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vVv Roar
Profile Joined October 2010
United States75 Posts
August 21 2011 23:22 GMT
#41
Keep those applications coming, looking forward too who will come out!
www.vVv-Gaming.com
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
August 21 2011 23:28 GMT
#42
On August 22 2011 04:24 SwirlQ wrote:
Is there a age restriction for the academy?
Edit: Age restriction is 16+ from what I read on the application page. TT half a year off.. so hard for teens/kids to get opportunities.


hidden secret of vVv: you an app at any age as long as you're not an "immature monster"
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
August 22 2011 00:15 GMT
#43
hey, when will we know if we're accepted or not?
Meatex
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia285 Posts
August 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#44
Wish I could have a shot at this but I live in Korea TT
Really, why is real cheese so hard to come by in Korea? ^&^
SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
August 22 2011 02:23 GMT
#45
On August 22 2011 09:15 VPCursed wrote:
hey, when will we know if we're accepted or not?


Acceptance into the academy will be determined by a quarterly BO3 double-elimination tournament . The first tournament will be held on September 23rd through 25th.
Staff vVv Gaming | "So what did you do today?" "Oh not much, mined some minerals, harvested some gas, spawned some zergs, the usual"
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 02:27:58
August 22 2011 02:27 GMT
#46
On August 22 2011 06:15 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 06:01 Zaros wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:31 SugarBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 04:58 Zaros wrote:
Can you explain why non US citizens are not allowed in the academy is it purely a cost thing for shipping them to events or what?


For the first season we want to keep it as simple as possible. In later seasons we may be able to support other regions depending on how this goes.


But I dont see why it complicates things not being FROM the US, if one has an american account and can show up at the right times.



I think right now if a euro player does well. They still can't send them to a MLG. Cause its way to expensive. Like it says in the OP. The best performing member of the academy will be sent to MLG. This won't happen if the player is from europe.



I think its more to keep costs down. Plus the hours would be a little harsh on your body if you have school and such, as either you would be playing really early morning or late late night. Again this would make things slightly more complex and make practice harder for European players.
This is just my take on the rule though and Is just my perspective as someone who has applied to the academy.




Also I was wondering. Can we get like a quote from a pro player or something as part of our application. So you have references of sorts.


even with a reference your still a gold player =/

glad to see vvv revamping their academy model =) GL to everyone !
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 22 2011 02:45 GMT
#47
On August 22 2011 11:27 desrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 06:15 masterbreti wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:01 Zaros wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:31 SugarBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 04:58 Zaros wrote:
Can you explain why non US citizens are not allowed in the academy is it purely a cost thing for shipping them to events or what?


For the first season we want to keep it as simple as possible. In later seasons we may be able to support other regions depending on how this goes.


But I dont see why it complicates things not being FROM the US, if one has an american account and can show up at the right times.



I think right now if a euro player does well. They still can't send them to a MLG. Cause its way to expensive. Like it says in the OP. The best performing member of the academy will be sent to MLG. This won't happen if the player is from europe.



I think its more to keep costs down. Plus the hours would be a little harsh on your body if you have school and such, as either you would be playing really early morning or late late night. Again this would make things slightly more complex and make practice harder for European players.
This is just my take on the rule though and Is just my perspective as someone who has applied to the academy.




Also I was wondering. Can we get like a quote from a pro player or something as part of our application. So you have references of sorts.


even with a reference your still a gold player =/

glad to see vvv revamping their academy model =) GL to everyone !


So someone who doesn't ladder and still has improved a ton can't get in. I sent LordJerith a pm and he said just to explain the reason why I don't ladder and I did.

Simply enough I do not ladder, nor have I laddered really since december of last year. I maybe play 3-4 matches a season on ladder and play against practice partners most of the time. Many of them being Korean players.

I am fine with playing tournament games, and custom games against practice partners. I cannot take to laddering much. As nerves sometimes get a little rough on me and I cannot play near to where I want to be. Never had an issue in online tournaments and don't expect to have the same issue in LAN's.

I bring up the question to you desRow. Have you seen me play? have you seen where I am currently? not that I'm aware of. Auctally in some games I played against Sterling. I won against him in a TvT, and also beat him in 2 TvP (he played toss those games). He likely didn't play his best. Though I still won.

