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SCDojoOrlando, FL ![[image loading]](http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4765/unledsva.png )
Hey,
If you know me, I stream out of Orlando and mention this a lot on my stream, if you don't - listen up.
I've been getting a lot of requests to see if a Starcraft II class could be hosted in Orlando by either myself or some other FL player. Now us Orlando guys have posted about Orlando events before and have shown amazing participation (LANKnights for example) - so I hope we keep up the reputation!
If you're say.. diamond or below, would you be interested in going to something like this? If so, what kind of things do you think would make a day or possibly a weekend of coaching worth going to? I'm buddy-buddy with the owner of Next Level LAN out near FullSail University and they have a room we could use complete with a projector and computers to set up an entire class. I also have connections with the local businesses in the area who can provide catering so you'd get fed as well as taught.
Below are some updates about the class that will be happening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATES: Everything is set to go!
LAST UPDATE (I think..). If you want to guarantee your spot in the class, your ONLY chance to pre-register on-site will be this FRIDAY during SCII night. If you are unable to do so, PM me and you can pre-register via paypal.
THERE WILL BE BEER!
When: Sunday, October 2nd, 2011 at noon Who: Myself and the instructors: Zerg: CatZ Protoss: Whiplash Terran: Spades Where: Next Level LAN Center (nextlevellan.com) What: this depends on the questions you answer above How: 30% class lecture, 70% hands-on Cost: $65 at the door, $60 pre-registration
If any of you want to get a preview of the place or want to play with the Orlando crew, head over to SCII nights: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145915
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Sounds like a great idea! Hopefully you get alot of interest. For me personally I'm a master level zerg, but if it was reasonably priced for a day of SC2 and fun talking to players better and worse than me, I'd be interested in going.
As to answer those questions I think you'd need to split into groups and have a good player familiar with all three races help build on players standard play or any solid build really.
As for which FL players, all of them!
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hey dude i live in kissimmee myself, i got 2 friedns that would love to see this...^_^ would you be able to hire people for the class or something like that looking for work lol related to SC2 would be best thing ever
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Well, so far I know 100% that you'll get a full day pass of PC gaming at the place if you do the class. That's a given. I'm going to see if I can get news of this posted at Full Sail or UCF as well. My thoughts was that I'd teach the Z part if no other FL zergs that are better than I am stepped up. I hang out with Whiplash IRL all the time so he can do Protoss with me. Spades is the only good FL terran that whip and I know so he may be able to cover that.
My goal is to have no more than 3 people teaching the course. The fewer the better. Now I'm sure the LAN Center would want a cut, so like half of the enrollment cost could go to them and the other half to pay for food and what little is left can go to the instructors, I guess. Just give me a heads up with the answers to those questions and I'll see what I can do from there. I'll obviously keep you guys updated through here and the stream.
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I might show up. i'll be in gainsville!
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I'm stationed at Patrick AFB in cocoa beach and I'd be more than happy to help out if needed.
1600+ zerg NA Masters season 2 1400+ zerg KR Masters season 2
Usually my schedule is up in the air because of shift work but at the same time I could be available during weekdays all day or weekends so that could be a plus.
I already do some free coaching through wtr1be so it wouldn't be a huge change for me.
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I live in windermere but I'm on ucf side a lot. I wish the 408 was cheaper. I'd be down for this. I need to meet you guys and play! Orlandowhaitingggg
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I live in windermere as well, this would be a pretty cool thing.
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Yes, yes , yes, finally happening~
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This is an awesome idea. I wish someone would do it out here in San Diego.
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CatZ.. you never show up to LANKnights you bum. I'll believe it when you finally decide to hang out with the Orlando crew! Besides all you got up there is drinking and the west oaks mall.
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I'm at the LANCenter right now. I'll speak with the owner again and see what some of the details will be. Tentatively we want to do this in mid-October or late Sept.
