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What should we call the "perfect" Terran army comp

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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:19:27
August 18 2011 13:53 GMT
#1
We all know and love the "perfect" Protoss army composition of Gateway/Collosus/Void Ray, which is largely known as the original "deathball"*.

Recently, I've seen tree.hugger (who writes quite a few articles here on TL) using the expression "deathcloud" to refer to the "perfect" Zerg army composition of Brood Lords/Infestors/Corruptors/Lings and/or Roaches.

(Both armies are highly immobile, of course, and this is why they are balanced to be so strong)

This leaves us with the question: what should we call the "perfect" Terran army composition of Ghost/Mech (or whatever you feel is the strongest straight up and thus most immobile of terran army compositions)???
Obs: I didn't mean for this thread to be a discussion of what the composition is, but I'm pretty sure the most viable-to-reach terran lategame army that is also the strongest in a straight up fight at the expense of mobility is a 200/200 mech army with a few ghosts vs Toss and quite a few ghosts vs Zerg. There may be more than siege tanks and thors to the composition, but you gotta agree that they are the "meat" of the army, not the ravens/vikings/whatever you may have in there.

Write you suggestion down!

Poll: What should the terran mech army be called?

GoOdYball (lol) (66)
 
44%

IMBA (lol j/k) (43)
 
29%

Deathmachine (21)
 
14%

Deathwall (12)
 
8%

Boomball (8)
 
5%

150 total votes

Your vote: What should the terran mech army be called?

(Vote): Deathwall
(Vote): Deathmachine
(Vote): GoOdYball (lol)
(Vote): Boomball
(Vote): IMBA (lol j/k)



Deathmetal is funny but Deathmetalball is strange. Maybe something close to it?

*Edit, just to be fair to oldschool BW players:
On August 18 2011 23:11 saritenite wrote:
The original "deathball" in SC was coined during the BW days, referring to Terran Mech vs Protoss at 140-200 supply and 2/2 mech upgrades.

I doubt the name will be given back though.
Bora Pain minha porra!
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
August 18 2011 13:54 GMT
#2
Mech ghost TvZ.
ClasH
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany143 Posts
August 18 2011 13:54 GMT
#3
Lets call it Goody!
Marburg
tertle
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 13:56:32
August 18 2011 13:55 GMT
#4
On August 18 2011 22:54 ClasH wrote:
Lets call it Goody!


hahaha very true

Anyway my suggestion... death machine

-edit-

death metal!
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
August 18 2011 13:57 GMT
#5
GoodyBall
untilMay
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)190 Posts
August 18 2011 14:01 GMT
#6
On August 18 2011 22:57 antilyon wrote:
GoodyBall

My vote goes for this ^_^
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emsy
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia34 Posts
August 18 2011 14:03 GMT
#7
Ghosts, tanks, turrets, scvs.
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
August 18 2011 14:05 GMT
#8
Marines.
People is diying.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#9
I call it the "clusterfuck"
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NASAmoose
Profile Joined May 2011
United States231 Posts
August 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#10
Someone look up that horrible movie "Death Race" and use one of the names of the teams in there...
Sporadic44
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
August 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#11
The concept of "perfect" is a fabricated idea of the mind. There's no such thing as perfect. Furthermore one composition thats unstoppable against one type of army, could get rolled by a different composition when put up against it.

Idk maybe I just dont like throwing the word perfect around. However, Goodyball IS a lot of fun to say. Go ahead, say it out loud.
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
August 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#12
On August 18 2011 22:57 antilyon wrote:
GoodyBall


this has ma vote!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#13
Goodyball is hilarious. xD

But man I hate those terms, they describe the part I dislike most about SC2 play right now. Hopefully they become redundant in time.
WarrickHunt
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom393 Posts
August 18 2011 14:07 GMT
#14
unbeatable seems about right
Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
August 18 2011 14:07 GMT
#15
There is no such thing. It all depends on the army you are facing. Why do people keep making theese useless, pointless, stupid threads...
Lordwar
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland243 Posts
August 18 2011 14:09 GMT
#16
perfect army composition means perfect composition in certain timing and there is almoust indefinite amount of timings so....
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 14:12:06
August 18 2011 14:11 GMT
#17
On August 18 2011 22:53 Sbrubbles wrote:
We all know and love the "perfect" Protoss army composition of Gateway/Collosus/Void Ray, which is largely known as the original "deathball".

