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ins(out)side
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
220 Posts
August 09 2011 22:30 GMT
#301
This is some crazy stuff guys. Were FD and Tester malevolently manipulating information to make Coach Lee look bad? Not really sure at this point.

I think its going to be awhile before Tester and FD speak out openly about this. It may never even happen at all.
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
August 09 2011 22:38 GMT
#302
I fucking knew it. No way Coach Lee could be that bad of a person.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
August 09 2011 22:51 GMT
#303
I don't think I said anything specifically negative about Coach Lee in the previous thread, but I definitely doubted his credibility a bit, internally. Poor guy, must've been tough to hear that much negativity when he knew he wasn't in the wrong.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
August 09 2011 22:57 GMT
#304
effing grey areas all over this shit, seems like none was in the right about all this.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 09 2011 23:08 GMT
#305
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.
twitch.tv/medrea
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
August 09 2011 23:25 GMT
#306
coach lee is the man, sad that the sc2 committee had to make him look so bad
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
Peksi
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 23:43:12
August 09 2011 23:28 GMT
#307
Happy to hear this. Watched the Hyungjoon becomes a progamer show and coach Lee always seemed like a humble and nice guy and the accusations seemed really weird. Hopefully all parties have learned a lesson from this drama and there's no bad blood remaining.
It can't be helped. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 23:42:31
August 09 2011 23:30 GMT
#308
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 4 players...... not 48.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 09 2011 23:38 GMT
#309
On August 10 2011 08:30 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 players...... not 48.


Here is each case for reference

Rain- Rain wanted a foreign team to be in. he wanted the money and fame. plus from what I've spoken to rain about. He just wasn't as happy. He wanted to travel and see the world. so being on a NA team was his bestshot at that.

Puma- Well he was approached by EG with the promise of fame and glory and money, lost of money. So of course being young and naive. He took it and left.

FD and TRickster- They were lazy and drinking a lot, didn't practice and it was not helping the team atmosphere. Lee (in a nutshell) told them to straighten up and they walked.

BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
August 09 2011 23:39 GMT
#310
On August 10 2011 08:30 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 players...... not 48.


I count 4, Rain, Tester, FD, Puma. It's quite a good chunk of their team. And those were not their "lesser" players.
Romanes eunt domus
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 23:42:21
August 09 2011 23:40 GMT
#311
On August 10 2011 08:39 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:30 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 players...... not 48.


I count 4, Rain, Tester, FD, Puma. It's quite a good chunk of their team. And those were not their "lesser" players.


My bad 4, forgot about Rain. But read the post above yours. Rain left because he didn't want to live in Korea anymore (not something TSL can help with), Puma got some $$$$$$'s thrown his way, and FD and Tester I think have showed their true colors here.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 09 2011 23:41 GMT
#312
On August 10 2011 08:38 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:30 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 players...... not 48.


Here is each case for reference

Rain- Rain wanted a foreign team to be in. he wanted the money and fame. plus from what I've spoken to rain about. He just wasn't as happy. He wanted to travel and see the world. so being on a NA team was his bestshot at that.

Puma- Well he was approached by EG with the promise of fame and glory and money, lost of money. So of course being young and naive. He took it and left.


FD and TRickster- They were lazy and drinking a lot, didn't practice and it was not helping the team atmosphere. Lee (in a nutshell) told them to straighten up and they walked.


You should try harder to make EG look bad, holy crap.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 09 2011 23:42 GMT
#313
Man, it feels good to have coach Lee exonerated. I said in a post on the other thread that I didn't believe that it was this one-sided against TSL, and it is good to see the true colors of the situation. Hopefully this will have a positive effect on TSL's search for sponsers.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 09 2011 23:43 GMT
#314
On August 10 2011 08:38 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:30 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 players...... not 48.


Here is each case for reference

Rain- Rain wanted a foreign team to be in. he wanted the money and fame. plus from what I've spoken to rain about. He just wasn't as happy. He wanted to travel and see the world. so being on a NA team was his bestshot at that.

Puma- Well he was approached by EG with the promise of fame and glory and money, lost of money. So of course being young and naive. He took it and left.

FD and TRickster- They were lazy and drinking a lot, didn't practice and it was not helping the team atmosphere. Lee (in a nutshell) told them to straighten up and they walked.


Rain left because he wanted to go to school in US, (His family is in New York)
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
August 09 2011 23:47 GMT
#315
FD and Trickster are not exactly the top tier of SC2 progamer talent anymore, it's not like losing them is some kind of big blow to TSL. Losing Puma and Rain is way worse but it's not like TSL is some nub team now.

TSL will show people they aren't weak as some think they are! Go Coach Lee!
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
August 09 2011 23:51 GMT
#316
Hmm someone is lying... I hope they find out who and punish them.

And in future they should really investigate things properly before making rash decisions. This situation makes them look like a bunch of amateurs.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 09 2011 23:54 GMT
#317
On August 10 2011 08:43 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:38 masterbreti wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:30 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 players...... not 48.


Here is each case for reference

Rain- Rain wanted a foreign team to be in. he wanted the money and fame. plus from what I've spoken to rain about. He just wasn't as happy. He wanted to travel and see the world. so being on a NA team was his bestshot at that.

Puma- Well he was approached by EG with the promise of fame and glory and money, lost of money. So of course being young and naive. He took it and left.

FD and TRickster- They were lazy and drinking a lot, didn't practice and it was not helping the team atmosphere. Lee (in a nutshell) told them to straighten up and they walked.


Rain left because he wanted to go to school in US, (His family is in New York)


Well its seeing the world if one has only lived in Korea. and also getting to travel to various tournaments and such.
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 00:05:27
August 10 2011 00:05 GMT
#318
On August 10 2011 08:54 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 08:43 Blasterion wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:38 masterbreti wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:30 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On August 10 2011 08:08 Medrea wrote:
This is all shady as fuck.

I don't buy anything Im hearing

Now we're supposed to believe TSL is a happy sunshine place when people are jumping ship left and right.


They lost 3 players...... not 48.


Here is each case for reference

Rain- Rain wanted a foreign team to be in. he wanted the money and fame. plus from what I've spoken to rain about. He just wasn't as happy. He wanted to travel and see the world. so being on a NA team was his bestshot at that.

Puma- Well he was approached by EG with the promise of fame and glory and money, lost of money. So of course being young and naive. He took it and left.

FD and TRickster- They were lazy and drinking a lot, didn't practice and it was not helping the team atmosphere. Lee (in a nutshell) told them to straighten up and they walked.


Rain left because he wanted to go to school in US, (His family is in New York)


Well its seeing the world if one has only lived in Korea. and also getting to travel to various tournaments and such.



The main reason he did it is because he father lives and works in NYC, and he wanted to be able to see him more on a regular basis. Yeah it wasn't the only reason, but to me that trumps 'seeing the world, money and fame'
Best in the world at what I do
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 10 2011 00:08 GMT
#319
The worst part is how people insulted Coach Lee in the previous thread. Calling him dirty, a shark, a bad guy, a weirdo, a thief, a con, a massive asshole, a loose cannon, a fucking slave driver, dog behaviour, a trainwreck, a scammer, a compulsive lier, a dick, a serious douche bag, a criminal,... anyway you get it.

I think there are lessons to be learned here.
o choro é livre
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
August 10 2011 00:20 GMT
#320
Wow. no wonder TSL players never win anything(other than Puma's natural ability). no respect for FD or Tester anymore
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