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Hey yea that was a fun LAN event I went to with u guys at UCF sometime in the very beginning of SCII, hopefully this one wouldn't have all those crazy disconnecting problems. I'd definitely come if it was on a Sunday which is the only day I don't have college this semester unfortunately. Remember that MLG Orlando is coming so you wouldn't want to make it on that same weekend.
As for the pricing, I don't really care, just as long as it's not too crazy. I play Zerg. Whatever u guys decide on the specifics is cool with me, I'd just b there for the experience.
Edit: Also, if people don't answer here make sure you pm them please ;-D
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Alright. So everybody is being a tad vague on pricing. For an entire day do you think $30 is too much? The big clincher is if there will be food or not....
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Yo, where is LANKnights held?
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I'd definitely pay probably up to like $75 or so depending on the length of time and coaches (AKA CatZ haha) if that makes u happy ;-D The LanKnights event I think he's referring to was at UCF. Would be fun just to see what the hell I've been doing wrong this whole time lol.
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taking coaching to the next level right here! good luck with this project
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I'd move to Orlando for that. Seems like everything awesome happens far away from where I live.
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On August 20 2011 07:04 Cecil wrote: Alright. So everybody is being a tad vague on pricing. For an entire day do you think $30 is too much? The big clincher is if there will be food or not....
Just from an outsider's point of view that sounds more than fair.
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I don't live anywhere close to Florida, but if one were near me I'd be in. Hell, if somebody did an online group coaching instead of 1 on 1's and just split the cost I'd do that.
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I'll record some of the classes too. I've already got a ton of material to put on slides (micro example videos, some numbers, etc.).
Would you like like a single day or weekend-long course? Starting time would be at like 10am
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I think you would need to somehow get this out so more people from Orlando or surrounding areas would hear about this. This thread is already way down in the second page since I last checked :-/ And probably the first time it might be better for just being one day and see if enough people would come for a whole weekend then.
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What would you suggest, then? Locally I may be having Full Sail advertise the course but if this thread isn't stickied it will be lost in the void of other threads.
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Spades are you still in Orlando? If we need a person to represent each race we might need ya. We're in brainstorming right now.
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I obviously can't participate but this sounds like a badass idea. I would definitely pay $30 for something like this, especially if catering was provided :D
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On August 20 2011 12:38 Spades wrote: sounds like a cool idea If you hop on, it's a done deal.
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You confuse me with CecilSunkure ;;
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This sounds awesome I'm kind of amazed I missed this thread before.
» How long would you want it to last? » How much would you want to pay? » What race would you want training for? » What specific mechanics of the game do you want to learn? » What kind of food would you like to have catered? » What balance of talking and hands-on would you expect to get? » Any specific FL players you'd like to see?
1. Around 2 hours. Maybe more with breaks. 2. $30-40 depending on if food is provided and/or class size 3. Protoss 4. Decision making, multitasking 5. Anything really 6. Tough to say, I guess more hands on when it is mechanical rather than theory. 7. Catz, Whiplash, Spades
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On August 20 2011 16:10 PoopLord wrote: You confuse me with CecilSunkure ;; Cecil came first + Show Spoiler +
Why not try doing this closer to a LANKnight event as a "test-run" to see how it would go and how many people would show up? Plus I mean, if you host a lan event followed up by this class, you have a much higher chance of grabbing people from FL to show up for at least the first time (aka catz)
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Good idea Energizer. We could have this hosted the day before/after a LANKnights event. So that way the trainees have a LAN to practice their stuff at immediately after.
I was going to make a facebook page to keep things updated but I'd like to keep this thread the primary source of info about this for now. For anybody else - just answer the questions posted in the Original thread and I'll get a good sense of what needs to be done. I'll take care of the rest.
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Just to give you some help on some ideas with the questions you asked earlier (even though they are for people wanting help). Still some good tips.
» How long would you want it to last?