I've gotten my play looked at by some top players and they have said when I play well. I play at a high masters level. Then there are some games where I don't perform as well. I took note of those ones and they were the ones that were ladder replays. The few I had anyways.
Meatex
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia285 Posts
August 22 2011 03:39 GMT
#48
@masterbreti
you might be truthful when you say you don't ladder but actually a good player but many many people say the same thing and many of those people could easily get a high level player to say they are good too.
Asking to look at your games may be a fair thing to ask from your point of view but think about the poor guy(s) that have to watch every replay from every applicant regardless of level. That would be a nightmare as usually it would be 20 replays per applicant to get a good idea.

So instead of getting mad try to understand from their point of view. They have to set some limits to get a manageable amount of viable applicants. If you're serious about being a pro gamer then sounds to me like you need to work on your nerves because I can't imagine anyone unable to perform on ladder yet being able to at an MLG tbh

Like I said I would love to have a chance but not US and lag from KR to US will probably prevent me from reaching MLG levels
Really, why is real cheese so hard to come by in Korea? ^&^
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
August 22 2011 03:53 GMT
#49
On August 22 2011 11:45 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 11:27 desrow wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:15 masterbreti wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:01 Zaros wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:31 SugarBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 04:58 Zaros wrote:
Can you explain why non US citizens are not allowed in the academy is it purely a cost thing for shipping them to events or what?


For the first season we want to keep it as simple as possible. In later seasons we may be able to support other regions depending on how this goes.


But I dont see why it complicates things not being FROM the US, if one has an american account and can show up at the right times.



I think right now if a euro player does well. They still can't send them to a MLG. Cause its way to expensive. Like it says in the OP. The best performing member of the academy will be sent to MLG. This won't happen if the player is from europe.



I think its more to keep costs down. Plus the hours would be a little harsh on your body if you have school and such, as either you would be playing really early morning or late late night. Again this would make things slightly more complex and make practice harder for European players.
This is just my take on the rule though and Is just my perspective as someone who has applied to the academy.




Also I was wondering. Can we get like a quote from a pro player or something as part of our application. So you have references of sorts.


even with a reference your still a gold player =/

glad to see vvv revamping their academy model =) GL to everyone !


So someone who doesn't ladder and still has improved a ton can't get in. I sent LordJerith a pm and he said just to explain the reason why I don't ladder and I did.

Simply enough I do not ladder, nor have I laddered really since december of last year. I maybe play 3-4 matches a season on ladder and play against practice partners most of the time. Many of them being Korean players.

I am fine with playing tournament games, and custom games against practice partners. I cannot take to laddering much. As nerves sometimes get a little rough on me and I cannot play near to where I want to be. Never had an issue in online tournaments and don't expect to have the same issue in LAN's.

I bring up the question to you desRow. Have you seen me play? have you seen where I am currently? not that I'm aware of. Auctally in some games I played against Sterling. I won against him in a TvT, and also beat him in 2 TvP (he played toss those games). He likely didn't play his best. Though I still won.

I've gotten my play looked at by some top players and they have said when I play well. I play at a high masters level. Then there are some games where I don't perform as well. I took note of those ones and they were the ones that were ladder replays. The few I had anyways.


why do you not take a week focusing on your ladder ranking to make it decent then ?


is it possible to know what the level of the average academy member will be ?
SCPlato
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States249 Posts
August 22 2011 03:58 GMT
#50
On August 22 2011 11:45 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 11:27 desrow wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:15 masterbreti wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:01 Zaros wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:31 SugarBear wrote:
On August 22 2011 04:58 Zaros wrote:
Can you explain why non US citizens are not allowed in the academy is it purely a cost thing for shipping them to events or what?


For the first season we want to keep it as simple as possible. In later seasons we may be able to support other regions depending on how this goes.


But I dont see why it complicates things not being FROM the US, if one has an american account and can show up at the right times.



I think right now if a euro player does well. They still can't send them to a MLG. Cause its way to expensive. Like it says in the OP. The best performing member of the academy will be sent to MLG. This won't happen if the player is from europe.



I think its more to keep costs down. Plus the hours would be a little harsh on your body if you have school and such, as either you would be playing really early morning or late late night. Again this would make things slightly more complex and make practice harder for European players.
This is just my take on the rule though and Is just my perspective as someone who has applied to the academy.




