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On September 02 2011 04:42 flowSthead wrote: Something isn't quite right. Fenix left Fnatic a few weeks ago in August, while that tournament was last year in December. If what TT1 is saying is true, then why did it take them 8 months to make a decision? Or was the tournament payed out only 7 or 8 months later?
Probably because he was on contract until August, and up for renewal, in which case no renew. On another note, If everything said so far is fact, then people should be on TT1s side. Its clear.
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On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote: TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. lol im being greedy, being a two faced double crosser is normal to you? might whant to have your priorities checked bro pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me
Really?
Arent we too old to this kind of QQ?
Fenix and you had a deal, the 50/50 split stuff. Ok thats normal. Many people do deals like that even in small tournaments with shitty prizepools. So when Fenix felt that he was about to win he said that the deal is no more. OVER. Well dude thats your problem (Fenix and you). Solve it like the men do, you and Fenix. This shitty thing: Crying in forums and telling everyone that Fenix is a untrustworthy scumbag IS BULLSHIT. This is what cowards do. Be a man TT1. Face Fenix and tell him how the fuck you are going to solve this shit (Whenever you meet again at any event).
Grow up KID.
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playing against the 2 best players in the world regularly as practice partners... would not be suprised if he becomes the best foreigner.
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On September 02 2011 10:25 GoKu` wrote: playing against the 2 best players in the world regularly as practice partners... would not be suprised if he becomes the best foreigner.
Yeah should be interesting to see how far he progresses while he is with IM.
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On September 02 2011 10:19 BleuDeChanel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote: TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. lol im being greedy, being a two faced double crosser is normal to you? might whant to have your priorities checked bro pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me Really? Arent we too old to this kind of QQ? Fenix and you had a deal, the 50/50 split stuff. Ok thats normal. Many people do deals like that even in small tournaments with shitty prizepools. So when Fenix felt that he was about to win he said that the deal is no more. OVER. Well dude thats your problem (Fenix and you). Solve it like the men do, you and Fenix. This shitty thing: Crying in forums and telling everyone that Fenix is a untrustworthy scumbag IS BULLSHIT. This is what cowards do. Be a man TT1. Face Fenix and tell him how the fuck you are going to solve this shit (Whenever you meet again at any event). Grow up KID.
Uh.. it wasn't TT1 who revealed the story. We're talking about a 2010 tournament, and TT1 stayed quiet until now, when someone else told the story to the public.
Honestly if everything he said is true, I don't know how people would still side with Fenix. Integrity > all
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On September 02 2011 10:19 BleuDeChanel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote: TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. lol im being greedy, being a two faced double crosser is normal to you? might whant to have your priorities checked bro pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me Really? Arent we too old to this kind of QQ? Fenix and you had a deal, the 50/50 split stuff. Ok thats normal. Many people do deals like that even in small tournaments with shitty prizepools. So when Fenix felt that he was about to win he said that the deal is no more. OVER. Well dude thats your problem (Fenix and you). Solve it like the men do, you and Fenix. This shitty thing: Crying in forums and telling everyone that Fenix is a untrustworthy scumbag IS BULLSHIT. This is what cowards do. Be a man TT1. Face Fenix and tell him how the fuck you are going to solve this shit (Whenever you meet again at any event). Grow up KID.
You can't just go back on a deal unless both parties agree. It's absurd people are defending Fenix if everything said is true. I cannot believe you would side with a thief and liar, and not only that but also attack TT1 for wanting what was agreed upon.
Sir, I think you should grow up.
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On September 02 2011 09:59 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 09:44 Chronald wrote: YEAAAA
GRATS FENIX!!! SO AWESOME!!
To all the haters, fuck you. This guy has put in more time, more effort, and more blood than you could possibly hope to devote to anything in your miserable life. Stop hating and get a fucking minimum wage job already. lol how much do you make sir ?
$27/hour sir.
I also go to school full time.
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On September 02 2011 10:41 puzzl wrote: Congrats Fenix! This was actually a good post, re-post it in the other thread.
On-topic: congrats to Fenix, I'm sure a lot of people would be jelly.
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Really awesome!!!! congrats Fenix!
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Fenix is really fucking good. I normally don't really like watching terran games in the GSTL, but he's got some cool style. I hope he's able to adapt to the Korean pro lifestyle and go far in an individual league!