You could do this a few ways. You could either have a pay per hour or a package deal of some sort. For example you could have like a 10/20/30 hour package that would cost 5-10% less than the pay per hour. This would allow some individuals to either mesh things with their schedule or to set up whenever they can.
» How much would you want to pay?
This could vary depending on the current skill level of the person and the work required to get them where they would like to be as well as based on the coaching staff.
» What race would you want training for?
Could try and get 2-3 coaches for each race.
» What specific mechanics of the game do you want to learn?
This will vary based on the person as well as the rank they would like to achieve. Certain divisions require certain aspects of the game to have a more in-depth look upon it.
» What kind of food would you like to have catered?
If you're lucky, you could potentially try and get a partnership with a local company/organization around Orlando. This could very well benefit both parties in which they in turn get x amount of income while the players are fed during their sessions.
» What balance of talking and hands-on would you expect to get?
This could vary based on the coach. Some coaches prefer to be more hands on while verbally lecturing, while some prefer to lecture with examples. Also will vary based on the individual being coached because people are different as a whole. Some prefer more hands on while some learn better taking notes and seeing diagrams.
» Any specific FL players you'd like to see?
I've been stationed in Florida for about two years, and I honestly dont pay attention to who is in this state to be honest. I just remember Brian (Spades) being here at one point and don't know if he is still here or not. If he is, he owes me a game ^_^;
Hopefully this information helped you out. Anything else I could help out with or any questions more than happy to help. Used to study business management and marketing before I dropped out for Active Duty military about twelve credit hours shy of my degree.
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On August 20 2011 12:49 Cecil wrote: Spades are you still in Orlando? If we need a person to represent each race we might need ya. We're in brainstorming right now. I'm in orlando til mid september, then im moving to san francisco, but ill be back mid october for 2 weeks or so, would probably be up for coming by.
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On August 22 2011 09:24 Spades wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2011 12:49 Cecil wrote: Spades are you still in Orlando? If we need a person to represent each race we might need ya. We're in brainstorming right now. I'm in orlando til mid september, then im moving to san francisco, but ill be back mid october for 2 weeks or so, would probably be up for coming by.
:O Didn't know you enjoyed the rainbow life ^_^;
What's in SF?
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Alright. For right now it looks to be that we're having this thing around mid October time as well. No updates as of yet. Keep the thread active so I know just how many people we may be looking at here.
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Sigh, wish I lived in FL...
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Possible caterers include Hooters, Pollo Tropical, Planet Smoothie or Dominos
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At DePauw University, we had a Starcraft course for winter term credit. Essentially it was a 3 week, 4 hours a day course in ESPORTs and how to play SC2. Team EP's Butteryllama taught the course, and it was great. Good luck with your course planning!
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I live in Orlando, I'd go. After MLG Raleigh of course
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The course WILL be before MLG Orlando in October.
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im looking forward to it, Cecil. I followed you from the WC3 days 
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I'm new to the Orlando SC2 scene. Are there regular SC2 events in town? Any Barcrafts in the area?
That being said, I would definitely attend some kind of training class. Only difficulty I see would be trying to balance the needs of the players. Bronze level players for example would need to focus on different things than a Plat player for example.
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I really, really want to do this. I'm young but I want to get better! lol
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Alright. The demand seems to be there. Please help me out and answer the questions in the original post. It'll help out a ton!
TL Staff: would it be possible for the news of this event to be put out there a little more once I have a date and more details available?
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» How long would you Want it to last? 2-3 hours
» How much would you Want to pay? $10? idk.
» What race would you Want training for? Protoss
» What specific mechanics of the game do you Want to learn? Keyboard mechanics, how to practice
» What kind of food would you like to have catered? Sandwiches? Tacos? I don't care.
» What balance of talking and hands-on would you expect to get? At least one game with someone behind my shoulder giving tips/suggestions
» Any specific FL players you'd like to see? That CatZ guy seems pretty legit =)
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» How long would you Want it to last? I would play up to like 5+ hours tbh. I want to get better. (If I could lol)
» How much would you Want to pay? Right now like 20-30 USD
» What race would you Want training for? Protoss
» What specific mechanics of the game do you Want to learn? Best way to practice, mechanics, Macro, and game knowledge.