Recently, I've seen tree.hugger (who writes quite a few articles here on TL) using the expression "deathcloud" to refer to the "perfect" Zerg army composition of Brood Lords/Infestors/Corruptors/Lings and/or Roaches.

(Both armies are highly immobile, of course, and this is why they are balanced to be so strong)

This leaves us with the question: what should we call the "perfect" Terran army composition of Ghost/Mech???

Write you suggestion down! If there are enough good suggestiongs, I'll make a poll


The original "deathball" in SC was coined during the BW days, referring to Terran Mech vs Protoss at 140-200 supply and 2/2 mech upgrades.

Hence, we shall retain "deathball" for Terran and find a new name for the Protoss "perfect" composition.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
August 18 2011 14:11 GMT
#18
On August 18 2011 22:57 antilyon wrote:
GoodyBall


This is it
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 18 2011 14:12 GMT
#19
On August 18 2011 23:07 Dariusz wrote:
There is no such thing. It all depends on the army you are facing. Why do people keep making theese useless, pointless, stupid threads...


Geez, all I'm doing is trying to discuss terminology! I read "deathcloud" recently and thought it was cool. Then I realised Terran doesn't have a specific name for their strongest and most immobile army composition (whatever it may be).

Why u so mad?
Bora Pain minha porra!
vohne
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines197 Posts
August 18 2011 14:14 GMT
#20
to the people saying there is no perfect army comp, lets just say if you were given unlimited minerals and 200/200 supply, what kind of army will you make (given you don't know what you're facing).
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 18 2011 14:14 GMT
#21
"Murder of Terran"

"Painnnnnnnnnnnnnnn"

"I'm fucked"
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 14:20:03
August 18 2011 14:16 GMT
#22
On August 18 2011 23:11 saritenite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:53 Sbrubbles wrote:
We all know and love the "perfect" Protoss army composition of Gateway/Collosus/Void Ray, which is largely known as the original "deathball".

Recently, I've seen tree.hugger (who writes quite a few articles here on TL) using the expression "deathcloud" to refer to the "perfect" Zerg army composition of Brood Lords/Infestors/Corruptors/Lings and/or Roaches.

(Both armies are highly immobile, of course, and this is why they are balanced to be so strong)

This leaves us with the question: what should we call the "perfect" Terran army composition of Ghost/Mech???

Write you suggestion down! If there are enough good suggestiongs, I'll make a poll


The original "deathball" in SC was coined during the BW days, referring to Terran Mech vs Protoss at 140-200 supply and 2/2 mech upgrades.

Hence, we shall retain "deathball" for Terran and find a new name for the Protoss "perfect" composition.


Ok, ok, you do have a point ... still, the name has been stolen and I doubt it will be given back
I added it to the OP, though
Bora Pain minha porra!
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
August 18 2011 14:20 GMT
#23
BF hellion/marauder/ghost/viking/raven/medivac
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 18 2011 14:21 GMT
#24
On August 18 2011 23:16 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 23:11 saritenite wrote:
On August 18 2011 22:53 Sbrubbles wrote:
We all know and love the "perfect" Protoss army composition of Gateway/Collosus/Void Ray, which is largely known as the original "deathball".

Recently, I've seen tree.hugger (who writes quite a few articles here on TL) using the expression "deathcloud" to refer to the "perfect" Zerg army composition of Brood Lords/Infestors/Corruptors/Lings and/or Roaches.

(Both armies are highly immobile, of course, and this is why they are balanced to be so strong)

This leaves us with the question: what should we call the "perfect" Terran army composition of Ghost/Mech???

Write you suggestion down! If there are enough good suggestiongs, I'll make a poll


The original "deathball" in SC was coined during the BW days, referring to Terran Mech vs Protoss at 140-200 supply and 2/2 mech upgrades.

Hence, we shall retain "deathball" for Terran and find a new name for the Protoss "perfect" composition.