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Congrats to Fenix, hard road of hardcore practicing ahead of him!
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On September 02 2011 10:46 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 10:19 BleuDeChanel wrote:On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote: TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. lol im being greedy, being a two faced double crosser is normal to you? might whant to have your priorities checked bro pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me Really? Arent we too old to this kind of QQ? Fenix and you had a deal, the 50/50 split stuff. Ok thats normal. Many people do deals like that even in small tournaments with shitty prizepools. So when Fenix felt that he was about to win he said that the deal is no more. OVER. Well dude thats your problem (Fenix and you). Solve it like the men do, you and Fenix. This shitty thing: Crying in forums and telling everyone that Fenix is a untrustworthy scumbag IS BULLSHIT. This is what cowards do. Be a man TT1. Face Fenix and tell him how the fuck you are going to solve this shit (Whenever you meet again at any event). Grow up KID. You can't just go back on a deal unless both parties agree. It's absurd people are defending Fenix if everything said is true. I cannot believe you would side with a thief and liar, and not only that but also attack TT1 for wanting what was agreed upon. Sir, I think you should grow up.
Im not saying Fenix is innocent or something like that. To be honest if what TT1 is saying is true then it would not surprise me at all.
I'm not defending Fenix.
I'm just saying TT1 is acting like a kid in this thread.
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On September 02 2011 10:46 MyNameWuzBoB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 10:19 BleuDeChanel wrote:On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote: TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. lol im being greedy, being a two faced double crosser is normal to you? might whant to have your priorities checked bro pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me Really? Arent we too old to this kind of QQ? Fenix and you had a deal, the 50/50 split stuff. Ok thats normal. Many people do deals like that even in small tournaments with shitty prizepools. So when Fenix felt that he was about to win he said that the deal is no more. OVER. Well dude thats your problem (Fenix and you). Solve it like the men do, you and Fenix. This shitty thing: Crying in forums and telling everyone that Fenix is a untrustworthy scumbag IS BULLSHIT. This is what cowards do. Be a man TT1. Face Fenix and tell him how the fuck you are going to solve this shit (Whenever you meet again at any event). Grow up KID. You can't just go back on a deal unless both parties agree. It's absurd people are defending Fenix if everything said is true. I cannot believe you would side with a thief and liar, and not only that but also attack TT1 for wanting what was agreed upon. Sir, I think you should grow up.
Deals aren't contracts.
Also stop freaking talking about this in a topic called "Fenix to Team IM" when it's obvious this discussion is supposed to be in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261616 "Should "Deal Making" be illegal?" topic like the moderators said so -_-
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On September 02 2011 08:28 theBizness wrote:On a semi-related note, been watching Sase's stream a bit and he seems to be doing quite well on the Korean ladder for what it's worth. Apparently he hit #3 on GM at one point.
Congrats to Fenix. I haven't seen much of his play since the first few months after SCII's release.
Yea, this is off-topic though I agree that a toss inclusion on IM would make me excited. Sase is playing very well on Korean ladder. I've been impressed watching him.
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I just watched F.United GSTL match from the other day. Not suprised now that Fenix was picked up. Smart move on IM's part.
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On September 02 2011 10:19 BleuDeChanel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote: TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. lol im being greedy, being a two faced double crosser is normal to you? might whant to have your priorities checked bro pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me Really? Arent we too old to this kind of QQ? Fenix and you had a deal, the 50/50 split stuff. Ok thats normal. Many people do deals like that even in small tournaments with shitty prizepools. So when Fenix felt that he was about to win he said that the deal is no more. OVER. Well dude thats your problem (Fenix and you). Solve it like the men do, you and Fenix. This shitty thing: Crying in forums and telling everyone that Fenix is a untrustworthy scumbag IS BULLSHIT. This is what cowards do. Be a man TT1. Face Fenix and tell him how the fuck you are going to solve this shit (Whenever you meet again at any event). Grow up KID.
your the kid u dumb fuck i brought this point up several times with fenix, face to face.. pls stop talking out of ur ass if u dont know wat ur talking about
unless uve been living under a rock u would have known that me and fenix were living together for a while in the root/fnatic house and were in the same team for a long time, this discussion was brought up at mlg anaheim and i told him everything that had to be said
edit: GOD i have a problem.. i keep saying that i wont post anymore but ignoring these type of ppl is so hard
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