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Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
August 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#441
Glad to see CoCa on SlayerS...CoCa and Min are going to give that team some good ZvX practice, hope to see SlayerS win another team league soon.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
August 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#442
On August 18 2011 05:44 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 04:57 Bezelheim wrote:
On August 18 2011 04:53 Synwave wrote:
On August 18 2011 03:40 FairForever wrote:
On August 18 2011 03:36 Synwave wrote:
Grats Coco and SlayerS!
Confused why an owner wouldnt know about a trade his coach is doing, but even more confused why he would go public without first checking with his coach, other coach etc etc...

Ive decided twitter is this massive drama creation machine and Im glad I dont have an account. How did these people do this before twitter, over the phone is my guess and it created less drama before it 'went to press.'


Making a huge assumption that the ZeNEX Coach was okay with it here.


Where was I making any assumptions his coach was ok with it?
Did you read what I wrote or did you just make assumptions of what I might have meant but didn't actually write?


If you weren't making that assumption, how could you say '..wouldnt know about a trade his coach is doing..'? No coach would make a trade without being OK with it.


If the player wants to go somewhere, how could the coach really stop him? He's not a piece of furniture he could lock in the basement. Coca wasn't even living in the team house and probably didn't have much of a financial connection to Zenex.

Coca tells the coach I want to leave, the coach can let him walk or try to make the best of the situation. Regardless of what the coach wants.

Look at Huk leaving TL. Clearly TL didn't want him leaving, but they couldn't stop him; so they worked something out and wished him the best.


Totally agree with this statement, as long as the ZeNEX coach is given the opportunity to provide the same conditions as SlayerS did for coca, and coca is not on a contract, all the power to slayers for helping a player succeed!
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
August 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#443
Kinda sucks for Min. I thought he was a promising player with some real skills. I guess SlayerS caters to terrans more than Z or P. Hopefully this move brings a little more diversity to the SlayerS team,

Alicia to up&down and most like like down to code A. So Ryung and MMA dominating.
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 17 2011 21:15 GMT
#444
SLAYERS FIGHTING
FuTon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States308 Posts
August 17 2011 21:15 GMT
#445
I'm happy for Coca and for team Slayers.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
August 17 2011 21:17 GMT
#446
On August 17 2011 21:50 mdma-_- wrote:
god korean sc2 is soo much drama...


Did you not see the drama produced by EG acquiring Huk? Lmfao

It is how the whole world goes. I'm not sure Coca was even under contract.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 17 2011 21:20 GMT
#447
On August 18 2011 06:12 dgwow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 05:44 Wuster wrote:
On August 18 2011 04:57 Bezelheim wrote:
On August 18 2011 04:53 Synwave wrote:
On August 18 2011 03:40 FairForever wrote:
On August 18 2011 03:36 Synwave wrote:
Grats Coco and SlayerS!
Confused why an owner wouldnt know about a trade his coach is doing, but even more confused why he would go public without first checking with his coach, other coach etc etc...

Ive decided twitter is this massive drama creation machine and Im glad I dont have an account. How did these people do this before twitter, over the phone is my guess and it created less drama before it 'went to press.'


Making a huge assumption that the ZeNEX Coach was okay with it here.


Where was I making any assumptions his coach was ok with it?
Did you read what I wrote or did you just make assumptions of what I might have meant but didn't actually write?


If you weren't making that assumption, how could you say '..wouldnt know about a trade his coach is doing..'? No coach would make a trade without being OK with it.


If the player wants to go somewhere, how could the coach really stop him? He's not a piece of furniture he could lock in the basement. Coca wasn't even living in the team house and probably didn't have much of a financial connection to Zenex.

Coca tells the coach I want to leave, the coach can let him walk or try to make the best of the situation. Regardless of what the coach wants.

Look at Huk leaving TL. Clearly TL didn't want him leaving, but they couldn't stop him; so they worked something out and wished him the best.