» What kind of food would you like to have catered? I don't care, nothing like super greasy, cause I don't want my fingers slipping everywhere. (Samwhichs would be fine imo)
» What balance of talking and hands-on would you expect to get? I normally don't like getting yelled at whilst playing cause it can be distracting but will help. So maybe 50/50 would work for me. Or 2games of hands-on and then a talking one. (Maybe?)
» Any specific FL players you'd like to see? Hmm, CatZ is like the only FL player I know. I don't know many FL players :/
EDIT: I'm ranked in Silver (like rank 20), but I'm going to mass ladder tonight.
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Guys, I know this is short notice but would anybody who is interested be able to attend tomorrow night's Starcraft II night? I'd like to collaborate with those who are -really- interested first and get to know the crew some more. You can find more info about tomorrow's event here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145915
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» How long would you want it to last? 4-6 hours seems good. I'd stay longer if needed. » How much would you want to pay? $30-60 » What race would you want training for? Terran » What specific mechanics of the game do you want to learn? Multi-pronged aggression,Timing Windows, new builds, and better understanding of the game's mechanics. » What kind of food would you like to have catered? Anything delicious. » What balance of talking and hands-on would you expect to get? Coaching while playing, reviewing replays, cross coach/student interaction. » Any specific FL players you'd like to see? Spades, not really many other Florida Terrans.
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Keep the input coming. I hope to hear a lot from you guys in person tomorrow at Next Level! I'll show you guys the room we plan on having the class and stuff. (as well as playing sc2)
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i'm thinking that unless you guys have enormous preparation for it to be an actual class, it will be too slow moving (if you want it to be actually productive) and boring
unless you want it to be more of a hangout/club/practice group, which should work without much preparation needed
Also, when you are asking about "mechanics", i think you mean abilities/skills. Mechanics include: Kiting a ultralisk with a drone, Stutter-step (animation cancel) micro, moving a worker through units, back-space to inject larvae. I really don't think people would want to learn this, as you can easily search this up. Mechanics are not macro, harassment, etc., but how you translate your will to the game.
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You make a good point. My goal was to have a portion of this split up to where in the beginning you'll get some general powerpoint slides/demos which can have stuff like tips from the pros about factors outside of the game, a little bit of sc2 history, sites that the pros commonly visit to get better, etc. That shouldn't take too much time as it isn't the most important stuff in the world. After that I wanted to split into different groups for each race and have a more personal instructor/student interaction.
In other words, try to deliver the best of both worlds in the most engaging setting possible.
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On August 26 2011 07:21 Cecil wrote:Guys, I know this is short notice but would anybody who is interested be able to attend tomorrow night's Starcraft II night? I'd like to collaborate with those who are -really- interested first and get to know the crew some more. You can find more info about tomorrow's event here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145915 Yeah I should be there. I think this will be awesome if it goes through.
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I may be down, depending on date of the event, since I live like 15 minutes from NLL.
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Hey guys,
To those who are coming out there today - I need to run some errands and I should be at the LANCenter at around 4:30. See you then!
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On August 26 2011 12:45 Cecil wrote: You make a good point. My goal was to have a portion of this split up to where in the beginning you'll get some general powerpoint slides/demos which can have stuff like tips from the pros about factors outside of the game, a little bit of sc2 history, sites that the pros commonly visit to get better, etc. That shouldn't take too much time as it isn't the most important stuff in the world. After that I wanted to split into different groups for each race and have a more personal instructor/student interaction.
In other words, try to deliver the best of both worlds in the most engaging setting possible.
Ah, good idea. So you can have them play against each other while coaching them eh? sounds efficient
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The room has 6 TVs in there, so that would help serve for some 1 on 1 sessions
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First off I think this is a great idea. I live in Tampa, FL so something like this would be very accesible.
