EPTKorean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 115
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Shadico
United States32 Posts
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Equalize[R]
Ukraine40 Posts
Finding sponsorship for traveling a part of being a professional team. If you failed, then you failed. I don't see this as a reason to put expenses on tournament organizers. | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:07 jmbthirteen wrote: Bottom 8 in the grand finals. Waking up once a week at 4 am won't screw up your schedule. yes it will.. see how useful this is? And no you don't make more money by being in 16-9th place because they had to pay to get to the grand finals. | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:03 Soohard wrote: ROFL 650 dollars for round trip half way around the world? I can barely get a single plane ticket for under 400 dollars to travel across the US and im booking it in months in advanced. Most koreans that have to come to NASL have to book a week before they headout because they arent sure if they are actually in or not. I would say for a round trip flight in a short notice would be easily 1500 dollars. And we all know the insane amount of money for bag fees plus a week in a hotel room could easily cost up to 100 dollars per night. Sure they get 2000 dollars but if they convert it to korean currency about 5 percent of that will be cut. I found a flight from seoul to anaheim (with a layover in seattle of an hour) that leaves tomorrow, for $720 after taxes and fees. Ur smart. Next time, don't pull numbers out of your ass, and use google. Also normal people like to have someone travel with them who knows the language and etc. So two flights can easily be 3000 dollars. Yeeeeees, because we don't have lots of koreans that speak the language to show them around. Americans who go to korea for the GSL don't drag along a translator. NASL needs to fix this now, or just have NASL in korea, the grand finals were mostly koreans anyways. How many north Americans were actually in the grand finals? 1? 0? I understand most of them live in korea or in EU. It would be better if it was in korea just sayin Sounds like someone is nutswinging korea a little bit. Don't get me wrong, I love me some korean players, but you're just absurd. | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:01 jmbthirteen wrote: And they are still making more money by getting one of the bottom 8 spots than they do in the TL Opens. Sure they are easier money, but they still play great top foreign players and some great Korean players. All for $100 grand prize. Seriously, waking up for a 4 am match once a week isn't that bad. It's easy to make assumptions like that. But assumptions and subjective judgements like that can't really be used in an argument. If the Koreans say it's bad, then you can't really argue and say it isn't since you haven't experienced it yourself. | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:08 Shadico wrote: There is a large misconception plaguing this thread. NASL does live casting of replays. Players generally have 8 to 12 hours to submit the replay of said match. koreans are NOT BEING FORCED to play at 4am. They can play well into the morning if they so desire. Stop the ignorance. This has been stated MANY MANY times during live casts of NASL. Is that what they're starting with from season 2? Because in season 1, most games (unless there was something wrong with the first recording) were cast as the games were played. | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
Well I won't be watching NASL this season I guess... the only reason I watched some NASL last season was because of the koreans. Without them, IPL has a much better production quality for me unfortunately  | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:05 vertical101 wrote: their are really fking demanding its North AMERICA starcraft league.they should have know that they play at foreign time. they shouldnt have sign up if they cant play at american time. this koreans feels like their are a rockstar. But they are rockstars in SC2... | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:08 Shadico wrote: There is a large misconception plaguing this thread. NASL does live casting of replays. Players generally have 8 to 12 hours to submit the replay of said match. koreans are NOT BEING FORCED to play at 4am. They can play well into the morning if they so desire. Stop the ignorance. This has been stated MANY MANY times during live casts of NASL. this is wrong. NASL does live casting and broadcasts it at a later time | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:09 fraktoasters wrote: yes it will.. see how useful this is? And no you don't make more money by being in 16-9th place because they had to pay to get to the grand finals. You won't make money if you place all your chips on red and it comes up black. Gotta pay to play. Also, you're in america... It's at a bare minimum 2:15 AM for you right now. Nerds are night owls, the GSL doesn't start at the crack of dawn, and 4 AM, even if that were true (it isn't) is nothing. | ||
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havox_
Germany442 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:08 Shadico wrote: There is a large misconception plaguing this thread. NASL does live casting of replays. Players generally have 8 to 12 hours to submit the replay of said match. koreans are NOT BEING FORCED to play at 4am. They can play well into the morning if they so desire. Stop the ignorance. This has been stated MANY MANY times during live casts of NASL. Note so sure about that, but more of a question: They obviously still have to agree on a time to play with their opponents... so if the opponent is european or american who doesnt wanna play at a time that sucks for him, there was probably a default time which they had to play at, when the players were not able to agree on a time? edit: nvm... other posts already stated it, I think they were casted live, just not broadcasted live obv | ||
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:08 Shadico wrote: There is a large misconception plaguing this thread. NASL does live casting of replays. Players generally have 8 to 12 hours to submit the replay of said match. koreans are NOT BEING FORCED to play at 4am. They can play well into the morning if they so desire. Stop the ignorance. This has been stated MANY MANY times during live casts of NASL. I would personally ban you if I had the power. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:09 fraktoasters wrote: yes it will.. see how useful this is? And no you don't make more money by being in 16-9th place because they had to pay to get to the grand finals. Considering I do it on a regular basis and have a normal sleep schedule, it doesn't. My father has been waking up at 4 am for the past 25 years to go to work and has a normal sleep schedule (goes to sleep around 10pm). Doing it once a week will not screw up your schedule. You don't make money because Korean teams are broke and cant afford the roughly $650 extra from the $1000 stipend. Thats not NASL's fault. | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:11 Lobo2me wrote: Is that what they're starting with from season 2? Because in season 1, most games (unless there was something wrong with the first recording) were cast as the games were played. Yeah I have no idea where Shadico is getting his information from. NASL was not casted from replays. And they mentioned during their casts things like how Boxer had to wait hours in the middle of the night for PainUser. And Sen complained about the schedule in an interview. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:12 Honeybadger wrote: You won't make money if you place all your chips on red and it comes up black. Gotta pay to play. Also, you're in america... It's at a bare minimum 2:15 AM for you right now. Nerds are night owls, the GSL doesn't start at the crack of dawn, and 4 AM, even if that were true (it isn't) is nothing. watching people play and actually playing the game at their level are 2 different things. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:08 Shadico wrote: There is a large misconception plaguing this thread. NASL does live casting of replays. Players generally have 8 to 12 hours to submit the replay of said match. koreans are NOT BEING FORCED to play at 4am. They can play well into the morning if they so desire. Stop the ignorance. This has been stated MANY MANY times during live casts of NASL. Hahaha. Shouldn't this be worth a ban. I always try to ignore these kind of posts but this one is just plain sad. How can you state such a lie... Last season was casted live. 100% certain. It wasn't broadcasted live. | ||
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Professor12
Italy6 Posts
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LuciferSC
Canada535 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:05 IceDice wrote: Are the european and other non-US players getting their trips paid for ? No reason to give the korean players special treatment if you ask me. There's plenty of reason on NASL's part for them to do that. Koreans participating/not participating practically decides the level of the tournament. | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On August 12 2011 18:12 Honeybadger wrote: You won't make money if you place all your chips on red and it comes up black. Gotta pay to play. Also, you're in america... It's at a bare minimum 2:15 AM for you right now. Nerds are night owls, the GSL doesn't start at the crack of dawn, and 4 AM, even if that were true (it isn't) is nothing. Actually I took a nap between 8-12 so my schedule is actually pretty messed up right now. | ||
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