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On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at
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On August 10 2011 05:20 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at Oh, sorry. I forgot that the seme goes first. D'oh. My bad.
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On August 10 2011 05:21 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:20 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at Oh, sorry. I forgot that the seme goes first. D'oh. My bad. I have little talent for writing BL so I'll leave it all up to you Maybe I could do a SlayerSJessica X SlayerSEve fanfic later
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It seems like, to me anyways, this all resulted because there wasn't enough communication between all the parties involved.
I suppose this should be a lesson to any team, this really hasn't accomplished anything but stain some people's reputation, and I doubt Fruitdealer and Tester outright lied, since they'd have to know they'd get caught.
Overall, big misunderstanding leads to tons of controversy.
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On August 10 2011 05:30 VonBlucher wrote: and I doubt Fruitdealer and Tester outright lied, since they'd have to know they'd get caught.
Yea that normally does not stop people from lying. Also when you're new coach is the head of the org you need to complain to.......
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And now the truth comes out...Seriously so much drama over TSL :/. Glad to see they are now vindicated to some extent, hopefully it won't hurt the team too much.
On August 10 2011 05:30 VonBlucher wrote: It seems like, to me anyways, this all resulted because there wasn't enough communication between all the parties involved.
I suppose this should be a lesson to any team, this really hasn't accomplished anything but stain some people's reputation, and I doubt Fruitdealer and Tester outright lied, since they'd have to know they'd get caught.
Overall, big misunderstanding leads to tons of controversy.
But isn't that kind of what FD and Tester did with the whole blowing up of the situation and claiming they weren't being paid, etc etc?
also...
+ Show Spoiler +QUOTE] On August 10 2011 05:29 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:21 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:20 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at Oh, sorry. I forgot that the seme goes first. D'oh. My bad. I have little talent for writing BL so I'll leave it all up to you Maybe I could do a SlayerSJessica X SlayerSEve fanfic later [/QUOTE]
...whaaaaatttttttt?
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Blazinghand
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On August 10 2011 05:31 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:30 VonBlucher wrote: and I doubt Fruitdealer and Tester outright lied, since they'd have to know they'd get caught. Yea that normally does not stop people from lying. Also when you're new coach is the head of the org you need to complain to.......
If they lied, it's possible they hoped there would be no appeal and their lies would never be revealed; this was almost the case. Still, I'd like to see an official statement from the two of them regarding what the whole deal is, so I'm reserving judgment for now.
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On August 10 2011 05:29 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:21 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 05:20 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at Oh, sorry. I forgot that the seme goes first. D'oh. My bad. I have little talent for writing BL so I'll leave it all up to you Maybe I could do a SlayerSJessica X SlayerSEve fanfic later Challenge accepted.
I am wondering how one would tag a fanfic in which the partners switch roles, though. That said, I am convinced FD is submissive most of the time. Trickster definitely looks like the leader, FD the follower. Wouldn't be surprised if the same would hold true in bed.
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On August 10 2011 05:38 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:31 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 10 2011 05:30 VonBlucher wrote: and I doubt Fruitdealer and Tester outright lied, since they'd have to know they'd get caught. Yea that normally does not stop people from lying. Also when you're new coach is the head of the org you need to complain to....... If they lied, it's possible they hoped there would be no appeal and their lies would never be revealed; this was almost the case. Still, I'd like to see an official statement from the two of them regarding what the whole deal is, so I'm reserving judgment for now.
They were probably told "Hey you lied, created a shitstorm for TSL/Coach Lee and your new team and got caught, now if you really don't want the hammer coming down on your heads, you'll shut up from now on and don't say shit about it anymore"
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On August 10 2011 05:37 tripper688 wrote:And now the truth comes out...Seriously so much drama over TSL :/. Glad to see they are now vindicated to some extent, hopefully it won't hurt the team too much. Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:30 VonBlucher wrote: It seems like, to me anyways, this all resulted because there wasn't enough communication between all the parties involved.
I suppose this should be a lesson to any team, this really hasn't accomplished anything but stain some people's reputation, and I doubt Fruitdealer and Tester outright lied, since they'd have to know they'd get caught.