Ok, ok, you do have a point ... still, the name has been stolen and I doubt it will be given back


Never!
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We shall find a way to do this. Goody our leader, onward Terran!
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 18 2011 14:22 GMT
#25
The perfect compositon for protoss I remember was called back in korea referred to as the "Laser protoss", referring to the voidrays and colossus lasers.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 14:23:49
August 18 2011 14:22 GMT
#26
depends? Mech has a time and a place, but other times biomech/bio is just what you want and there is no transition. I guess ghost mech would theoretically be strongest in TvZ, but then it has mobility issues. I also still think 3/3 bio with ghost is best in TvP over any sort of mech composition, and in TvT it just gets fucking weird with raven/ghost/viking/bc

TvT deathball composition is by far the most interesting and I'd name it spooky sky terran
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 18 2011 14:23 GMT
#27
On August 18 2011 23:14 vohne wrote:
to the people saying there is no perfect army comp, lets just say if you were given unlimited minerals and 200/200 supply, what kind of army will you make (given you don't know what you're facing).


Raven. MANY Ravens :D

I vote for Goodyball
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PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
August 18 2011 14:26 GMT
#28
Surely 200 supply of battle cruiser with maybe a few ravens would roll almost everything?
noemercy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States71 Posts
August 18 2011 14:27 GMT
#29
Its extremely situational, if your facing a late game zerg with no broodlords, you want no vikings, if they have them, then you obviously do want vikings.

A late game toss could have 7 collosus, or they could have no collosus, and have a ton of archons and HT's.

You cant just make a "perfect" 200/200 army and win, you have to adapt.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 18 2011 14:27 GMT
#30
On August 18 2011 23:26 PeggyHill wrote:
Surely 200 supply of battle cruiser with maybe a few ravens would roll almost everything?

mass infestor/mass voidray
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 18 2011 14:27 GMT
#31
goodyball seems best rly
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
August 18 2011 14:27 GMT
#32
50 marines and 12 ghosts.
twiitar
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany372 Posts
August 18 2011 14:28 GMT
#33
Rapeball
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
August 18 2011 14:28 GMT
#34
I don't think there exists a perfect Terran ball. The builds for T are a heck of a lot more diverse and sticking to one "paradigm", for lack of a better term, doesn't seem appropriate.
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
August 18 2011 14:30 GMT
#35
lets vote:

Poll: What should we call the "perfect" Terran army comp?

GoOdyBall (11)
 
58%

GoOdyBall (8)
 
42%

19 total votes

Your vote: What should we call the "perfect" Terran army comp?

(Vote): GoOdyBall
(Vote): GoOdyBall





jk. but i really like the GoOdy reference (even though i cant remember that he build ghosts ever)
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
August 18 2011 14:32 GMT
#36
100mules 0 scvs and just 200 food of marines.
FragRaptor
Profile Joined October 2010
United States184 Posts
August 18 2011 14:33 GMT
#37
Terran works best in a death line with a bouncing ball of marines patrolling it.

Do your thing. No matter what.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 18 2011 14:36 GMT
#38
ahh i forget in a game goody vs i think it was naniwa, naniwa had the protoss deathball and goody CRUSHED it with easy by went 2 or 3 base battlecruiser (and i mean alot battlecruiser), the caster i think it was day[9] called it : the terran DEATHSTAR
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 18 2011 14:40 GMT
#39
I didn't mean for this to be a discussion of what the ideal deathball actually is, but aside (maybe) from a 200/200 BC/Raven army (which is almost impossible to reach is a regular game), no Terran army is gonna be as strong in a straight up fight as a mech army, at the expense of mobility. A few ghosts in there against Toss and a lot vs Zerg would complete the army. You can have other stuff (vikings, ravens, etc) in there if you want, but the meat of the army will still be the siege tanks and the thors.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 18 2011 14:42 GMT
#40
On August 18 2011 23:36 CoR wrote:
ahh i forget in a game goody vs i think it was naniwa, naniwa had the protoss deathball and goody CRUSHED it with easy by went 2 or 3 base battlecruiser (and i mean alot battlecruiser), the caster i think it was day[9] called it : the terran DEATHSTAR


Ok, now we're getting somewhere!