Totally agree with this statement, as long as the ZeNEX coach is given the opportunity to provide the same conditions as SlayerS did for coca, and coca is not on a contract, all the power to slayers for helping a player succeed!

I think Diamond made a post in this thread earlier stating that ZeNEX doesn't pay its players. If that's the case, and CoCa didn't even live in the team house ...

Then again, does SlayerS pay its players? I thought they didn't either.
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
August 17 2011 21:20 GMT
#448
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 17 2011 21:26 GMT
#449
On August 18 2011 06:20 Triscuit wrote:
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.


wtf? CoCa hasn't gone to MLG yet...
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
August 17 2011 21:28 GMT
#450
Too bad that there always has to be so much drama behind these things. I love SlayerS, but at the same time ZeNEX is awesome too (Byun fighting! ^^). I just want everybody to get along
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 17 2011 21:28 GMT
#451
On August 18 2011 06:20 Triscuit wrote:
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.


Do you know anything at all? CoCa is going to the NEXT MLG.

CoCa's trade was negotiated by the coach, but the coach didn't tell the owner.

This is NOTHING like EGPUMA.

God damn some people, just like to spread shit to spread shit.
secret - never again
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 17 2011 21:32 GMT
#452
On August 18 2011 06:28 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 06:20 Triscuit wrote:
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.


Do you know anything at all? CoCa is going to the NEXT MLG.

CoCa's trade was negotiated by the coach, but the coach didn't tell the owner.

This is NOTHING like EGPUMA.

God damn some people, just like to spread shit to spread shit.


My point earlier was that we're taking what Jessica said at face value. It's a double standard, why are we openly willing to trust what Jessica or Coach Lee says (TSL), but not EG.Alex or the owner of ZeNEX?
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 17 2011 21:35 GMT
#453
On August 18 2011 06:32 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 06:28 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:20 Triscuit wrote:
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.


Do you know anything at all? CoCa is going to the NEXT MLG.

CoCa's trade was negotiated by the coach, but the coach didn't tell the owner.

This is NOTHING like EGPUMA.

God damn some people, just like to spread shit to spread shit.


My point earlier was that we're taking what Jessica said at face value. It's a double standard, why are we openly willing to trust what Jessica or Coach Lee says (TSL), but not EG.Alex or the owner of ZeNEX?


It's called reputation. For someone like Jessica or FXOboss, people give them the benefit of the doubt because of their good rep. If they had bad rep from before, the community would be more skeptical to believe them.
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#454
On August 18 2011 06:35 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 06:32 FairForever wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:28 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:20 Triscuit wrote:
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.


Do you know anything at all? CoCa is going to the NEXT MLG.

CoCa's trade was negotiated by the coach, but the coach didn't tell the owner.

This is NOTHING like EGPUMA.

God damn some people, just like to spread shit to spread shit.


My point earlier was that we're taking what Jessica said at face value. It's a double standard, why are we openly willing to trust what Jessica or Coach Lee says (TSL), but not EG.Alex or the owner of ZeNEX?


It's called reputation. For someone like Jessica or FXOboss, people give them the benefit of the doubt because of their good rep. If they had bad rep from before, the community would be more skeptical to believe them.


So what has the ZeNEX owner done that tarnishes his reputation?

I think more should be attributed to the fact that people like the teams SlayerS as opposed to EG or ZeNEX.
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
August 17 2011 21:40 GMT
#455
Wasnt Jessica the one who caused a huge shitstorm over Yellow and then signing him afterward? How can anyone be on her side after the whole twitter suing debacle?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 17 2011 21:43 GMT
#456
On August 18 2011 06:39 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 06:35 anrimayu wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:32 FairForever wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:28 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:20 Triscuit wrote:
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.


Do you know anything at all? CoCa is going to the NEXT MLG.

CoCa's trade was negotiated by the coach, but the coach didn't tell the owner.

This is NOTHING like EGPUMA.

God damn some people, just like to spread shit to spread shit.