Overall, big misunderstanding leads to tons of controversy. But isn't that kind of what FD and Tester did with the whole blowing up of the situation and claiming they weren't being paid, etc etc? also... + Show Spoiler +QUOTE] On August 10 2011 05:29 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:21 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:20 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at Oh, sorry. I forgot that the seme goes first. D'oh. My bad. I have little talent for writing BL so I'll leave it all up to you Maybe I could do a SlayerSJessica X SlayerSEve fanfic later
...whaaaaatttttttt?[/QUOTE] A romantic story about a manager and a new player of a team, who was bullied by many for having special treatment. Our Heroine fights to protect her new family, the two comes closer together. And we have a romance story.
It's totally possible. Jessica being seme and Eve being uke of course.
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Something is fishy from both sides imo.
Would be bad though if all members/parties got banned so this is how it got handled. Not the best way though to handle this kind of things.
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On August 10 2011 05:42 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:29 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:21 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 05:20 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at Oh, sorry. I forgot that the seme goes first. D'oh. My bad. I have little talent for writing BL so I'll leave it all up to you Maybe I could do a SlayerSJessica X SlayerSEve fanfic later Challenge accepted. I am wondering how one would tag a fanfic in which the partners switch roles, though. That said, I am convinced FD is submissive most of the time. Trickster definitely looks like the leader, FD the follower. Wouldn't be surprised if the same would hold true in bed. good man, I look foward to it
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I regret my post in the earlier thread still think he abused puma for some thing that he shouldn't have abused him for. players shouldn't be force to stay on a team if they dont want to/have a better offer and this oh he was obligated to stay/stolen from us was bullcrap. I couldn't care less if eg whent directly to puma or not the end result would of been the same and if you don;t have a contract then what your players do is none of your business.
but I really should of atleast credited the possabilty fruitdealer and trickster were either lying or mistaken.
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On August 10 2011 05:29 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:21 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 05:20 Blasterion wrote:On August 10 2011 05:17 babylon wrote:On August 10 2011 03:37 Chargelot wrote: You know what? I just don't care anymore.
Minus 100% respect for TSL, the players, and the coach. They shouldn't be involved in any of this stupid shit. Also, I have no respect for the committee, who apparently just believes everything they're told, and shoots first then asks questions later.
Dear God, it's like this was all planned for attention. Seems like Korean E-Sports is run by a bunch of eleven year olds. This man knows where it's at. I wholeheartedly agree with him, and while there are some things that don't make sense in this entire case, I just don't fucking care anymore. I hope, as punishment, the ST coach forces Trickster and FruitDealer to put in significantly longer practice hours so we can finally see some results. Having said that ... On August 10 2011 01:21 Horse...falcon wrote: Well this is an entirely larger clusterfuck altogether. Fruitdealer, Tester, and Coach Lee are actually international criminal barons vying for control of the illegal soju market. As an alibi they became progamers/managers of SC2 teams to mislead interpol. Unfortunately their lack of practice/appearance at the teamhouse gave them away and FD/Tester attempted to give up Coach Lee to the authorities only to have it backfire on them.
Seriously though I want to see how this mess ends before the raging starts. Incoming fanfiction! With some FruitDealer x Trickster thrown in, of course. It will be epic. I'll notify you guys when it's done. Fruitdealer X Trickster is fail. So bad that it is terrible. Trickster X Fruitdealer is where it's at Oh, sorry. I forgot that the seme goes first. D'oh. My bad. I have little talent for writing BL so I'll leave it all up to you Maybe I could do a SlayerSJessica X SlayerSEve fanfic later
i would pay you for that sir
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This is enlightening news.
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A slightly off-topic comment, but its very...humbling to see people in E-sports willingly take responsibility for their actions.
Maybe, as an American, Ive just been so tired of seeing (for example) the American government never take the responsibility for their negative actions.
Reading between the lines, we can learn a lot from people like this...
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I knew he was a good person. ^^
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This whole mess needs a real journalist to recap and come to a conclusion of everything said and done.
This just leaves me with lack of trust in everyone involved.
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On August 10 2011 05:57 magicallypuzzled wrote: I couldn't care less if eg whent directly to puma or not the end result would of been the same and if you don;t have a contract then what your players do is none of your business. You do realize there's difference in culture here? In the Western world that shit flies, no question. In Korea however it does NOT!! You being from US you only understand the situation as it would be in the US.
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Wow, hard to tell what to believe in all this esports drama. I think I'll just assume that both parties are at fault in these kinds of disputes from now on... but glad this is (hopefully) resolved.
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