Still, there should be a name for the mech equivalent
Bora Pain minha porra!
roflcopter420
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden168 Posts
August 18 2011 14:43 GMT
#41
On August 18 2011 23:14 vohne wrote:
to the people saying there is no perfect army comp, lets just say if you were given unlimited minerals and 200/200 supply, what kind of army will you make (given you don't know what you're facing).


Mostly marines and some hellions, since those (and SCVs) are the only units that only require minerals.
Its much the same as milking a cow
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
August 18 2011 14:47 GMT
#42
OP! lol jk, deathbioball?
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Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
August 18 2011 14:49 GMT
#43
i'm pretty sure the Terran ball is called OP.
Hambone636
Profile Joined October 2010
United States62 Posts
August 18 2011 14:52 GMT
#44
Mech play plus ghosts roflstomp anything
Ghosts > Infestor, Brood
Mech > Everything Else
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ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 15:02:34
August 18 2011 14:57 GMT
#45
Dudes! Please, I do not get the "goodyball"-joke. I am not nerdy enough. Can somebody explain it to me? :-)
beer
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
August 18 2011 15:04 GMT
#46
15 Siege tanks. 6 Thors. 10 Ghosts. 5 Ravens w/ Seeker Missle. 4 Medivacs. 8 Marauders. 20 Marines.

I play Terran. I love seeker missle but 200 gas per raven is mother fucking insanity.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
August 18 2011 15:07 GMT
#47
well bio is just known as the bio-ball, and that makes sense. I think mech play should become mechageddon.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 18 2011 15:07 GMT
#48
On August 19 2011 00:04 Techno wrote:
15 Siege tanks. 6 Thors. 10 Ghosts. 5 Ravens w/ Seeker Missle. 4 Medivacs. 8 Marauders. 20 Marines.

I play Terran. I love seeker missle but 200 gas per raven is mother fucking insanity.


Ok, but what would you call this army? Deathball and deathcloud are taken.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Brunaland
Profile Joined February 2011
Iceland36 Posts
August 18 2011 15:09 GMT
#49
On August 18 2011 23:57 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Dudes! Please, I do not get the "goodyball"-joke. I am not nerdy enough. Can somebody explain it to me? :-)


Goody makes mech almost purely going tank, siege tank and thors never goes fully bio but havent seen him for like 6 months so :D
Just wanna be better
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 18 2011 15:10 GMT
#50
Let's call the Terran comp Imball.


/jk
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 18 2011 15:11 GMT
#51
call it the "wow he sure has a lot of ghosts" ball
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 15:15:28
August 18 2011 15:11 GMT
#52
err sorry thought was discussion of the comp not actual name ><. I say ImBa-ller squad.
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 15:13:54
August 18 2011 15:11 GMT
#53
OMGWTFBBQ

MCHammer

Ballzy

Mass Effect

"The Swiss Army"

Choose one

EDIT: Imball is quite good imho
Not enough energy
ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
August 18 2011 15:13 GMT
#54
On August 19 2011 00:09 Brunaland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 23:57 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Dudes! Please, I do not get the "goodyball"-joke. I am not nerdy enough. Can somebody explain it to me? :-)


Goody makes mech almost purely going tank, siege tank and thors never goes fully bio but havent seen him for like 6 months so :D


lol

goodyball +1
beer
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
August 18 2011 15:15 GMT
#55
BC THOR TANK NUKES
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
August 18 2011 15:16 GMT
#56
Winning!

:b Maybe Trencher, or Roller (rolls on wheels, and will roll you)


Hahaa ImBall is quite good too
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 18 2011 15:17 GMT
#57
If it's a 200/200 marine ball:
"Baneling Magnet"

It's probably the slowest deathball known to man:
"Immovaball" (immovable ball)

Siege Tanks make a lot of things go "Boom":
"BoomBall"

You usually don't attack with a terran ball, you siege and slowly move the line further and further:
"Line of Death"


keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
August 18 2011 15:17 GMT
#58
Dragonforce. It's the hardest metal known to man.
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Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 18 2011 15:17 GMT
#59
I was just thinking about this the other day. It's like you have MMM and maybe some ghosts or a raven at mid game vs a Protoss for example and they have the gateway units plus maybe some temps or robo units. Then like late game that turns into Mass archons, DT harass, col's, maybe even air. However I'll still be going my MMM and trying to wear them down/harass/out macro.