My suggestions, have it catered to all leagues. I'm a mid to high diamond player, so there is a lot I need to learn but usually when I use resources like Noobie Tuesdays or other learning devices it is really basic knowledge. Something that might be very cool, is having a weekend even that would show what it would be like in a gamer house, practice schedule, coaching, all that jazz.
*Edit to fill in the info*
» How long would you want it to last? At least 5+ hours, you can't fit in much knowledge with anything less. » How much would you want to pay? $30-45 » What race would you want training for? Terran » What specific mechanics of the game do you want to learn? Multi-tasking (apm building?), strategy, timings, general tips. » What kind of food would you like to have catered? Really anything, you could even get away with some cheap pizza, I would accept no food iif it means a lower price tag. » What balance of talking and hands-on would you expect to get? One on one coaching time would sell me for sure, I think that's very important. As well as live coaching a replay analysis. » Any specific FL players you'd like to see? I think Sheth lives in FL? I'm not too sure of many FL players, but any as long as they are knowledgeable and personable.
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First of all, I love the idea.
Some thoughts: I wonder if it might be best to split players up into different groups according to skill level, as lower-level and higher-level players will be looking for different advice. Maybe bronze/silver level players will be able to learn together about some very basic strategies and game plans and overviews of unit roles, while gold/platinum learn how to review replays and tighten up their build orders, and diamond players delve deeper into each of their race's individual matchups to figure out what they're missing. I worry that teaching everyone together, even when alternating material between skill levels as the day progresses, might lead to an unsatisfactory experience for everyone. From my experience helping friends from bronze to masters, I definitely worked with each differently and hammered home different concepts depending on their league. Furthermore, with the higher level players, there may be challenges only in specific matchups - for me, it's ZvT at the moment. Perhaps classes focused on those matchups for the higher-level players will really help.
I think the idea that I'm getting at here is a bunch of simultaneous sessions focusing on different aspects of the game. Unfortunately, I would imagine this makes logistics a lot more challenging. As a masters Zerg in Orlando, I'd be more than willing to help out. I've been to a couple LANKnights events and attend UCF, so I'd probably come anyway just to hang out and I'd see about bringing a couple of my friends from the area.
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Alright, from you guys input it seems like you would like for about 30% teaching to the whole class and then 70% of it to be 1 on 1 training or at least a skill-oriented group setting.
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On August 29 2011 01:13 Cecil wrote: Alright, from you guys input it seems like you would like for about 30% teaching to the whole class and then 70% of it to be 1 on 1 training or at least a skill-oriented group setting. Yeah that sounds good, 30/70% is a good idea.
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Another option for our caterer: Pollo Tropical
So we got the date set. Here are the next things (in order of importance) that I will find
Duration Trainers (I'll be training the plat and below players) Caterers Cost
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On August 28 2011 13:51 AssasaiN wrote: First of all, I love the idea.
Some thoughts: I wonder if it might be best to split players up into different groups according to skill level, as lower-level and higher-level players will be looking for different advice. Maybe bronze/silver level players will be able to learn together about some very basic strategies and game plans and overviews of unit roles, while gold/platinum learn how to review replays and tighten up their build orders, and diamond players delve deeper into each of their race's individual matchups to figure out what they're missing. I worry that teaching everyone together, even when alternating material between skill levels as the day progresses, might lead to an unsatisfactory experience for everyone. From my experience helping friends from bronze to masters, I definitely worked with each differently and hammered home different concepts depending on their league. Furthermore, with the higher level players, there may be challenges only in specific matchups - for me, it's ZvT at the moment. Perhaps classes focused on those matchups for the higher-level players will really help.
