as Polt, and lost to Bomber cuz he missed an air battle, then Bomber got a BO win on terminus. Plus Bomber is very good so no shame losing to him, but overall Polt is better (better TvZ shown in GSL, has won a championship and advance further than Bomber each time, plus he has the best TvP in the world, even if Bomber has a good TvP too) edit : didnt see MrSweetness post, but I agree with him he explains very well why Polt started to struggle more and more in TvT (as well as MarineKing and sCfOu) and that people think he is a timing attacker only because we saw a lot of TvT. His TvP is the best whatever style he use (macro game or one base, early aggro, everything)
Just goes to show results aren't always reliable.
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I think he gonna join a foreign team thats in Korea :D
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On September 14 2011 14:06 Milkis wrote:
As far as what I'm hearing he's going to remain teamless for a while. No transfers as far as I know. He has a semester left in college so perhaps he's trying to finish that up.
My guess is he may go back to Prime once his semester is over.
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Dignitas is onto him. dPolt incoming.
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Not sure if you guys read the post but it states he will act as an independent player. Maybe he is trying to prove something.
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On September 14 2011 22:23 antilyon wrote:
As a Prime fan this news is pretty sad...well, best of luck to him.
At least MKP can get the optimus ID now.
No, the Optimus ID is reserved for the last Prime player to win a GSL. That's why MKP didn't take Optimus after his two 2nd place finishes.
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I may have to pull a George Lucas and add my "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
Polt! Why are you doing this to me?! T_T
Hopefully it's just for a semester, and he goes back to Prime, if not, I'd like to see him stay on a Korean team.
Why Polt, why?!!?!?!?!
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Maybe management or contract problems at Prime?
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or maybe he had contradtual obligations if he stayed with the team that may unduly interfere with his studies. 3x a week practice sessions will do that.
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So this explains why Polt wasn't on Primezzang site as a model.
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Studies are important, even for pro players!
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He's going to Slayers just like everybody else
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Aww Prime is one of my favorite teams and they could definitely use him. 
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Interesting. I've never much cared for Polt but he is a good player. He needs to get picked up soon if he wants to continue to play in the GSL.
Wonder who'll get him?
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On September 15 2011 00:05 Avalain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 22:23 antilyon wrote:
As a Prime fan this news is pretty sad...well, best of luck to him.
At least MKP can get the optimus ID now. No, the Optimus ID is reserved for the last Prime player to win a GSL. That's why MKP didn't take Optimus after his two 2nd place finishes.
Yeah and Polt isn't a Prime player now therefore he can get the ID.
You're confusing 'can' with 'will'.
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I think polt wanted change.
And by change he meant changes to his bank account, the number there is way too low.
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Team Alternate ATTAX told on Facebook " Big news incoming tonight - stay tuned"
That would be great, but i am waiting for tonight.
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