Even versus Zerg now I've changed completely to mech because I can't stand how much fungal beats bio. So I'll have tank, thor, hellion, viking, and 60 roaches come in and the 10 infestors behind this HUGE WALL of meat from the roaches just fungal my viking and neural my Thors.

I'm completely lost. I still feel like BC's are worthless to get vs Zerg and Protoss. They are pointless to get in TVT because Viking counter them so hard.

NASAmoose
Profile Joined May 2011
United States231 Posts
August 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#60
On August 18 2011 23:36 CoR wrote:
ahh i forget in a game goody vs i think it was naniwa, naniwa had the protoss deathball and goody CRUSHED it with easy by went 2 or 3 base battlecruiser (and i mean alot battlecruiser), the caster i think it was day[9] called it : the terran DEATHSTAR


Haha! I haven't seen that. I love it. Replay?
<3 BC's in any non-TvT matchup
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
August 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#61
On August 19 2011 00:17 keioh wrote:
Dragonforce. It's the hardest metal known to man.


Actually it's not but I get your point. /jk/
Not enough energy
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 18 2011 15:21 GMT
#62
On August 18 2011 23:52 Hambone636 wrote:
Mech play plus ghosts roflstomp anything
Ghosts > Infestor, Brood
Mech > Everything Else


I want to respond to this post, and in a mannered way but I'm just not seeing how its possible. Roach cost efficiency of 75/25, and all that gas needed to make Ghost + Mech..

ugh... I just don't want to get into the details but I just disagree with your post / quick logic and extreme holes in your theory crafting. Starcraft just isn't ">" "<" possible.
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#63
See the problem with going BC's in this game is that by the time you have 4-5 BCs, a Terran already has 12 viking and one volley almost kills a BC, or stim marine DPS is so strong they can still beat an average sized BC army. Same with Blink Stalkers. Also I've tried BCs vs Zerg and they only win if you're ahead. Instant tech switch hurts when they can make 15 corrupts instantly.

I think the Perfect Terran army would have to be a strong combination of BCs, Thors, Hellions, Marauder. Maybe even some Ravens for PPD and ghosts+ will never hurt.

BC's are there for all around, tanking, consistent fair DPS, yamato to pick off high HP units.
Thors are there for protecting the BC's from light air, vikings, etc. Also for heavy ground like Ultras with the 250mm cannons.
Hellions are there to stop things like 100 crack lings or chargelots from trashing your thors before the BCs can do enough DPS.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
August 18 2011 15:32 GMT
#64
call it death metal ;D
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 18 2011 15:37 GMT
#65
imbalanced :b (jokes)

I have a hard time believing that the best terran army against zerg doesn't include marines @_@
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
August 18 2011 15:38 GMT
#66
On August 18 2011 23:07 Dariusz wrote:
There is no such thing. It all depends on the army you are facing. Why do people keep making theese useless, pointless, stupid threads...


For you to reply? God... thank god for the personal banhammer..
Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
August 18 2011 15:41 GMT
#67
No such thing as perfect army comp without Science Vessels
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Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
August 18 2011 15:43 GMT
#68
On August 19 2011 00:28 Nizzy wrote:
See the problem with going BC's in this game is that by the time you have 4-5 BCs, a Terran already has 12 viking and one volley almost kills a BC, or stim marine DPS is so strong they can still beat an average sized BC army. Same with Blink Stalkers. Also I've tried BCs vs Zerg and they only win if you're ahead. Instant tech switch hurts when they can make 15 corrupts instantly.

I think the Perfect Terran army would have to be a strong combination of BCs, Thors, Hellions, Marauder. Maybe even some Ravens for PPD and ghosts+ will never hurt.