I think the idea that I'm getting at here is a bunch of simultaneous sessions focusing on different aspects of the game. Unfortunately, I would imagine this makes logistics a lot more challenging. As a masters Zerg in Orlando, I'd be more than willing to help out. I've been to a couple LANKnights events and attend UCF, so I'd probably come anyway just to hang out and I'd see about bringing a couple of my friends from the area. The more the merrier!
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Plat Terran in Orlando. I would be very interested in attending something like this... at the very least to meet some of the rest of the orlando SC community
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^ If you want to meet the community any time before the 1st of October, just join us for SCII nights every weekend.
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» How long would you want it to last? » How much would you want to pay? » What race would you want training for? » What specific mechanics of the game do you want to learn? » What kind of food would you like to have catered? » What balance of talking and hands-on would you expect to get? » Any specific FL players you'd like to see?
-I'd say 2-4 hours would be sufficient. -I'm willing to pay up to $50, but it depends on what's being offered and who's there. -Zerg -Advanced strategies (I'm a high Diamond Zerg player), macro and micro refinement, key scouting techniques. -I'm fine with club sandwiches, pizza or burgers. I don't like to drink soda often, and I doubt beer can be provided. I'd prefer bottled water. -In terms of Talking:1-on1, I'd like somewhere around 30 : 70 to 50 : 50 -Catz, since he's probably one of the best Zerg players in the area, and Whiplash, so I can kick his ass again at a Das Boot (the guy can't hold his booze).
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i just transfered to ucf im down ill be checkin back on this thread i have been watching starcraft religiously since brood war but i was never much of a player =/
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Going to give some news tonight about the classes in my show if anybody is interested: twitch.tv/CecilTV
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Major updates today! See the OP for more details. I have begun my part of the slides today, now the hard part... talking to all of the instructors at the same time.
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who would be teching each race? i kinda would want to know that befor i slap 50 big ones down if you could not tell i am brok =o
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On August 31 2011 07:00 ki11z0ne wrote: who would be teching each race? i kinda would want to know that befor i slap 50 big ones down if you could not tell i am brok =o It says it
Cecil (Plays Z), Spades, Whiplash, and an unnamed Zerg instructor
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I plan on instructing the gold and below players for a little while myself with regards to game mechanics and core things that a player needs to know to get into at least diamond.
EDIT: I'm also trying to get together a "goodie bag" for each student to have. Got any ideas as to what to put in them?
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*Improvement Notepad *Copy of How to Improve *Mouse Pad *Stickers *Motivational Poster *Stress Ball *ESPORTS Aviators
haha I'm really not sure
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Note the update on the OP. The day for this is being shifted forward by a week.
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Sounds like fun i live in orlando myself. Ill try to make it
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Date moved to SUNDAY, October 2nd. Why did I change it? That is the day after video game night at UCF where they will host an SC2 tournament. CatZ and Whiplash don't have to spend $50 in gas two times to make it out to Orlando and neither do you guys. Sorry about the date switching twice. I'm confident that this will be the final date.
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This will be a great event for all that want to come, try and come out guys!
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Should be fun, looking forward to it
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On September 06 2011 10:13 Spades wrote: Should be fun, looking forward to it
Seeing that you may be the T instructor I'd say so!
EDIT: Talked to some players at the NLL Labor Day event, we got about another 3 coming in addition to everyone else
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Awesome! Can't wait. I'm Zerg. Don't have time atm to read through the other pages but will later. Keep the updates coming ;-D
I'm signing up and hoping there won't be any problems with my classes which would be the only thing that would possibly hold me back.
Edit: Oh, and pizza or w/e is always fine for me, I'm not picky. About what I would like to happen there - I'll let you guys decide that since you're going through all the trouble of putting this together :-D. the 30/70 thing sounds fine to me though. I'll be there to enjoy myself and maybe get a little better, not looking to get to GM or anything :-)
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So far I've got 6 people who have reserved their seat. SEATS ARE LIMITED. I don't want to go over 16 people for this course. Some people want a more personal training and that gets harder to do with the more people who join. Keep the feedback coming and I will have some important updates for you guys by Friday regarding the fine details like exact cost, time of day, etc.