Also I was wondering. Can we get like a quote from a pro player or something as part of our application. So you have references of sorts.


even with a reference your still a gold player =/

glad to see vvv revamping their academy model =) GL to everyone !


I am fine with playing tournament games, and custom games against practice partners. I cannot take to laddering much. As nerves sometimes get a little rough on me and I cannot play near to where I want to be. Never had an issue in online tournaments and don't expect to have the same issue in LAN's.



Well no offense, but if you get nerves from laddering, live events/tournaments will be even worse for you. I don't know how you can say those don't affect you but laddering does.

Everyone says "I am x, but I play at Y" Diamond players who call themselves masters. Masters players who call themselves pros.

If you were really as good as you say, you could get to Masters in one, two days tops. Just go do it if you wanted to be able to do stuff with Masters prerequisites.
All men are by nature equal, made all of the same earth by one Workman; and however we deceive ourselves, as dear unto God is the poor peasant as the mighty prince. -Plato
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 22 2011 10:44 GMT
#51
On August 22 2011 04:09 SugarBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 03:50 Glon wrote:
:O why not random? so if guniepig decided to app to our academy he couldn't? Anyways, this is a completely academy and the added benefits are really nice. vVv Fighting!


That's an interesting thought. Maybe we should let random players apply to the academy? I think we just assumed that most random players pick 1 race to play competitively, but perhaps there are some who compete as random?

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?


I think if you want to support up and coming talents, it has to be a non - random player as well. It might be true that there are some randoms that might stand out, but in the long distance its impossible or nearly impossible to play 9 match ups on an equal level compared to just 3.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
August 22 2011 10:46 GMT
#52
Maybe I'll use this as a way to try to get myself playing SC2 more =D
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
August 22 2011 14:18 GMT
#53
On August 22 2011 12:53 Toxi78 wrote:
is it possible to know what the level of the average academy member will be ?


Not before the tournament. I expect mid-high masters is most likely where we will end up.
Staff vVv Gaming | "So what did you do today?" "Oh not much, mined some minerals, harvested some gas, spawned some zergs, the usual"
SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
August 22 2011 14:23 GMT
#54
On August 22 2011 12:39 Meatex wrote:
@masterbreti
you might be truthful when you say you don't ladder but actually a good player but many many people say the same thing and many of those people could easily get a high level player to say they are good too.
Asking to look at your games may be a fair thing to ask from your point of view but think about the poor guy(s) that have to watch every replay from every applicant regardless of level. That would be a nightmare as usually it would be 20 replays per applicant to get a good idea.

So instead of getting mad try to understand from their point of view. They have to set some limits to get a manageable amount of viable applicants. If you're serious about being a pro gamer then sounds to me like you need to work on your nerves because I can't imagine anyone unable to perform on ladder yet being able to at an MLG tbh

Like I said I would love to have a chance but not US and lag from KR to US will probably prevent me from reaching MLG levels


Just to be clear there's no "official" requirement to be a master/GM level player to apply, but if we receive more than 32 applications we will be using ladder rank as one of the factors to determine who to select for the tournament this season.
Staff vVv Gaming | "So what did you do today?" "Oh not much, mined some minerals, harvested some gas, spawned some zergs, the usual"
SugarBear
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States842 Posts
September 12 2011 23:40 GMT
#55
The tournament starts one week from Friday. If anyone else wants to participate in this now is the time to apply!
Staff vVv Gaming | "So what did you do today?" "Oh not much, mined some minerals, harvested some gas, spawned some zergs, the usual"
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
September 13 2011 01:09 GMT
#56
On August 22 2011 23:18 SugarBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 12:53 Toxi78 wrote:
is it possible to know what the level of the average academy member will be ?


Not before the tournament. I expect mid-high masters is most likely where we will end up.


Orly sugar? I would guess high master will be on the lower end of the spectrum, most of them being NA GMs (aka Korean low-mid master ^.^)
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
SCPlato
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States249 Posts
September 17 2011 02:40 GMT
#57
When are you announcing who is in the tournament?
All men are by nature equal, made all of the same earth by one Workman; and however we deceive ourselves, as dear unto God is the poor peasant as the mighty prince. -Plato
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 03:32:30
September 25 2011 03:31 GMT
#58
Aww I wrote down the date as Oct 2 in my calender so I missed the tourny. Added my first opponent a week ago but he didn't msg me when I was on yesterday, oh well. No monthly titan coaching for me T_T
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