BC's are there for all around, tanking, consistent fair DPS, yamato to pick off high HP units.
Thors are there for protecting the BC's from light air, vikings, etc. Also for heavy ground like Ultras with the 250mm cannons.
Hellions are there to stop things like 100 crack lings or chargelots from trashing your thors before the BCs can do enough DPS.


Vikings are not light air
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ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
August 18 2011 15:43 GMT
#69
marineball.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 15:50:06
August 18 2011 15:49 GMT
#70
On August 19 2011 00:17 Morfildur wrote:
Siege Tanks make a lot of things go "Boom":
"BoomBall"


Nice! Very descriptive
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 18 2011 15:50 GMT
#71
I think deathball is viable for all 3 races, and if any other nickname comes up for the respective races then it has to be natural. If it's forced it wont stick, especially with a thread like this with so many ideas being thrown around.

This reminds me of the SC2GG contest thing where they named groups of SC:BW units (like a suicide of scourge or something)
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 18 2011 15:51 GMT
#72
The perfect terran army already has a name.

Marines.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 18 2011 15:55 GMT
#73
I like Z deathcloud, dun care what you name P/T stuff
:)
LuisFrost
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico130 Posts
August 18 2011 15:56 GMT
#74
Yeah, it won't stick if it's forced... but my vote is on Death Metal.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
August 18 2011 15:57 GMT
#75
That's no moon....
nShade
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria296 Posts
August 18 2011 15:59 GMT
#76
Steamroll ball
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
August 18 2011 16:01 GMT
#77
On August 19 2011 00:21 Nizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 23:52 Hambone636 wrote:
Mech play plus ghosts roflstomp anything
Ghosts > Infestor, Brood
Mech > Everything Else


I want to respond to this post, and in a mannered way but I'm just not seeing how its possible. Roach cost efficiency of 75/25, and all that gas needed to make Ghost + Mech..

ugh... I just don't want to get into the details but I just disagree with your post / quick logic and extreme holes in your theory crafting. Starcraft just isn't ">" "<" possible.


Maybe, but lets say you start the game with a drop harras with BFH and set back the zerg constantly with hellions. This thus allows the Terran to get the gas needed to make a strong mech army, that and siege tanking his side of the map. ONCE he pushes out, you are pretty much screwed unless he makes position/micro mistakes.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 18 2011 16:02 GMT
#78
Death Con 5.
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SLTR.Maverick
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada142 Posts
August 18 2011 16:02 GMT
#79
All terran needs to do to win is build marines and mauraders and medivacs and 1a2a3a.

Jokes and imbalance whining aside, I think a good mix of marines, tanks, ghosts and a some vikings is a really good death army from terran. I wouldn't really call it a ball because tanks are slow and I picture death balls moving fairly quickly.
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SLTR.Maverick
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:05:22
August 18 2011 16:04 GMT
#80
On August 19 2011 00:18 Eluadyl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:17 keioh wrote:
Dragonforce. It's the hardest metal known to man.


Actually it's not but I get your point. /jk/


O.o Dragonforce isn't heavy or all that hard. If you want heavy look up Oceano or Chelsea Grin or The Acacia Strain. If you want hard metal look up Protest The Hero.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:10:36
August 18 2011 16:09 GMT
#81
I'm not sure the deathball concept exist for terran, as it's too dependant of what the opponent has, it doesn't kills everything like the protoss and zerg deathball (but it's more effective when the units are right)
I can't find a comp that wouldn't have some terrible flaws, unless I put some tanks, some vikings, some ghosts, some marines, some marauders, some hellions, a pair of ravens, perhaps some banshees...
When the end result is "make everything", not sure the deathball concept can apply.
The only deatball I can imagine is mass air (BC/vikings/banhees/ravens), but that would be a terrible deathball vs zerg. Perhaps could work vs toss.
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
August 18 2011 16:13 GMT
#82
On August 19 2011 01:09 MrCon wrote:
I'm not sure the deathball concept exist for terran, as it's too dependant of what the opponent has, it doesn't kills everything like the protoss and zerg deathball (but it's more effective when the units are right)
I can't find a comp that wouldn't have some terrible flaws, unless I put some tanks, some vikings, some ghosts, some marines, some marauders, some hellions, a pair of ravens, perhaps some banshees...
When the end result is "make everything", not sure the deathball concept can apply.
The only deatball I can imagine is mass air (BC/vikings/banhees/ravens), but that would be a terrible deathball vs zerg. Perhaps could work vs toss.