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just reserved my seat cant wait.
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I'm actually really interested, though I can't 100% confirm/sign up yet, gotta check the date and whatnot. I know Whiplash is/was a part of LANKnights, yeah? I'm toss so hands-on portion would be with him, and i'm only high diamond atm, but what I don't know is what type of style or play he generally goes for, and if he would be the right person for me regarding learning some of the more hypermodern builds, say in PvZ (shifting metagame kinda...).
I imagine I'll end up deciding to go, but I would have no way of getting there unless I can find someone else from LANKnights who's going to slipt gas money with, or just bum one off my roommate or something. Anyone else interested?
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Alright guys I just wanted to update this for you guys. This is now set in stone and the cost updates have been posted. The last thing I'm going to determine is the food. I'm going to try to get Jimmy Johns subs and perhaps some pizzas to go with it. Please keep the feedback going and help get the word around! Pre-registration opens at the end of the week.
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So what is the best way to pay for the preregistration?
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KOTG + HUNTS 4V4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Cecil,
KoD-Nizzy.
Goodluck with your classes. <3
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Best way for pre-reg is either by paypal or showing up to one of the Starcraft II nights and just paying in person. Also <3 Nizzy. KoD brings back the best memories
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Ill be tehre most deffenitly.
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To those who don't want to wait for me to post online pre-registration:
Go to Starcraft II night tomorrow night and I'll give you a run-down about the event and what you need to know as well as collect pre-registrations. Also don't forget that LANKnights is Saturday.
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sc2ranks doesnt really pull up much definitive stuff on whiplash for toss unless its the one from KR servers ^^ I know i have much to learn, but being at 1k masters in US, i dunno if any of the whiplashes that pull up there would be useful teachers =/
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That's entirely up to you. I'll have him post his credentials. You make a good point, though. If any of you guys don't know your instructors - ask questions. You deserve to know who they are and why they deserve to teach!
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On September 16 2011 11:42 Asberic wrote: sc2ranks doesnt really pull up much definitive stuff on whiplash for toss unless its the one from KR servers ^^ I know i have much to learn, but being at 1k masters in US, i dunno if any of the whiplashes that pull up there would be useful teachers =/
I ladder a lot on korea under whiplash, and eu/na under vtwhiplash. I'll admit that my ladder ranking isn't the best (and it certainly doesnt reflect my skill) but I assure you that I am easily on a grand master level and can easily take games off of pretty much anyone in the top 200 on na/eu servers. My last mlg run I went 1-2 vs Jinro and 2-0 gatored but lost to gretorp 0-2 as far as notable players go. Those are all great players and should give you a better skill indication then my ladder ranking.
Oh, also master level kr is prob around high master/gm equivalent on the US/EU server.
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I meant no offense, at all, as i do know some people as well that are at a ladder rating below their actual skill, that they do internal practice more often than otherwise, and that is a fair enough credential for me
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omg i almost want to go to this just because i need the training and because i <3 cecil from his wc3 days :D
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On September 16 2011 11:12 Cecil wrote: To those who don't want to wait for me to post online pre-registration:
Go to Starcraft II night tomorrow night and I'll give you a run-down about the event and what you need to know as well as collect pre-registrations. Also don't forget that LANKnights is Saturday.
what time and room or just at anytime?
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I'll be at next level LAN at around 5pm today. I'll be at the PC gaming area. You'll know me when you see me lol.
Tall skinny dude that looks like a frat boy -_-
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awesome. Great coaches except the Protoss coach. He's EXTRA GREAT :D I can vouch for whiplash for sure, the guy knows his shit. Don't be hatin!
Catz Whiplash Spades fightinggggggggg!~~~ love you guys glglgll!:D
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Gretorp you're always so good mannered ♥
You hanging out with us in Orlando?
EDIT: Heading over to next level LAN right now to those who are showing up tonight to talk about the class.