My point earlier was that we're taking what Jessica said at face value. It's a double standard, why are we openly willing to trust what Jessica or Coach Lee says (TSL), but not EG.Alex or the owner of ZeNEX?


It's called reputation. For someone like Jessica or FXOboss, people give them the benefit of the doubt because of their good rep. If they had bad rep from before, the community would be more skeptical to believe them.


So what has the ZeNEX owner done that tarnishes his reputation?

I think more should be attributed to the fact that people like the teams SlayerS as opposed to EG or ZeNEX.

He's done nothing, whereas Jessica is well-known to this community. Jessica just has better (and more positive) publicity, so people are willing to side with her more, especially given her character. On the other hand, we don't know anything about the ZeNEX owner. Not necessarily a bad thing, as it is better than having a bad rep, but at the same time, it doesn't really give us any reason to trust what he says.

Just explaining the logic here. I'm too tired of the drama to pick sides now, to be honest.
elbooN
Profile Joined January 2011
United States255 Posts
August 17 2011 21:45 GMT
#457
On August 18 2011 06:13 EricCartman wrote:
Kinda sucks for Min. I thought he was a promising player with some real skills. I guess SlayerS caters to terrans more than Z or P. Hopefully this move brings a little more diversity to the SlayerS team,

Alicia to up&down and most like like down to code A. So Ryung and MMA dominating.


Why does this suck for Min?
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
August 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#458
On August 18 2011 06:40 Cartel wrote:
Wasnt Jessica the one who caused a huge shitstorm over Yellow and then signing him afterward? How can anyone be on her side after the whole twitter suing debacle?


Yeah.. I agree with this. Zenex owner just said the transfer wasn't on good terms and just raised an issue with Slayers, and she defends using very harsh language. It was the same with the Slayers Eve situation. Eh.. I love Boxer for everything he's done, but Jessica is really ruining his and his team's reputation in my opinion.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#459
On August 18 2011 06:39 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 06:35 anrimayu wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:32 FairForever wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:28 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 18 2011 06:20 Triscuit wrote:
Let me guess, ZeNEX didn't have a contract with CoCa? :/

If not, and especially considering the shitstorm surrounding PuMa, that's just super naiive. Especially since CoCa was probably hanging out with SlayerS a LOT during MLG.


Do you know anything at all? CoCa is going to the NEXT MLG.

CoCa's trade was negotiated by the coach, but the coach didn't tell the owner.

This is NOTHING like EGPUMA.

God damn some people, just like to spread shit to spread shit.


My point earlier was that we're taking what Jessica said at face value. It's a double standard, why are we openly willing to trust what Jessica or Coach Lee says (TSL), but not EG.Alex or the owner of ZeNEX?


It's called reputation. For someone like Jessica or FXOboss, people give them the benefit of the doubt because of their good rep. If they had bad rep from before, the community would be more skeptical to believe them.


So what has the ZeNEX owner done that tarnishes his reputation?

I think more should be attributed to the fact that people like the teams SlayerS as opposed to EG or ZeNEX.


I just meant the bad rep for EG, I didn't mean that for ZeNex owner. From the sound of it by the response from Nex over at PlayXP, the situation got out of hand because the news of Coca's transfer to Slayers was released before it was even finalized. Since the owner of ZeNex was not told of this before, he had to vent his anger on twitter. It seems unprofessional, but we all know this is not the first time Korean teams acted this way.
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
ABPID
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands293 Posts
August 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#460
On August 18 2011 06:17 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 21:50 mdma-_- wrote:
god korean sc2 is soo much drama...


Did you not see the drama produced by EG acquiring Huk? Lmfao

It is how the whole world goes. I'm not sure Coca was even under contract.

Yeah, but that was drama because it's one of the most important sc2 players in the world being transferred. Nobody cares that much about Coca. This would only be comparable if Coca had won last GSL and Nazgul had just started criticizing EG on the huk matter on twitter.
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