Err How is Mech/Ghost not a reasonable Build vs P/Z every game?
cpomz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States76 Posts
August 18 2011 16:13 GMT
#83
I think BC/Ghost/a few Ravens should be able to deal with anything (assuming perfect micro) EMP/Snipe to take out things that might harm the BCs and Yamato for anything else - as for name of Ghost/Mech - Death metal ftw
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 18 2011 16:17 GMT
#84
On August 18 2011 23:11 saritenite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 22:53 Sbrubbles wrote:
We all know and love the "perfect" Protoss army composition of Gateway/Collosus/Void Ray, which is largely known as the original "deathball".

Recently, I've seen tree.hugger (who writes quite a few articles here on TL) using the expression "deathcloud" to refer to the "perfect" Zerg army composition of Brood Lords/Infestors/Corruptors/Lings and/or Roaches.

(Both armies are highly immobile, of course, and this is why they are balanced to be so strong)

This leaves us with the question: what should we call the "perfect" Terran army composition of Ghost/Mech???

Write you suggestion down! If there are enough good suggestiongs, I'll make a poll


The original "deathball" in SC was coined during the BW days, referring to Terran Mech vs Protoss at 140-200 supply and 2/2 mech upgrades.

Hence, we shall retain "deathball" for Terran and find a new name for the Protoss "perfect" composition.



2/1 *Grins* but i digress
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NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
August 18 2011 16:32 GMT
#85
Terran are a race that excels at engagments in small numbers, 2 medevac full of units can destry base's, so typically we should not be naming the terran death ball, but naming the terran style of droping or engaging in small numbers.
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Cluster
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden125 Posts
August 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#86
Well this is an artificial discussion if ever there was one. I find it completely uncharming to sit down and brainstorm nicknames for things like this. Abbreviations and shorthand names for these things develop naturally as people find a need for the new words. Just start using the expressions and if they are meaningful they will catch on. Meme factories are the worst thing.
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
August 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#87
On August 19 2011 01:32 Tag wrote:
Terran are a race that excels at engagments in small numbers, 2 medevac full of units can destry base's, so typically we should not be naming the terran death ball, but naming the terran style of droping or engaging in small numbers.


IF thats the type of style they are playing, We are talking about a massive mech push later in-game that pretty much rofl stomps anything. Or have you not faced Mech/Ghost?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#88
On August 19 2011 01:04 SLTR.Maverick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:18 Eluadyl wrote:
On August 19 2011 00:17 keioh wrote:
Dragonforce. It's the hardest metal known to man.


Actually it's not but I get your point. /jk/


O.o Dragonforce isn't heavy or all that hard. If you want heavy look up Oceano or Chelsea Grin or The Acacia Strain. If you want hard metal look up Protest The Hero.


you havent been on the internet very long have you
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:46:39
August 18 2011 16:46 GMT
#89
well actually if you're talking about the strongest terran composition, it most definitely is an air based composition, simply because air units are so so so supply efficient and can fly

anyways, i say deathball for all three races, really there doesnt need to be a new name

On August 19 2011 01:40 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:04 SLTR.Maverick wrote:
On August 19 2011 00:18 Eluadyl wrote:
On August 19 2011 00:17 keioh wrote:
Dragonforce. It's the hardest metal known to man.


Actually it's not but I get your point. /jk/


O.o Dragonforce isn't heavy or all that hard. If you want heavy look up Oceano or Chelsea Grin or The Acacia Strain. If you want hard metal look up Protest The Hero.


you havent been on the internet very long have you



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SocialisT
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden160 Posts
August 18 2011 16:50 GMT
#90
The Goodyball, most certainly. I got pwned by him today on ladder :S
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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
August 18 2011 16:51 GMT
#91
200 supply of ravens can handle almost anything lol. so you can just call it death
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:54:22
August 18 2011 16:53 GMT
#92
I'm not even gonna vote, all the options sounds horrible >.>

Is it really that weird to just call it Zerg/Terran/Protoss DeathBall? It's what I've always done, and it makes perfect sense...
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 18 2011 16:55 GMT
#93
On August 19 2011 01:53 HaXXspetten wrote:
I'm not even gonna vote, all the options sounds horrible >.>

Is it really that weird to just call it Zerg/Terran/Protoss DeathBall? It's what I've always done, and it makes perfect sense...