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On September 14 2011 06:41 Cecil wrote:KoD brings back the best memories  My best creation to date:
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On Topic : Best of luck with this class. Looking forward to seeing how successful this is!
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Is this a 1 day class? I'm tempted to flying out and checking it out if I have money to burn.
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This will be a 1 day class. However the day before is the game night at UCF. They will have all 3 instructors there and you can get to know the group then. It's up to you.
EDIT: I'm at Next Level LAN right now to take pre-registration. Thanks FlamingTurd for locking your spot in!
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Woot, met Cecil with his Eastern European counterpart. Also got to see Cecil 4 box some Hunters or Huntresses (forgot the name) and kick some ass! Found out I'm one of the 3 or 4 Zerg total signing up that they know of so far so it's gonna be some awesome times learning from CatZ, can't wait! Just read up there too that Gretorp could possibly show his awesome face which would really make too unbelievable of a day.
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Hey, just wondering if anymore Zerg signed up or if I'm still one of the lucky few being coached by Catz the whole time? :-D
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Just an update. If you want to guarantee your limited seat in the class the next pre-registration chance is this Saturday at SC2 night. Also the class will be starting at noon.
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Nice, glad we don't have to wake up super early ^__^
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You're having CatZ teaching? ..... Well, I live in LA, so I don't think $400 dollar airfare will be worth the one day class. Plus admission. If you were to stream segments of it, or put them in VODs.... *wink* *wink*
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We'll have a film group from Full Sail doing some of that for you, actually.
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Shameless bump and friendly reminder that this is NEXT WEEKEND! Can't wait to see you guys out there.
Majority of students are protoss, then terran, then zerg. TOMORROW is your last on-site pre-registration opportunity. I will be at NLL starting at 5pm. See you guys tomorrow night for SCII night!
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Oh, just wondering if we have to bring our own pc's since we will be in that other room?
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Awesome! After chugging my pc around and bringing all the wires so many times, this is definitely some good news for me.
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LAST UPDATE (I think..). If you want to guarantee your spot in the class, your ONLY chance to pre-register on-site will be this FRIDAY during SCII night. If you are unable to do so, PM me and you can pre-register via paypal.
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Best update ever: There will be BEER.
And maybe NOS energy drink. Is this awesome? y/n
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Sorry I can't come Cecil, I wou,ld have loved to go to it, but I don't have any money to burn especially if I want to go to MLG Orlando, and that is still a idea, not even sure if I can go yet. Well, gl and hf with the classes! Hope everything goes well! If there is a stream, I'll watch the while thing, and hopefully learn something from it.
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Hoooooly check!! This would be awesome on my C.V!
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Really productive day! We will post videos of the event for you guys to check out. Everybody had only praise to give for the course and we look forward to doing this again 
This is really going to start picking up...
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Can't wait to see the videos. This sounds really awesome and I'm sure everyone had a blast.
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It was a learning experience for the pros as well. Not everyone is used to teaching multiple people at a time
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Sounds like a blast
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$65, why is it so expensive?
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Well, $65 got each student about 4 hours of training from instructors that normally charge $35/hr. The NOS energy and food helped too. The price may change for the next class though. There are a lot of factors that come into play but from what I heard the sudents said they got a lot out of the class for the cost. Everyone got a day pass but we all headed out at around 6pm due to one haggard energy drink crash..
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I had a blast and look forward to the next one
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I know for a fact that flamingturd had a blast he got personal training, got the MLG shirt and won one if the raffles cases of NOS lol.
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Argh. I completely forgot about this thread, let alone the event. I would have gone had I remembered.
I hope that there'll be another one sometime soon.
Maybe this time I won't be a tard and forget.
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If you guys want to see the videos from the class and the slides that were shown, I'm going to be doing a special segment on my show tonight starting at 7:30 EST highlighting everything.
Don't miss it!
www.twitch.tv/CecilTV
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