Cause Zerg Deathcloud sounds really cool and Terran doesn't have one
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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 18 2011 16:55 GMT
#94
"Marines"
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Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
August 18 2011 16:57 GMT
#95
On August 19 2011 01:51 SpoR wrote:
200 supply of ravens can handle almost anything lol. so you can just call it death

High Templars.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 18 2011 17:02 GMT
#96
Well first we take marines, marauders, medivacs, tanks, blue flame hellions, ghosts, cloaked banshees, vikings, and a couple ravens.

Then take out all the vowels.

And voila!

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FMJ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States169 Posts
August 18 2011 17:04 GMT
#97
How about "Any"?
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
August 18 2011 18:35 GMT
#98
I'm pretty certain none of these suggestions will catch on.
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EssenceBond
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore9 Posts
August 18 2011 18:40 GMT
#99
Cattlebruisers
Voltus
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia30 Posts
August 18 2011 18:50 GMT
#100
The Pain train
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 18 2011 18:55 GMT
#101
I'd vote for "TheBest Terran army"
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taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
August 19 2011 02:58 GMT
#102
Maginot Line for tanklines
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 19 2011 03:01 GMT
#103
how is the Terran fortress not an option?
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
August 19 2011 03:02 GMT
#104
Mechball me thinks
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Ghatak
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium13 Posts
August 19 2011 03:07 GMT
#105
Boomball just sounds so funny
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
August 19 2011 03:11 GMT
#106
why not just call it an army.. or a deathball... why does it need to be different for another race. its the same exact mechanic. an extremely efficient army.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
August 19 2011 03:16 GMT
#107
Its called BioBall(LOL jk)
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iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 03:22:33
August 19 2011 03:20 GMT
#108
Since were talking terran -
Terraball?

as in:
MVP's Terraball control is just ...wow
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GreatestThreat
Profile Joined May 2010
United States631 Posts
August 19 2011 03:21 GMT
#109
Naming something after goody is stupid imo. He's not really that good.
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
August 19 2011 03:22 GMT
#110
On August 19 2011 12:21 GreatestThreat wrote:
Naming something after goody is stupid imo. He's not really that good.


Isn't he like one of the Best European terran?
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Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
August 19 2011 03:22 GMT
#111
On August 19 2011 00:07 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:04 Techno wrote:
15 Siege tanks. 6 Thors. 10 Ghosts. 5 Ravens w/ Seeker Missle. 4 Medivacs. 8 Marauders. 20 Marines.

I play Terran. I love seeker missle but 200 gas per raven is mother fucking insanity.


Ok, but what would you call this army? Deathball and deathcloud are taken.

Deathsquad.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
GreatestThreat
Profile Joined May 2010
United States631 Posts
August 19 2011 03:24 GMT
#112
On August 19 2011 12:22 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 12:21 GreatestThreat wrote:
Naming something after goody is stupid imo. He's not really that good.


Isn't he like one of the Best European terran?


I hope not because every game I've ever seen him play had like platinum level macro.
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captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
August 19 2011 03:54 GMT
#113
Heavy Metal, but I can not in good conscience not name the death metal after GoOdy.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
August 19 2011 03:54 GMT
#114
200pop of Thor, pretty much unbeatable
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Trusty
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand520 Posts
August 19 2011 03:56 GMT
#115
MMM
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
August 19 2011 03:59 GMT
#116
Metal division
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
August 19 2011 04:00 GMT
#117
We should call it...

The deathorgy.

It's a cluster fuck of dance, drugs, and dps.

(Stutter step & stim & dps noobs. l2 metaphor.)
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